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ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


Cash Crops: Dutch Use Bitcoin Mining To Grow Tulips

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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
people who believe in bitcoin are stupid

people who believe that NFTs have resale value are real stupid

koshmar
Oct 22, 2009

i'm not here

this isn't happening

If you have enough solar power available to run the miners wouldn't it be more efficient to run heaters with that power? I feel like they're glossing over a lot of the important minor details here.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



koshmar posted:

If you have enough solar power available to run the miners wouldn't it be more efficient to run heaters with that power? I feel like they're glossing over a lot of the important minor details here.
Run a useful appliance and you help them for a day. Run a btc miner and you help me forever

Bip Roberts
Mar 29, 2005

koshmar posted:

If you have enough solar power available to run the miners wouldn't it be more efficient to run heaters with that power? I feel like they're glossing over a lot of the important minor details here.

the mining rigs are heaters

Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010

Expensive ones that are less efficient than heat pumps

buglord
Jul 31, 2010

Cheating at a raffle? I sentence you to 1 year in jail! No! Two years! Three! Four! Five years! Ah! Ah! Ah! Ah!

Buglord
Is tether ever gonna die or is that gonna stay around for as long as crypto is?

ultrafilter
Aug 23, 2007

It's okay if you have any questions.


buglord posted:

Is tether ever gonna die or is that gonna stay around for as long as crypto is?

Yes. Crypto can't survive without Tether at this point so when it goes everything goes with it.

CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

OneEightHundred posted:

"Your defense attorney will be extremely unhappy if you give an interview about something that you're under investigation for" has been a recurring theme of his for a while.

A few geniuses from the past 6 years were doing it a lot, like Avenatti.
By far the best instance of this was when the defense attorney for Jerry Sandusky, the football coach that ran a charity helping kids so he could get more kids around him, and then molested those kids, was giving an interview to sports guy Bob Costas. Then the attorney says "Hey, do you want to interview Sandusky? He's right here" and at first Costas was speechless, then yes he started interviewing Sandusky.

That guy was not a good attorney. And now Sandusky is behind bars.

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

buglord posted:

Is tether ever gonna die or is that gonna stay around for as long as crypto is?

Tether is a good measurement of exactly how much money has been permanently stolen.

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
🐓🐓🐓✊🪧

https://twitter.com/web3isgreat/status/1602104903576555523?s=20&t=WdkVr8gfOdnIXGzSOUEgMw

Oscar Wild
Apr 11, 2006

It's good to be a G

drk posted:

hmm, tell me more about 'i did crimes'



I've seen this on a porn set. Oh and with those two actors.

more falafel please
Feb 26, 2005

forums poster

kw0134 posted:

Wow, no way, you mean to tell me the "smart contract" was coded by idiots on a platform that fundamentally cannot do what was promised???

I'll be honest I actually thought this part was real. Like wasn't that the entire sales pitch of smart contracts, you sell a thing but every time it's sold you automatically get a cut? Wouldn't that be possible with the ethereum virtual machine?

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish

more falafel please posted:

I'll be honest I actually thought this part was real. Like wasn't that the entire sales pitch of smart contracts, you sell a thing but every time it's sold you automatically get a cut? Wouldn't that be possible with the ethereum virtual machine?

well, that excerpt seems to be saying that they were doing that, but having to give a percent to the person who made the thing was eating in on the trader's profits, so the sites that facilitate trading are removing the royalties part

because nothing ever actually uses the blockchain

acidx
Sep 24, 2019

right clicking is stealing
so not really a smart contract. just some smart general guidelines.

Rotten Red Rod
Mar 5, 2002


And once again, that's literally a thing Second Life has been doing for well over a decade

notwithoutmyanus
Mar 17, 2009

LifeSunDeath posted:

people who believe in bitcoin are stupid

people who believe that NFTs have resale value are real stupid

Most hostility I ever got was from an NFT believer. Dude hates me forever after that, which makes good entertainment.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

I got this message request on Discord and all day long I've been glancing at it and chuckling

Dr. Video Games 0031
Jul 17, 2004

imagine paying someone else to do your homework for you when chatgpt exists now

The Sausages
Sep 30, 2012

What do you want to do? Who do you want to be?
I think it's more like

quote:

imagine paying someone else to get chatgpt to do your homework for you

Trollipop
Apr 10, 2007

hippin and hoppin
Bitcoin is cool because you can buy drugs on the internet with it, which makes sense as a seller because you don't have to risk using a payment processor that could hold your funds for doing illegal poo poo, and allows you to sell more product by being faster than say, Western Union. Makes sense as a buyer because there's less risk in getting scammed in a way that's worse than just getting burned (not receiving product), like your credit card info being stolen or your identity or banking info. You can even use bitcoin to buy postage labels for flat rate or weighted first class USPS packages. This is a cool and good way of buying drugs on the internet and I hope in the end there is at least one crypto exchange left where honest dealers can sell their bitcoin for fiat and honest users can buy bitcoin with fiat.

