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That was an incredible ending. Definitely a way darker turn than I expected, the show does a good job keeping away from stereotypes about the kinds of organized crime that Sicily is notorious for, showing us that even outside of more stereotypical mafia members there are still plenty of shady people willing to do shady things, or at least get them done .Moltke posted:Don't even need Portia for Greg to be hosed. She is most likely fine now as long as she just goes home - there are at least 4 other witnesses (moustache gay, the gay who jumped overboard, the gay captain, jack) and the police are already on the case. Portia can disappear and Greg would 100% be found out regardless. plus there will be phone records connecting the conspiring queens, Greg and them were probably checking in with each other and since the dead guys probably didn't plan on getting dead they may not have erased all the evidence before they set off Tumble fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Dec 12, 2022 |
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PostNouveau posted:Oh god, it was so funny Tanya came out blasting totally willy nilly eyes closed most of the time and opens her eyes and she's clipped 3 out of 4 of them I am utterly devastated by Tanya's death specifically because of how she was interrogating Quentin as he was trying to claw his dying rear end up the couch. "Is Greg having an affair? Is he?!?" God drat was Coolidge great, that was loving hilarious.
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Toe Rag posted:Isn’t it implied the guys who jump overboard died? More than one body was in the water, and the ones who were shot died on the yacht. Anyway Greg is a side note. What happens to him doesn’t really matter. I could see Cameron and Daphne in Maldives being season 3. Gotta rewatch but not necessarily. We see one body floating, that body is pulled out, and then Rocco says "actually there are bodies." So they found the yacht, not more floaters. The mafia probably will have questions for the swimmers though.
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apophenium posted:Feeling the exact same way. I feel like for shows like these the writers can get away with a lot by leaving it up to the audience to decide: did Harper actually gently caress Cameron? what about Ethan and Daphne? I mean even Greg's involvement in Quentin's plot isn't explicit. Or even if there was a plot. Sometimes it feels like a copout though. I think all of this is pretty clear, the answers to your two questions are yes and yes. And there was definitely a plot, Jack basically spells that out, plus there is no other reason to bring a gun, rope and duct tape to a boat. I personally liked that the murder mystery had much more of a satisfying climax, but I also felt the stories were a bit more disjointed than in season 1. The swinger stuff seemed especially siloed, with the exception of the one night with Lucia and Mia. Starks fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Dec 12, 2022 |
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Dec 12, 2022 06:17
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covidstomper58 posted:The White Lotus Season 2: Prostitutes are thieves and murderers. Alternate title: The White Lotus Season 2: Johns are idiots Homos like to get wasted and have sex with their employees and/or family members
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The ending was ok but it didn't feel as punchy as season 1 did. Having Tanya figure out the plot, fight back and win and then die due to her own clumsiness and bad luck felt like Mike White was having his cake and eating it too. You get Tanya's tragicomic death while also giving her a triumphant moment.... it just doesn't sit as well with me. But, as a visceral thrilling sequence, it sure as hell worked. Everything with Tanya and Portia in the last two episodes was exceedingly tense, and especially for Portia this episode, I was on the edge of my seat hoping she was going to get out of it. In comparison the other plots felt a little lacking, but mostly resonated with season 1's themes of 'everything turns to normal for rich people.' Ethan and Harper regain a spark in their relationship possibly at the cost of a little bit of their humanity, and I absolutely loved how baffled they were watching Cameron and Daphne plop down in front of them as if nothing at all has happened. The Di Grasso plotline, however, mostly seemed to spin its wheels most of the time. I was honestly a little disappointed with Michael Imperioli's character, I recognize the character is pretty flat if not outright depressed throughout the season, but there was really no movement here. Bert also mostly stays stationary, but F Murray Abraham can't help but be charismatic and funny as hell, he really was a joy to watch most of the time. Love the punchline of Albie and Portia exchanging numbers. That was hilarious. Felt a little dissatisfied with Valentina's storyline, I was expecting perhaps one more scene from her perspective. Heartwarming to see her open herself up though. She's not really the substitute for Armand this season, however. Armand is a lead character and his downward spiral is one of the main storylines, Valentina's is definitely a secondary plot. It did feel like there was something left to be said there, though. Happy to see Mia and Lucia on top. That was satisfying enough! Will absolutely be there for season 3. Will be interesting to see who the connecting character would be (if there is one) for the next season.
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Maybe it's just because I like the actor's gravitas, but I'd love to see Bert as the connecting character. Old dude wants to vacation on his own and awkwardly tries to get some sex tourism in without his son and grandson present could be a funny bit in a third season.
