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Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

Data Graham posted:

It’s like how there was a time when “nerd” was frequently spelled “nurd”

That was a 50s thing wasn’t it?

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EoRaptor
Sep 13, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

The joke here is someone bought two new pizza trays just to make this picture possible.

Capt.Whorebags
Jan 10, 2005

an actual frog posted:

:swoon: Acorn kit always feels so rare and under-represented online, given the ARM heritage and all.

The first network system I ever used was the Acorn Econet setup at my primary school. It had a server with a coprocessor, Winchester disk (30mb I think) and the dot matrix printer had a 32k buffer unit attached.

Great memories about ADFS.

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012





That tiny CRT monitor next to the stereo system is cool.

skyelevator
Apr 12, 2020

History Comes Inside! posted:

I always wanted one of those Mac Pro cases to put an actual pc in

If you are in the UK I've got one you can have.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

c0burn posted:

I can't remember the model but they're all rebadged Philips CM something or other.

Philips CM8500s I think. There were also Daewoo built 1084s, usually got the suffix of D1 or D2

https://gona.mactar.hu/Commodore/monitor/Commodore_monitors_by_model_number.html

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



Is that JerryRigEverything?

tight aspirations
Jul 13, 2009

thathonkey posted:

can anyone explain why frag is spelled with two g's? ive never seen that before, except in this pic... this is some mandela effect type of poo poo

Maybe it's a nod to the double gg in Strogg? Also, that's a really bizarre depiction of Hwaorang.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Maybe the worst pizzas I've ever seen with my monitor on

Mr.Radar
Nov 5, 2005

You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.
Cathode Ray Dude stumbled on an amazing tech relic of the Y2K era which makes no sense in hindsight but which almost made sense at the time:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KT_-1TOyifc

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Maybe the worst pizzas I've ever seen with my monitor on

We have SUCH sights to show you

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
I enjoy CRD's content.

However.

That's an hour and 24 minutes. His most recent videos are all averaging over an hour. I'm not saying he needs to Tik Tok YouTube Shorts himself into absurd little chunks of low-quality videos but... am I the only one thinking he could use an outside editor?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
It would probably be good for him to turn each of these videos into a series, but maybe that's just not feasible.

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

Trabant posted:

I enjoy CRD's content.

However.

That's an hour and 24 minutes. His most recent videos are all averaging over an hour. I'm not saying he needs to Tik Tok YouTube Shorts himself into absurd little chunks of low-quality videos but... am I the only one thinking he could use an outside editor?

Bud a decent amount of us dropped cash to get at his recent video about his Cali trip that had a runtime of four and a half hours. Hard no on that editor.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Warbird posted:

Bud a decent amount of us dropped cash to get at his recent video about his Cali trip that had a runtime of four and a half hours. Hard no on that editor.

Sure, but you're a different kind of audience. I'm guessing that's a Patreon exclusive or something like it, and that's completely different.

What I'm talking about is the general, algorithm-driven audience or even those who actually subscribe. Sure, I'd like to learn about that weird MP3 thing, but that's a freaking commitment to a video about a stupid* device. I'd imagine CRD and his team know what they want, but (comparable?) Techmoan and Technology Connections videos very rarely crack 40 minutes. Doubling that seems like an unnecessary barrier for new viewers.

* presumably, because RIAA is involved.

Cojawfee posted:

It would probably be good for him to turn each of these videos into a series, but maybe that's just not feasible.

Agreed. And a series would probably result in fewer views per video, which wouldn't help the channel.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
I'm watching the video now, and I don't think he could split this up. It's basically a documentary about the device. No one being served videos by the youtube algorithm is going to click a video about entering track titles into a device they've never heard of. Each part of the video needs the rest of the video to make sense.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
And it’s got not one but two “oh my god Gravis that is so stupid/amazing” reveals in the last half that are worth the wait. But yeah you really couldn’t split this up, and I personally really like that YouTube means I get videos like this that are a deep dive and don’t have to worry about the length like if they were on broadcast TV or something. Nerd poo poo like this is WHY I pay way too much money for YouTube premium.

e: conversely there’s a pretty good break about 45 minutes in when he switches to the second device if you want to watch more later. It wouldn’t be a good place to break it into two separate videos, but it is a good place to pause your own watch for awhile.

Arivia has a new favorite as of 07:33 on Dec 13, 2022

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011
Also Gravis does actually do YouTube Shorts irregularly of stuff that’s only got 2 minutes or less of content. The most recent one is about a phone that’s two handsets in one.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




As the only Good YouTuber, CRD’s videos should be as long and as frequent as they want. The longer and more frequent the better.

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




While i got to admit i didn't watch it to the end, i treat tech youtube stuff like evening filling things that i'd watch on TV if this were the early 2000s.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Gimme all the long-rear end videos. You can pause it and come back if you like, but I love long-form content on youtube

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




The only other YouTube poo poo I watch is Tim Rogers’ 6 hour long naval gazing video game deconstructions, long videos remain supreme.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

I like Defunctland as well - 90 minutes investigating who actually wrote the four-note musical theme Disney channel uses in their channel idents? Absolutely, even if Disney channel wasn't even available here when I was young and I have zero nostalgia around it. Ditto his deep deep dive into Fastpass (even if I've never been in the same country as a Disney park).

Most of their stuff hits that sweet spot of being so incredibly niche and detailed that it's interesting even when I don't have a personal connection to the topic, really.

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".

