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Power Sword is bullshit, sure, but Veteran isn't OP it's just that the other three classes feat trees are completely haphazard and completely unfocused by comparison.
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Dec 11, 2022 19:54
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Yeah. Like. The Psycher has Duelling Swords as a unique weapon -- why? They're very fun, and I like using them, but it's pretty hard to justify taking one instead of a Force Sword, because they have no synergy at all with my class's thing!
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Dec 11, 2022 20:02
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big cummers ONLY posted:Anything is on the table because 40k is make-believe I'm gonna figure you're having a laugh with this, but I'll disagree mostly because it'd be real immersion breaking to just have like, a termagaunt or lictor just casually blasting heretics alongside the rest of the Rejects. Incredibly funny IMO, but also very wtf c'mon now fatshark. Ngl actually that sounds awesome now that I've typed it out.
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Dec 11, 2022 20:14
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Evil Kit posted:I'm gonna figure you're having a laugh with this, but I'll disagree mostly because it'd be real immersion breaking to just have like, a termagaunt or lictor just casually blasting heretics alongside the rest of the Rejects. Incredibly funny IMO, but also very wtf c'mon now fatshark. Dawn of war 2 last stand was basically that, and it was dope
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Dec 11, 2022 20:16
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Evil Kit posted:I'm gonna figure you're having a laugh with this, but I'll disagree mostly because it'd be real immersion breaking to just have like, a termagaunt or lictor just casually blasting heretics alongside the rest of the Rejects. Incredibly funny IMO, but also very wtf c'mon now fatshark. I'm half serious, I think you can do a lot of wacky stuff and it won't matter because maintaining verisimilitude is secondary in a game like this. They're putting psykers on the street unsupervised, giving rare weapons and technology to prisoners, you're raw dogging nurgle troops with no face mask and opening them up with chainswords. I just don't think trying to reconcile all the different lore poo poo is valuable in this context. That's just me though E: Also four low-power randos are killing hundreds of dudes in minutes, the list goes on
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Dec 11, 2022 20:25
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big cummers ONLY posted:I'm half serious, I think you can do a lot of wacky stuff and it won't matter because maintaining verisimilitude is secondary in a game like this. They're putting psykers on the street unsupervised, giving rare weapons and technology to prisoners, you're raw dogging nurgle troops with no face mask and opening them up with chainswords. I just don't think trying to reconcile all the different lore poo poo is valuable in this context. That's just me though I mean I partially agree but also I'd find it fairly silly to have xenos or whatever on our side. "It's make believe" can do a lot but you don't want to run entirely roughshod over the established stuff, that's why a lot of people are here, liberties or not.
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Dec 11, 2022 20:28
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It would be a bit silly but I'm just saying I wouldn't care as long as it's fun. Inquisitors can break pretty much any rule to a sufficient degree to justify weird poo poo in a video game. The real reality-warping situation would be the game being stable enough to receive content updates within the next 12 months
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Dec 11, 2022 20:33
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big cummers ONLY posted:I'm half serious, I think you can do a lot of wacky stuff and it won't matter because maintaining verisimilitude is secondary in a game like this. They're putting psykers on the street unsupervised, giving rare weapons and technology to prisoners I mean we're talking about the Inquisition, giving the good stuff to acolytes who have proven themselves to be absolute murder machines is perfectly in keeping with 40k lore, ditto psykers under a radical inquisitor. Regarding "low power randos," I don't agree with that statement at its face, we have multiple wounds (depending on difficulty at least one more than standard with the ability to stack on more) we're clearly powerful solo models.
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Dec 11, 2022 20:42
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You may be a low power rando but im built different (tzeentch put my butt on the front as a joke)
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Dec 11, 2022 20:43
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Anyone ever grab one of those random weapons for 200 mission commissary whatever points? Are they purples or something else?
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Dec 11, 2022 20:44
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ninjoatse.cx posted:Anyone ever grab one of those random weapons for 200 mission commissary whatever points? Are they purples or something else? Randomly anything, mostly greys.
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Dec 11, 2022 20:45
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S.J. posted:Randomly anything, mostly greys. gross
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Dec 11, 2022 20:45
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The game is doing everything in its power to keep me from finishing 2 missions before I have to go to work and the weeklies reset.