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PostNouveau posted:Oh god, it was so funny Tanya came out blasting totally willy nilly eyes closed most of the time and opens her eyes and she's clipped 3 out of 4 of them I guess those morons crowded near the door because they underestimated her. It does not take a genius to use a gun but drat it was a shock, in their defense. I thought the choice to film Tanya confusedly shooting the gun, and nothing else during the action, was interesting and actually effective. and oh man did that fall against the boat look real. poo poo CG would have wrecked that moment
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PostNouveau posted:Oh god, it was so funny Tanya came out blasting totally willy nilly eyes closed most of the time and opens her eyes and she's clipped 3 out of 4 of them Lmao agreed.
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Greg "winning" is not a given imo, but that's something for the lawyers to headache over!
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It'll be Albie and Portia on vacation season 3
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withak posted:Daphne loving nailed the scene with Ethan on the beach. Her smile fading before "I don't think you have anything to worry about," Yeah that was really good Overall I'm just happy that Mia and Lucia got the good ending
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tanya's ending was perfect agree the di stefano family storyline wasn't very interesting (except as a vehicle for mia and lucia, ftw) but i liked how albie ultimately became an enabler for his dad.
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Conrad_Birdie posted:Absolutely incredible acting by Meghann Fahy there. Really underrated performance this whole season. at the end of the season, the only people in the show I'd want to hang out with are the douchey bougie couple lmao They owned so hard, in the end.
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Dec 12, 2022 09:17
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Am I crazy or were we meant to assume that Lucia and Mia are lovers in the end
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Crazy, no. Didn't pay enough attention. yes.
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Great finale, drat. Overall I think it might have been even better than season one. Although despite the entire cast bring fantastic I don't think anyone shined quite as bright as Murray Bartlett.
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The only thing I thought was corny was the mafia gigolo having a black bag full of duct tape, rope and a gun. It's like the most cliche "murder kit" imaginable and he would have not only needed none of those things, but they would have made it an obvious murder when he could have just pushed her off the boat and made it plausible as an accident.
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precision posted:Am I crazy or were we meant to assume that Lucia and Mia are lovers in the end
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TychoCelchuuu posted:...? No? Mia is very explicitly not looking to get involved romantically with women - she had an entire conversation about this. Lucia has given no indication of being into women. And even if they were both gay, there's nothing to indicate they're together except that they were walking around together and being friendly with each other, which they've done this entire season and which is perfectly normal behavior for two very good friends. I just thought that it was possible that Mia was playing the director, and the reason she talked about her and Lucia knowing lesbian bars was because they were together Otherwise it makes her and the director basically the only honest relationship in the whole season, which... is probably intentional, but I don't know what it says
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Mameluke posted:I want Lucia and Mia to get out scot-free, preferably on a moped, after $cammin' everyone in that damned hotel yeesss
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Mameluke posted:yeesss hell yeah!!!
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Man a lot of the Tanya stuff was kind of mean though, right? Like first making her SO oblivious that she doesn’t realise until the call (that scene with her and Hollander talking about the photo where she swallows all his bs is pure Flanderisation), then “Is Greg having an affair????”, and then that cruel death. It felt far far more contemptuous than anything else in the show thus far. I also didn’t really feel like the Ethan/Harper ending was earned in any way like it actively comes out of nowhere for me and doesn’t seem at all to be a direct result of the events we have seen. And, a more minor gripe, I really wish Portia had had more to do this finale, just felt like White couldn’t think of anything besides her being stuck in that car, which just wasn’t that interesting to me. However, literally every moment I haven’t mentioned already was fantastic. Despite me not liking how some of these storylines ended up it was still overall a very good Dudes Rock season that more than measures up to the first. Perfect final shot.
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Escobarbarian posted:Man a lot of the Tanya stuff was kind of mean though, right? Like first making her SO oblivious that she doesn’t realise until the call (that scene with her and Hollander talking about the photo where she swallows all his bs is pure Flanderisation), then “Is Greg having an affair????”, and then that cruel death. It felt far far more contemptuous than anything else in the show thus far.
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Maybe it was a little mean but Tanya was not exactly a saint. She viewed non-rich people as NPCs and treated them as disposable nuisances.
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Me, watching the finale: God I’m so worried for Tanya. She’s so helpless. Tanya: 
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Tanya's storyline turned into a Coen Brothers story, especially in the finale.
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I do find it interesting that the “real” central mystery of this season ended up being where tf was Valentina hiding all that rear end, drat
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I enjoyed this season more than season 1, and I'm glad they shifted the emphasis from the setting and the staff to the guests. You are not going to be able to recreate that chaotic energy that Armond had, and so much of the running time is spent with the guests, that the show is better when they are the focus. Connie Britton's family in season 1 was such a bore, and we had to spend so much time with them just to get the Paula part. This season I enjoyed all of the guests' story lines.
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The end of Tanya's story at least made the time we've spent with her feel purposeful. It was funny and her on the boat was the best thing this episode. The harper Ethan Cameron story fizzled out 4 episode ago for me and nothing really changed here - but Daphne remained cool. I thought her routine about not being a victim to Ethan was less convincing for it's repetition and we see she just does things to get even, but it is interesting to think Cameron and Daphne have a relationship based on a constantly calibrated and compensated set of lies that balances out to them appearing to enjoy each other a lot. This season was a more relaxing hangout but the trade off was it was a bit boring and not as funny. Enjoyed it overall.
