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Tarnop posted:Brutal Brits is over 6 already and I've just snuck another director onto the team so I'm happy to let Wheatley go Cheers!
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married but discreet posted:The true horror is perhaps having to watch all that anime The true horror is having to format that many anime teams onto a spreadsheet.
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I think everything is updated. Nominations lock 12 noon EST Dec 14th, so roughly 36 hours from now. After that no more noms can be added or changed. I will put a vote together ASAP. Unless I'm wrong all byes are in except for two. That would be our only delay besides just my time. But if all goes well we'll start voting the 14th. It doesn't hurt to doublecheck the spreadsheet just to make sure your noms are there and correct. Its a lot of stuff, edits are made to posts, some stuff might get lost in the mix. Now is the time to check before we start voting. married but discreet Basebf555: Roy Ward Baker Samfucius: The REC Dudes (Jaume Balagueró and Paco Plaza) twernt: Lewton Bus (Jacques Tourneur, Robert Wise, and Mark Robson) Scumfuck Princess: TaBOO! (Clive Barker, Carlos Atanes, J-P Valkeapää, Harry Kümel, and Jörg Buttgereit) MacheteZombie: Kôji Shiraishi Kangra Tarnop: Horror Noire (William Crain, Paul Maslansky, Cliff Roquemore, Ernest R. Dickerson, Rusty Cundieff, J.D. Dillard, Nia DaCosta, Mariama Diallo, and Jordan Peele) Berzerker: The Enemies of Horror (Aaron Moorehead & Justin Benson, Amy Seimetz, and Brea Grant) Servoret: Red Dusk (Konstantin Lopushansky and Piotr Szulkin) HalloweeNIT: Sumptuously Stupid (Michael Rymer, David S. Goyer, Tarsem Singh, Steve Beck, Fran Rubel Kuzui, Sylvain White, and Jan de Bont) Kangra posted:Puberty Sucks - Vampire movies with adolescence as a theme, aka teen vampire movies that aren't Twilight. We watched Final Exam. The rest of the team is clear.
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Dec 13, 2022 05:57
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Oh right, I forgot. I'm adding John Lee Hancock's Mr. Harringtons Phone to my Stephen King team to replace the sex pest.
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Dec 13, 2022 06:15
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Oh, losing Final Exam actually makes that team stronger thematically. And (unrelated, I was just waiting to vet at least one film before adding it to the team) to give the team another thematically strong movie, I'm adding Aaron Lee Lopez to Puberty Sucks Aaron Lee Lopez Teenage Vampire Teenage Vampire 2 I really hope Lopez improved as a director after the first film and that the sequel is not terrible. Giving my auto-bid to Lady Thrillers as well.
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I think this is my last team. Its basically made up of some leftovers I had from prior noms or abandoned team plans. A bunch of them felt like they kind of naturally worked together so I decided that's the natural end for me. Other ideas but none of them feel strong enough to be worth clogging up the noms with. So one last time... I think... Goat Gets Grimey (The Soska Sisters, Fede Alvarez, and Alexandra Aja) Soska Sisters American Mary See No Evil 2 Dead Hooker in a Trunk On the Edge Fede Alvarez Don't Breathe Alejandre Aja The Hills Have Eyes Oxygen High Tension Piranha 3D Mirrors Horns Technically that’s 11 films with 1 I could shed but (a) I’m not sure On The Edge is actually released and I’m just including it should it become available next year, (b) I’m not sure Aja is a big enough name to need to be nommed solo, and (c) its the end of the draft and I’ve pieced together a team that feels like it is a team to me to get closure so hopefully no one minds.
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Dec 13, 2022 07:10
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STAC Goat posted:Around the World With Bracketology I hate to do it again, but I believe I have Moloch on my Dutch team. Also, I would like to nominate René Cardona as a solo director if he hasn't been nominated yet.
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Dec 13, 2022 16:17
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I’m trying to do a team of Nightmare on Elm Street sequel directors that haven’t been nominated yet but first two are rather prolific and interesting in their own right so I will nominate them individually first- Jack Sholder Alone in the Dark A Nightmare on Elm Street 2 The Hidden Natural Selection Wishmaster 2 Supernova (this is a Alan Smithee situation in which Sholder took over so not sure the ruling on that) Arachnid 12 Days of Terror Renny Harlin Prison A Nightmare on Elm Street 4 Deep Blue Sea Mindhunters Exorcist: The Beginning The Covenant Devil’s Pass And I’ll team up the last two directors in Freddy’s Nightmares (Stephen Hopkins, Rachel Talalay) Stephen Hopkins Dangerous Game A Nightmare on Elm Street 5 Predator 2 The Reaping Rachel Talalay Freddy’s Dead Ghost in the Machine (93) A Babysitters Guide to Monster Hunting And with that you now have the ability to make sure every remaining Freddy film is in this tournament!