This is basically the only cool and practical thing that Bitcoin has ever done. Why would anyone use it to buy anything else let alone buy it to have it sit in a wallet?

Why do bitcoin bros say there's only ever going to be 21 million bitcoin as if it means anything, when you can have bitcoin down to something like 8 decimal places?

How does anyone fall for these crypto company ponzis?

Ups_rail
Dec 8, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Trollipop posted:

Bitcoin is cool because you can buy drugs on the internet with it, which makes sense as a seller because you don't have to risk using a payment processor that could hold your funds for doing illegal poo poo, and allows you to sell more product by being faster than say, Western Union. Makes sense as a buyer because there's less risk in getting scammed in a way that's worse than just getting burned (not receiving product), like your credit card info being stolen or your identity or banking info. You can even use bitcoin to buy postage labels for flat rate or weighted first class USPS packages. This is a cool and good way of buying drugs on the internet and I hope in the end there is at least one crypto exchange left where honest dealers can sell their bitcoin for fiat and honest users can buy bitcoin with fiat.

This is basically the only cool and practical thing that Bitcoin has ever done. Why would anyone use it to buy anything else let alone buy it to have it sit in a wallet?

Why do bitcoin bros say there's only ever going to be 21 million bitcoin as if it means anything, when you can have bitcoin down to something like 8 decimal places?

How does anyone fall for these crypto company ponzis?

dont drug dealers use cash app and venmo now?

Double Bill
Jan 29, 2006

Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:

imagine paying someone else to do your homework for you when chatgpt exists now

As long as ChatGPT is unable to produce a reference list the cheating possibilities are pretty limited. Unless you ask it to generate some nonsense list and hope no one actually checks it.

Also it sucks at math.

Trollipop
Apr 10, 2007

hippin and hoppin

Ups_rail posted:

dont drug dealers use cash app and venmo now?

Maybe for IRL stuff but AFAIK buying drugs on the internet is a bitcoin thing

Scratch Monkey
Oct 25, 2010

👰Proč bychom se netěšili🥰když nám Pán Bůh🙌🏻zdraví dá💪?

Double Bill posted:

Unless you ask it to generate some nonsense list and hope no one actually checks it.

I used to do that when I was in high school to fulfill that “have at least X references” requirement. No one ever checked, but this was way before the internet

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Scratch Monkey posted:

I used to do that when I was in high school to fulfill that “have at least X references” requirement. No one ever checked, but this was way before the internet

In my immediately post-undergrad days I used to put real people as references (professors, mostly, because again right out of undergrad) but break the phone numbers by switching two digits enough. Googleable if they wanted to make sure they were real people, but like gently caress I wanted some dipshit post-graduation retail/food/coffee job bothering people I actually might want for a real rec some day.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Trollipop posted:

Bitcoin is cool because you can buy drugs on the internet with it, which makes sense as a seller because you don't have to risk using a payment processor that could hold your funds for doing illegal poo poo, and allows you to sell more product by being faster than say, Western Union. Makes sense as a buyer because there's less risk in getting scammed in a way that's worse than just getting burned (not receiving product), like your credit card info being stolen or your identity or banking info. You can even use bitcoin to buy postage labels for flat rate or weighted first class USPS packages. This is a cool and good way of buying drugs on the internet and I hope in the end there is at least one crypto exchange left where honest dealers can sell their bitcoin for fiat and honest users can buy bitcoin with fiat.
https://www.google.com/search?q=%22prosecution+futures%22

Aramis
Sep 22, 2009



The only reason Bitcoin was useful for drugs is that nobody understood it and/or gave a poo poo about it. Who in their right mind would ever consider a system with unprecedented guarantees of records preservation and accuracy a good candidate for this?