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veni veni veni posted:The only thing I thought was corny was the mafia gigolo having a black bag full of duct tape, rope and a gun. It's like the most cliche "murder kit" imaginable and he would have not only needed none of those things, but they would have made it an obvious murder when he could have just pushed her off the boat and made it plausible as an accident. Up until exactly that point I was still questioning if Tanya and Portia were correct about what's going on. It all clicks into place very quickly all of a sudden with Jack saying Portia should just leave and not ask any questions because these people are dangerous and this dude having a murder kit on him. Right up to then I was hoping it was going to swerve into comedy and Tanya, like, forcing them to run the boat aground at gunpoint when she was never actually in any danger. That guy is the worst hitman. He comes armed to their first meeting and gets found out by the most oblivious woman in the world and is just like "Yeah, well I'm in the mafia". If he'd tied her up at any point, then his accidental drowning victim would have ligature marks.
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Broadlybrowsing posted:I was entertained for however many weeks I followed this show, but I feel like it had less to say than season 1. Will eagerly look forward to Season 3. As far as having less to say, the big messages I got from this season: Most men are pigs, and the ones that aren't are really boring. Women can find ways to live with this, at least, or, at best, to use it to their advantage.
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TychoCelchuuu posted:Agreed, especially about Tanya, the best part of the show. I do appreciate that she's basically John Wick though. That was pretty funny. Hahaha yeah the crying and shooting shot was loving amazing Bulky Bartokomous posted:Maybe it was a little mean but Tanya was not exactly a saint. She viewed non-rich people as NPCs and treated them as disposable nuisances. Definitely, but she’s also one of the less actively lovely guests in either season, and it feels harsh for her of all people to get this treatment.
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Wasn't totally satisfied by the Ethan/Harper ending. What, Ethan maybe gets a blowjob or roll in the sand with Daphne and now he's no longer a porn addict who can't be intimate with his wife? Like, post episode, Mr. White says that maybe what they needed in their relationship was just a little bit of what Cameron/Daphne have, and that meanwhile Cameron/Daphne probably can't keep living like that al the time. That makes sense as a prescription but I still don't see why Ethan would actually be more functional now.Bulky Bartokomous posted:White Lotus Season 2:The Working Class Strikes Back. Kind of surprised Jack, Portia and the sex workers all got happy endings, or at least didn’t get totally left holding the bag for rich people loving things up. That whole hit was such a shoddy operation. Jack blabs drunkenly and leaves Portia alone with his phone when she was clearly very suspicious (although Jack played his part as well as you could expect Jack to). But Quentin is literally leaving photos of Tanya's husband sitting out and openly talking about his straight cowboy love. And after Tanya gets Portia's call and is clearly running around the boat in panic, they leave a gun sitting out!! Come on, gays! If Quentin had just put that photo away Tanya might never have gotten suspicious enough to do anything even with Portia's call. Tanya is very stupid and asked a dying man if the husband who set up a murder plot on her was having an affair PostNouveau posted:Oh god, it was so funny Tanya came out blasting totally willy nilly eyes closed most of the time and opens her eyes and she's clipped 3 out of 4 of them withak posted:Apparently Sabrina Impacciatore improvised the "Peppa Pig" line. parthenocarpy posted:It'll be Albie and Portia on vacation season 3 Fast Luck fucked around with this message at 15:27 on Dec 12, 2022 |
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Yeah there was definitely a point where I thought the show was going to swerve into “Tanya and Portia are dangerously misreading this situation, their lives aren’t actually in danger” and Tanya was going to kill everyone on the boat anyway. That could have had a fun, ironic tone to it, but once the bag was open with the rope and duct tape, that was definitely not gonna happen. I bought, however, that the would-be-killers were clumsy and not very good. I don’t think Quentin and his crew has ever killed anyone before and I have my doubts that Niccolo was even mob connected, or if he was, it was at a very low level. These were amateurs playing at a dangerous game out of desperation.
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If the plan was really to kill Tayna all along why go through that whole elaborate party, taking her to the opera and getting the mafia guy to have sex with her? Wouldn't they have just killed her the second they got her away from the hotel?
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mcmagic posted:If the plan was really to kill Tayna all along why go through that whole elaborate party, taking her to the opera and getting the mafia guy to have sex with her? Wouldn't they have just killed her the second they got her away from the hotel? Character errors (Possibly intentional by the film makers)
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precision posted:I just thought that it was possible that Mia was playing the director, and the reason she talked about her and Lucia knowing lesbian bars was because they were together ?? Mia was 100% playing Valentina, because at the end of the show she's the new in-house piano player. Not that she didn't have fun with her in the process, but the only reason she started flirting was because she wanted to be a musician.
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