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twernt posted:I hate to do it again, but I believe I have Moloch on my Dutch team. So you do. Whoopsie.
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Dec 13, 2022 21:47
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STAC Goat posted:It doesn't hurt to doublecheck the spreadsheet just to make sure your noms are there and correct. Its a lot of stuff, edits are made to posts, some stuff might get lost in the mix. Now is the time to check before we start voting. All my stuff looks correct
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Dec 14, 2022 02:24
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Squeaking in there, I'd like to nominate Yoshihiro Nishimura Tokyo Gore Police Vampire Girl vs. Frankenstein Girl Mutant Girls Squad Helldriver Meatball Machine Kodoku The Profane Exhibit Holy Mother Welcome to Japan Zombie TV
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Dec 14, 2022 05:30
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And one more, loosely based on Scandinavia in general and Denmark specifically: Dansk Buds Eskil Vogt The Innocents Lars Von Trier Antichrist Epidemic Johannes Nyholm Koko-Di Koko-Da Jonas Alexander Arnby When Animals Dream Ali Abbasi Shelley
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It was suggested to me by marriedbutdiscreet that to be fair we should give a bye to everyone who has submitted a nomination. I have decided (late) that that's a good idea. I'm slow to change. So that means the Council is dead and everyone gets a bye. For the couple of council members who didn't make nominations its cool, your byes still count. For Servoret who earned a bye by completing the HalloweeNIT you get TWO byes. By my count this is the list. If you made a nomination and you're not on the list let me know. married but discreet: Abstain Basebf555: Roy Ward Baker Samfucius: The REC Dudes (Jaume Balagueró and Paco Plaza) twernt: Lewton Bus (Jacques Tourneur, Robert Wise, and Mark Robson) REDACTED: TaBOO! (Clive Barker, Carlos Atanes, J-P Valkeapää, Harry Kümel, and Jörg Buttgereit) MacheteZombie: Kôji Shiraishi Kangra: Lady Thrillers (Georges Franju, Robert Altman, Bryan Forbes, Matt Cimber, John Grissmer, and Irvin Kershner) Tarnop: Horror Noire (William Crain, Paul Maslansky, Cliff Roquemore, Ernest R. Dickerson, Rusty Cundieff, J.D. Dillard, Nia DaCosta, Mariama Diallo, and Jordan Peele) Berzerker: The Enemies of Horror (Aaron Moorehead & Justin Benson, Amy Seimetz, and Brea Grant) Servoret: Red Dusk (Konstantin Lopushansky and Piotr Szulkin) HalloweeNIT: Sumptuously Stupid (Michael Rymer, David S. Goyer, Tarsem Singh, Steve Beck, Fran Rubel Kuzui, Sylvain White, and Jan de Bont) deety: Darthemed: WeaponX: Servoret: Moomin Dreams: Class3KillStorm: Sorry for the late notice on this. It might cause a slight delay to the voting. I'll be PMing everyone to let them know. Also, Scumfuck Princess has asked to be withdrawn from the tourney for their own reasons. I respect that and just want everyone to enjoy themselves. I'm keeping their bye intact but removing Family Friendly and Silent but Deadly. Since its so late in the nomination process the only fair thing seems to be to just remove those teams entirely and make them invalid for nomination. That way there's no one just being lucky enough to add a big director to their team because they happen to have been around. We can watch A Nightmare Before Christmas any time. It sucks but I respect everyone's level of engagement. mbd has also chosen to abstain from their bye. Since there's probably gonna be a bit of a wait to get everyone's byes in they have time to change their mind if they wish.
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deety posted:A couple of things I was hoping to use for this one weren't available, but thankfully that didn't drop me below 6 (assuming I didn't miss something).
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deety posted:Finally had time to finish up a team of 80s horror by female directors. This gets my bye 
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I just had a second look at that 80's Ladies list, we watched Celia in the last tournament. I loved it! But it's not eligible.
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Moomin Dreams and I live in China and have to VPN into the thread and her VPN isn't working right now, so I'm relaying this message on her behalf: If the 80s Ladies team is eligible or made eligible it still gets her bye, but if for some crazy reason it doesn't she'll move her bye to her own team as a backup. VPNs are fickle here, we may relay messages like this for each other once in a while.
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Dec 14, 2022 11:46
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I’ll use my bye on my 100% Found Footage team.
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Dec 14, 2022 12:33
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Wow, two byes! I’ll use my other bye on my Classic One-offs team.
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Samfucius posted:I just had a second look at that 80's Ladies list, we watched Celia in the last tournament. I loved it! But it's not eligible. Someone pointed that out upthread and I got Celia swapped out for the technically-released-in-1990 Slumber Party Massacre 3. Since a few of my teams got picked for byes, I'm going to use mine on this one: Servoret posted:Nifty Fifties
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Thanks, deety!