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Dec 11, 2022 20:57
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big cummers ONLY posted:I'm half serious, I think you can do a lot of wacky stuff and it won't matter because maintaining verisimilitude is secondary in a game like this. They're putting psykers on the street unsupervised, giving rare weapons and technology to prisoners, you're raw dogging nurgle troops with no face mask and opening them up with chainswords. I just don't think trying to reconcile all the different lore poo poo is valuable in this context. That's just me though I'm sure there's certain lines that GW isn't gonna let Fatshark cross listed out in a contract somewhere, which sucks but makes sense considering how tightfisted they are with their handing out their IPs. One can hope though.
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Dec 11, 2022 20:58
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Best part of 40k is that you can justify pretty much anything happening as "warp fuckery," "emergency Inquisitorial powers," or "galaxy-spanning bureaucratic fuckup." Imperials working with cannibal bird-lizards? "Yeah man, this planet is gonna explode in about an hour and I don't see any other capable trackers around do you?" Space-general somehow being in multiple warzones spanning across the galaxy centuries apart? "Oh there was a nasty space-storm along the way and we got there before we left our previous destination." Psi Cannons and Digital Weapons being handed off to literal convicts? "We found a huge pile of them in an ancient crate labelled 'hamdingers' buried in the sand."
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Dec 11, 2022 21:06
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S.J. posted:Power Sword is bullshit, sure, but Veteran isn't OP it's just that the other three classes feat trees are completely haphazard and completely unfocused by comparison. The best ranged class is also the best melee class rn. This isn't rocket science, a nerf to Veteran is basically inevitable. It will probably come in the form of power sword nerfs.
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Dec 11, 2022 21:18
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big cummers ONLY posted:Anything is on the table because 40k is make-believe except for games workshop being very insistent on stuff fitting with their lore
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Dec 11, 2022 21:23
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Captain Oblivious posted:The best ranged class is also the best melee class rn. This isn't rocket science, a nerf to Veteran is basically inevitable. It will probably come in the form of power sword nerfs. Yeah thats what almost everyone in the thread has been saying or asking for right?
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Dec 11, 2022 21:26
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ninjoatse.cx posted:Anyone ever grab one of those random weapons for 200 mission commissary whatever points? Are they purples or something else? Youtuber spends 3400 Melk Coins and get's trash https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROG_8xDGd0Y
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Dec 11, 2022 21:29
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juggalo baby coffin posted:except for games workshop being very insistent on stuff fitting with their lore ChickenHeart posted:Best part of 40k is that you can justify pretty much anything happening as "warp fuckery," "emergency Inquisitorial powers," or "galaxy-spanning bureaucratic fuckup."
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Dec 11, 2022 21:41
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I may as well just queue up for rank 2 missions because everyone queuing for 3 for me is lvl 4, sigh.
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Dec 11, 2022 21:41
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Zzulu posted:Veterans are crazy overpowered though and should be nerfed veterans would be fine if they were more shooty and less powerswordy having the best melee weapon in the game is really loving everything up for everyone else
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Dec 11, 2022 22:01
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Space-Kerilian is inevitable
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Vagabong posted:Space-Kerilian is inevitable lumberfoot
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:lumberfoot
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SuperKlaus posted:I believe the void strike fires a railgun Mega Man blast, whereas the fireball staff from VT2 lobbed an exploding fireball. I don't recall anyone but Arghy claiming they are literally the same, and, well, Arghy. Not to say the void strike won't face a nerf anyway IDK it's just that it doesn't appear to be a copy paste of a VT2 weapon. The voidstrike just has too much blow through as its suspiciously similar to the plasma gun so i'm guessing they just copy pasted it. In VT2 at launch the fireball had insane cleave and would go through entire hordes knocking them over with a minimum build up so you'd lob basketballs non stop slaughtering everything, then they nerfed it into the ground and it'd explode on the first target. Years later during some rebalancing they brought it back by increasing its cleave again but it'd go through half a horde then explode so it was amazing but they nerfed it in a couple of weeks. The fireball staff was always supposed to be similar to the bolter where it did single target damage and exploded/staggered in a radius around it. Seeing as it currently trivializes the other staffs by doing their job without any downsides its going to get nerfed into the ground likely becoming a weak long ranged explosion. The pysker has an identity issue because you can't really modify head pop which is apparently the classes entire focus. They need to make the staves modify head pop and put the unique attacks on its light attack while right click is head pop with the stave. I think the problem is the pysker needs enemy pyskers so until we get chaos sorcerers and rogue pyskers the class will feel very listless. Being able to have pyshic duels with a powerful mini control boss that either distract it or outright kill it will be amazing.