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

You still have to turn the coins of butts into money you can spend as 13+ years there are few places where you can actually spend it like a currency. And since all the exchanges basically are either narcing on you or going to get "hacked" and make your drug money away from you, it's poo poo for that purpose too.

repiv
Aug 13, 2009

Aramis posted:

The only reason Bitcoin was useful for drugs is that nobody understood it and/or gave a poo poo about it. Who in their right mind would ever consider a system with unprecedented guarantees of records preservation and accuracy a good candidate for this?

as i understand it the darknets have mostly moved away from bitcoin long ago for exactly that reason, and now prefer crimecoins like monero which are much harder to audit

monero is fundamentally incompatible with KYC/AML so unlike bitcoin/ethereum it can't even pretend to have legitimate use cases

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

Cyrano4747 posted:

In my immediately post-undergrad days I used to put real people as references (professors, mostly, because again right out of undergrad) but break the phone numbers by switching two digits enough. Googleable if they wanted to make sure they were real people, but like gently caress I wanted some dipshit post-graduation retail/food/coffee job bothering people I actually might want for a real rec some day.

references in the sense of the sources for your paper, the idea being if chatGPT wrote your essay for you you'll at a minimum need to bullshit some references/sources for it

Aramis
Sep 22, 2009



repiv posted:

as i understand it the darknets have mostly moved away from bitcoin long ago for exactly that reason, and now prefer crimecoins like monero which are much harder to audit

monero is fundamentally incompatible with KYC/AML so unlike bitcoin/ethereum it can't even pretend to have legitimate use cases

To be fair, Bitcoin was also meant to eschew any and all political interference, including regulations. It just failed to do so. The only reason it's compatible with the system is that it's a rough proof of concept that should have evolved substantially before gaining too much traction. Oops.

Aramis fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Dec 12, 2022

kw0134
Apr 19, 2003

I buy feet pics🍆

buttcoin is a technological answer to a sociological problem, namely what if i can't trust anyone at all. this is a "problem" that is usually solved by either jailing everyone involved because they're sociopathic criminals or curing the underlying psychological problems the individual has with trust.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Aramis posted:

The only reason Bitcoin was useful for drugs is that nobody understood it and/or gave a poo poo about it. Who in their right mind would ever consider a system with unprecedented guarantees of records preservation and accuracy a good candidate for this?
I was reading about the big CSA bust a few years ago, it might have been linked in this thread even. There was a consierable amount of cathartic schadenfreude when the author said they were able to catch and prosecute a considerable amount of abusers specifically because the darknet sites used bitcoin to buy access. A lot of them just used their personal credit card to buy bitcoin then immediately spent it on the sites, making it dead easy to trace each transaction.

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos

Aramis posted:

To be fair, Bitcoin was also meant to eschew any and all political interference, including regulations. It just failed to do so. The only reason it's compatible with the system is that it's a rough proof of concept that should have evolved substantially before gaining too much traction. Oops.
Was Bitcoin meant to do anything? The whitepapers trying to find a point to it and the hunt for Satoshi all seemed kind of post hoc. It otherwise feels like a nerd toy out of the 'check out my Linux war station' boom of the 2000s.

Aramis
Sep 22, 2009



zedprime posted:

Was Bitcoin meant to do anything? The whitepapers trying to find a point to it and the hunt for Satoshi all seemed kind of post hoc. It otherwise feels like a nerd toy out of the 'check out my Linux war station' boom of the 2000s.

It does have value in the sense that it's a counterexample to the idea that distributed trustless consensus is axiomatically impossible. Not sure if that's what it was meant to be, but that's the most charitable interpretation I can come up with.

Extra Large Marge
Jan 21, 2004

Fun Shoe

zedprime posted:

Was Bitcoin meant to do anything? The whitepapers trying to find a point to it and the hunt for Satoshi all seemed kind of post hoc. It otherwise feels like a nerd toy out of the 'check out my Linux war station' boom of the 2000s.

I believe they were trying to replace banks and all types of 3rd party transaction companies (Visa, Mastercard, Western Union, etc...).

Boxturret
Oct 3, 2013

Don't ask me about Sonic the Hedgehog diaper fetish
a modest goal

HelleSpud
Apr 1, 2010

Collateral Damage posted:

I was reading about the big CSA bust a few years ago, it might have been linked in this thread even. There was a consierable amount of cathartic schadenfreude when the author said they were able to catch and prosecute a considerable amount of abusers specifically because the darknet sites used bitcoin to buy access. A lot of them just used their personal credit card to buy bitcoin then immediately spent it on the sites, making it dead easy to trace each transaction.

Here's one from this year:
https://www.wired.com/story/tracers-in-the-dark-welcome-to-video-crypto-anonymity-myth/ Wired - Inside the Bitcoin Bust That Took Down the Web’s Biggest Child Abuse Site - Andy Greenberg

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Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.
Bitcoin went from a thing to buy very illegal poo poo to be a thing you still buy illegal poo poo with but also get scammed out of your real money with "investments".

Bitcoin is actually pretty cool.

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