Jim Silly-Balls posted:

Gimme all the long-rear end videos. You can pause it and come back if you like, but I love long-form content on youtube

Hard agree

Pause that poo poo and pick it up later, but don’t give YouTube’s terrible coding and algorithm the chance to show me part 4 after I just finished part 1.

It happens so much and it’s so annoying. It’s to the point where I have little respect for people who think FAANG devs are really good. Yeah, the guys that wrote the code to show me an ad in a language I don’t speak are actually the best of the best. LOL

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day
y'all ever heard of documentaries? You'd probably like em.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

LifeSunDeath posted:

y'all ever heard of documentaries? You'd probably like em.

yeah they make them on youtube now

wa27
Jan 15, 2007

Youtube should bring back the 10:59 time limit.

Wizard of the Deep
Sep 25, 2005

Another productive workday
That was a good and compelling/informative CRD video. What a strange device that makes sense in the extremely strange context of the turn of the millennium.

Working with an editor earlier in the process, I can imagine a world where that was logically broken into two or three pieces. But having an editor with an eye towards smaller chunks might fundamentally change the nature of the documentaries themselves, and I don't know if that would be a good thing :shrug: CRD (and LGR, TechMoan, DnakPods, et cetera) all have a unique, strong voice that certainly feels like it's a direct function of the small size of their production team(s).

longview
Dec 25, 2006

heh.
For me a YouTube video less than 20 minutes or is 1) probably too short for me to go to the effort of changing context from "browse" to "watch" for, and 2) for technical content it's probably nowhere near detailed enough to cover the subject beyond a surface level.

First of May
May 1, 2017
🎵 Bring your favorite lady, or at least your favorite lay! 🎵


Some of my favorite Techmoan videos are the ones where he methodically opens and tests hundreds of discarded Japanese minidisc players.

VictualSquid
Feb 29, 2012

Gently enveloping the target with indiscriminate love.
I got into youtube during the old days when unlocking long videos and monetization was easy, but in-video ads didn't exist. Which meant that anybody making videos in the 5-15 minute range was doing so in order to increase ad payout.
Just like the people doing "shorts" now.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



First of May posted:

Some of my favorite Techmoan videos are the ones where he methodically opens and tests hundreds of discarded Japanese minidisc players.

Me watching another 20 minute Techmoan cassette player review with the same lovely mechanism as the others: hmm, but what if this is the one deck that's actually good?

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

EL BROMANCE posted:

Me watching another 20 minute Techmoan cassette player review with the same lovely mechanism as the others: hmm, but what if this is the one deck that's actually good?

He found that one recently!

HKR
Jan 13, 2006

there is no universe where duke nukem would not be a trans ally



Cojawfee posted:

It would probably be good for him to turn each of these videos into a series, but maybe that's just not feasible.

It really isn't.

If you look at a lot of youtube series, especially from smaller creators, you notice a trend where the views start going down drastically as the series progresses. Contrary to popular belief, uploading short videos frequently is not inherently "better" than uploading a long video every now and then, especially when it comes to ad revenue, as you gain revenue from youtube premium subscribers based on minutes watched. Subscribers also seem to love the longer videos, as every time someone brings up the length issue many others chime in to say they prefer it.

Youtube's history feature is actually pretty well built; pausing the video on one device, walking away, and pulling it up on another an hour later will let you pick up from where you left off. Chapters also give you decent spots to stop at and pick up later.

In regards to outside editors and shorter videos, we've been trying to make a 15 minute video for over a year now and failing hard, because everything we've covered on the channel has just been a rabbit hole. Gravis likes to explain things "whole cloth," in fact this script was much longer when we initially tried to shoot it two weeks ago. The hour and a half video is the result of a rewrite. All that being said we're hoping to shoot a short one before the holiday.

With Youtube shorts, we're doing them again after stopping last year, as youtube fixed how shorts are presented to users (which caused a lot of backlash last year). A trend we've noticed with shorts is they tend to cast a much wider net and get a lot of views from people who are outside of the core audience. This is both a blessing and a curse, as new users tend to stick around and watch older content (yay!) but also leave some of the worst comments I've ever read on a public forum (I tend to do my best to prune bad comments, like people threatening to hang us for having a BLM sticker visible in older videos).

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



Arivia posted:

He found that one recently!

Ha of course I never actually had chance to finish that one! I need to go back it seems. (The portable one yeah? I really didn't like the design of that, it felt like a 'my first CAD' project but I'm glad its existence is a good thing!)

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

EL BROMANCE posted:

Ha of course I never actually had chance to finish that one! I need to go back it seems. (The portable one yeah? I really didn't like the design of that, it felt like a 'my first CAD' project but I'm glad its existence is a good thing!)

Yep, it’s got some flaws but he considers it fit for purpose and a worthwhile buy.

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Long videos that are mostly narration (like CRD, Technology Connections, etc.) pair very well with the speed control in the Youtube player. Most people talk slowly enough that they're perfectly understandable at double speed. :sanix:

Just be warned: for the first few minutes after watching something at 2x, normal-speed speech will sound so drat slow.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Whaaaaateeeeveerrrr aaaarrreee yooouuu taaaalkiiiinnng aaaboooouuuuttt?

GutBomb
Jun 15, 2005

Dude?
Some other editor chopping up CRD's videos would ruin them. I like them BECAUSE he's verbose. His words about the topic are the point for me.

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Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Yeah, the minutae of weird old electronics is precisely the reason I watch his videos. Cutting that down would make them a lot less interesting, IMO

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