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withoutclass posted:I may as well just queue up for rank 2 missions because everyone queuing for 3 for me is lvl 4, sigh. Hop in the Goon Discord linked in the OP, there's loads of fun to be had there with players who don't suck! (Except for me)
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marshmallow creep posted:I have a 510 Kantrael Mk XII and it felt very underwhelming against anything I wanted it for on Heresy today. Few pages back but the Mk XII has carried our Damnation group so hard that our Preacher is running it too now. Check the damage in the testing ground and make sure you're 1 shotting all the basic mobs (except bucketheads) and getting 2-3 shot kills on all the specials. I have a ton of different XII's and a damage stat in the mid 60's for a Vet seems to get there. Also, watch out that the Sniper perk (more damage the farther you are) seems to be permanently on in the testing ground! Not sure if that's true for the game proper (the reverse was true for the T6 talents around highlighting and refreshing on launch). Ellipson fucked around with this message at 23:00 on Dec 11, 2022 |
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the mark 12 is so good that i can’t imagine going back to any other lasgun
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Kith posted:veterans would be fine if they were more shooty and less powerswordy just give the power sword to zealot and both veterans and zealots are great classes
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Dec 11, 2022 23:04
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ZombyDog posted:Youtuber spends 3400 Melk Coins and get's trash I spent some, because there's nothing else to use them on right now, and the regular store wouldn't give me a VId for days. Got a purple one with good stats. Of course, then they started showing up in the store and I soon replaced it.
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Mr. Fish posted:Hop in the Goon Discord linked in the OP, there's loads of fun to be had there with players who don't suck! (Except for me) Well then there'd be two of us 
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I just play with the bad people and sometimes I get surprised. We cleared a Malice High-Intensity with everyone at level 9-12 and it's not like we were great players. Me as ogryn and another ogryn were okay but the zealot was rushing ahead and getting downed alone while the psyker checked every nook and cranny for grimoires which we absolutely did not want to do. I couldn't believe we cleared it. One of us made a mistake and ate poo poo on nearly every fight
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Re: psyker with guns - I appreciate that they present it as an option, but in practice it waters down the loot pools and keeps me from getting the good psyker toys in the store and as mission rewards. I struggle to get a force staff above 330 raw, and meanwhile the game keeps throwing near perfect guns at me. I got a level 510 orange autogun and a 465 purple accatran on my psyker that I'll probably never use because it's not mind bullets or fire/lightning. I think they're is a world where the guns can be a thing on psyker later down the line. If they do a divination subclass and pull inspiration from the Dark Heresy tabletop games, Diviners had a number of gun-wizard powers based around impossible trick shots, literally "skip a bullet off a coin and ricochet it into the enemies eye" type stuff.
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Dec 11, 2022 23:22
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Never again.  If I knew how much bullshit I'd have to go through to get this I never would have started
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Dec 11, 2022 23:30
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ninjoatse.cx posted:Never again. How many missions do you figure you had to actually complete to get that 25?
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ninjoatse.cx posted:Never again. Now do it 2 more times and you can afford one of the items from Melk's!
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litany of gulps posted:How many missions do you figure you had to actually complete to get that 25? 39~41. I was counting, but I may have miscounted. I stopped using quick join and then they all counted towards the commission. Sometimes when you join a specific mission it starts you in the middle, but those still counted, so I figure that was it.
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Evil Kit posted:I'm gonna figure you're having a laugh with this, but I'll disagree mostly because it'd be real immersion breaking to just have like, a termagaunt or lictor just casually blasting heretics alongside the rest of the Rejects. Incredibly funny IMO, but also very wtf c'mon now fatshark. One of the very first 40k novels was about an inquisitor who's retinue included a female assasin that could turn into a genestealer, for some reason I can't remember
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