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Noms are done. Just waiting a bit on the last bye. I’m a little busy anyway so there’s no actually extra delay there. I’ll try and the get the vote together by tonight and hopefully we get the last pick in. Worst case we can start the vote and just make the bye retroactively. But we’ll see. Right now I’m the one holding it up but I’ll get to the computer later.
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Dec 14, 2022 21:29
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I use my straggler bye vote on the Steve's Monster Blockbusters team that Basebf555 put together.
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Dec 14, 2022 21:49
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Heyyyyy alright! A few popcorn blockbusters never hurt anybody!
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That’s all the byes so now there’s no one to whisper about delaying this except me. Tonight. Promise.
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Basebf555 posted:Heyyyyy alright! A few popcorn blockbusters never hurt anybody! It probably woulda been fine in the actual voting, but I couldn't say no to a team that had Jaws and Jurassic Park and Duel on it.
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OK! Nominations are set. Notable tournament veterans not nominated? William Castle, Brian Yuzna, Don Coscarelli, Ken Russell, Paul Verhoven, David Lynch, and David Cronenberg off the top of my head. Although most of them were kind of fringe horror cases or had exhausted their pools. Yuzna and Coscarelli surprise me a bit. And I thought Cronenberg would get a bump from his new film. There’s always next year. Here are the 16 automatic seeds who will make up the top 4 seeds of the tourney. Basebf555: Roy Ward Baker Samfucius: The REC Dudes (Jaume Balagueró and Paco Plaza) twernt: Lewton Bus (Jacques Tourneur, Robert Wise, and Mark Robson) REDACTED: TaBOO! (Clive Barker, Carlos Atanes, J-P Valkeapää, Harry Kümel, and Jörg Buttgereit) MacheteZombie: Kôji Shiraishi Kangra: Lady Thrillers (Georges Franju, Robert Altman, Bryan Forbes, Matt Cimber, John Grissmer, and Irvin Kershner) Tarnop: Horror Noire (William Crain, Paul Maslansky, Cliff Roquemore, Ernest R. Dickerson, Rusty Cundieff, J.D. Dillard, Nia DaCosta, Mariama Diallo, and Jordan Peele) Berzerker: The Enemies of Horror (Aaron Moorehead & Justin Benson, Amy Seimetz, and Brea Grant) Servoret: Red Dusk (Konstantin Lopushansky and Piotr Szulkin) HalloweeNIT: Sumptuously Stupid (Michael Rymer, David S. Goyer, Tarsem Singh, Steve Beck, Fran Rubel Kuzui, Sylvain White, and Jan de Bont) deety: Nifty Fifties (Gene Fowler Jr., Christian Nyby, John Parker, Don Siegel, Mervyn LeRoy, and Irvin S. Yeaworth, Jr.) Darthemed: At The Movies (Vernon Zimmerman, Mark Herrier, Anders Jacobsson, Shinichiro Ueda, Adam Brooks & Matthew Kennedy, and Todd Strauss-Schulson) WeaponX: 100% Found Footage (Oren Peli, Bobcat Goldthwait, Joseph and Vanessa Winter, Josh Trank, Scott Glosserman, Stephen Cognetti, and Levan Gabriadze) Servoret: Classic One-offs (Maurice Tourneur, Charles Crichton, Basil Dearden, Robert Hamer, Alberto Cavalcanti, Rouben Mamoulian, Victor Fleming, Albert Lewin, Thorold Dickenson, Robert Siodmak, Carl Th. Dreyer) Moomin Dreams: 80s Ladies (Amy Holden Jones, Deborah Brock, Carol Frank, Jackie Kong, and Sally Mattison) Class3KillStorm: Steve's Monster Blockbusters (Steven Spielberg and Stephen Sommers) I have broken up the remaining nominees into 4 pools. Veteran, Rookie, Solo, and Team. Every nominee is in 2 pools. By my count last night its a total of 142, up slightly from last year’s 138. 91 teams to 51 solo. 56 vets to 89 rookies. 31 team vets to 26 solo vets. 62 rookie teams to 26 rookie solos. What the odds are here I don’t know. There’s obviously more teams in the mix than solos and more rookies than vets. Since they’ll each be in 2 pools it shouldn’t shift the odds too much towards the smaller pools, but it does seem to create a bit of a handicap. Is that a good thing? More offbeat and new directors entering the mix? Or a bad thing? More hard work people put into teams being left behind? I don’t know. We’ll see. My first thoughts are I probably should have beefed up the “veteran” numbers by counting any team with a tournament veteran instead of just teams with 50% of their pool being veterans. But I didn’t want to try and make that change this late and from a quick look I don’t think it affects the numbers all that significantly. Just something to remember for next year. For this year we just will see what happens. Worst case a bunch of weird solo directors get into the first round. You will be able to vote for up to 20 nominees in each pool. So each nominee could get 2 votes per ballot, or you could split your votes up, vote strategically, whatever. My hope is that this both makes it easier to sort through the long list of names and also makes for a more dynamic spread of votes and nominees. And hopefully doesn’t just make a big ole log jam or worse, a shortage of picks if it turns out everyone just votes for the same basic pool. We’ll see. I panicked early last year and it worked out fine so I’m gonna do my best not to this year. I did a once through on the vote. Seemed to work well for me. I think its easier to make out. Easier to pick and choose. I’m cautiously optimistic. Vote! You can vote or change your vote until 12 noon EST Dec 26th I think that’s all in order. Its me so I probably screwed up somewhere. But hopefully not. Have fun voting and tell your friends!
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Voted, but I wanted to vote for everything. Might go back and change votes from big directors to small guys because that's the part of the tournament I like best.
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Voted! I’m not even sure I voted for my own nominations. Too many good choices.
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Voting now. I noticed that Knockoffs of the Living Dead is on the veterans list twice. E: On the teams list too. Servoret fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Dec 15, 2022 |
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Servoret posted:Voting now. I noticed that Knockoffs of the Living Dead is on the veterans list twice. poo poo gently caress, I'm an idiot. I deleted the extra entry (in both pools). I'll discount votes that go for it. Anyone who has already voted can go back and make sure they used their votes. I'm sorry. I told everyone to double check so of course it was mine that was screwed up.
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For what its worth: Someone commenting in their ballot that the voting pools should be sorted alphabetically. I get that. In the name of transparency I'll tell you I have it set to shuffle randomly. Why? Because I feel like that takes away any potential unfairness that may come from the order. Like maybe you're more likely to vote for the ones early on? Or more likely to miss the ones in the middle? Or more likely to notice at the end or tune out? The random shuffle means its all random so I'm not putting my thumb on the scale in any way, intentionally or not.
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I like that. I noticed that I tended to be choosier at the beginning and more free with votes by the end. I tried to go back and even it out, but having a random order makes the bias less impactful than, say, having the letters o through w get an easier pass.
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Coming next year: Aaaaah it's Predation
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Kangra posted:This is a team that at one point was more about reacting to horrific events in war. When I first came up with it last year I wanted Zulawski, and also had Come and See on it. Elem Klimov's been kicked off, as I've since considered that film to be not fitting to the theme (not to mention its highly unethical moviemaking practices). Now, it's more about the effects of war but also telling creepy horror stories with very little actual combat (Guard Post, being an 'additional' film, is a slight exception). These are practically all ghost stories of some sort or another, with emphasis more on the horror as manifestations of the effects of war as opposed to presenting war as the horror itself. I can't really think of a good team name, though. Somehow, despite my checking the spreadsheet twice, and thinking everything was okay, this team was left off. All my other teams are complete and okay, although I'm going to go back and look one more time because I missed this mistake.
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Kangra posted:Somehow, despite my checking the spreadsheet twice, and thinking everything was okay, this team was left off. All my other teams are complete and okay, although I'm going to go back and look one more time because I missed this mistake. I'm very sorry. I've added it. I dunno if it will get the votes and I'm sorry for that. I don't know what happened. I just screwed up. I would offer to start the vote over but I don't actually think it would change anything. I'd be telling everyone to go back and vote again. But they can already go back and vote again. So I dunno. I removed my double team and added yours. Hopefully it works out. I'm gonna switch a vote from mine to yours to help. Even if I desperately don't want to watch that team. edit: This method also seems to work because the extra Knockoffs of the Living Dead team had 2 votes before and now it has 1 after I edited my ballot. So if the other person changes theirs it should disappear. If not I'll just discard that vote. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Dec 15, 2022 |
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Thanks for fixing that, Goat! I think there's plenty of time for voting (or re-visiting votes) so it's fine it got caught early enough on.
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STAC Goat posted:- The last change I’m considering is a restructuring to our schedule. We’d still be doing the giant tournament but I had a thought that it might be more fun and less of a slog if we broke the tournament into 5 conference tournaments. Basically we’d spend 6-7 weeks doing 1st-3rd rounds of Conference A and you’d see a bunch of directors/teams 2 or 3 times in 6-7 weeks. Then we’d do Conference B. Take a Spring Break. Do C and D. And then finish off with the Elite Eight/Sweet Sixteen. I think this would create bit more momentum and buzz around specific teams/directors and matchups, give people starting and stopping points… I don’t know. Anyone have any thoughts? I missed this before, I love this idea.
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