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JT Smiley posted:That just sounds like really bad writing? It works in context, but it’s also the payoff to a bunch of writers not knowing what to do with him for literal decades so they just gave him a bunch of random poo poo in hopes they’d basically build a character like he’s a collection of spare parts. Remember, Guy is literally the lantern whose girlfriend is killed and stuffed in a refrigerator. He literally is the person for whom the term “fridging” was invented. It took until Tom King, and Omega Men in specific, for someone who was actually talented enough to go “wait so there’s just this dude who is arguably one of if not the most powerful character in the universe on an absolute level just sort of hanging around the edges of it, doing nothing because he’s really unpopular and super bland and nothing, who has has literal decades worth of pathos and unearned power-ups sort of just thrust onto him in vague hopes that he becomes a good character? And literally none of it has worked, and as a result we have this living god just sort of…completely glossed over? What would that guy do if he finally found something he believed in, something he genuinely cared about?” Like, paradoxically Omega Men is so good because Kyle up until that point has sucked so badly and had no real reason to exist, and instead of just giving him more cool toys or unearned “character building” King just internalized it narratively and went “this is a guy who has no motivation to be anything he is and let’s examine that for once”.
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NieR Occomata posted:That could work but it’d run into the Netflix Marvel problem where it ends up feeling inherently inferior to the “main” product and reads as cheaper as a matter of course. For Oliver Queen and Green Arrow specifically that would actually be a point in its favor considering the thematic similarities to be fair. So I guess, yeah, could work, but it’d have to be the most careful possible hand to not end up like “the green guy” cringe-inducing poo poo from Jessica Jones et al. I was kind optimistic about Black Adam for basically this reason. He was a new commodity, a secondary character, JSA were there, maybe they could all just do their own thing. It sounds like its not a good movie and that sucks. But in theory it was a lot more appealing to me than the Snyder Cut ever was because it was so much more simple and had so much less noise and baggage. So just do that for awhile. Keep it simple, drop the baggage, just focus on making good movies and establishing good characters. Then if that works you can get crazy.
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I guess taking a blank canvas is at least better than what King usually does by taking someone and just ignoring everything about them and writing them completely out of character.
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Kyle, Torchbearer, wilder of Godlike Lantern power as Ion, is boring? Uh ok dude
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Rhyno posted:y'all know i'm extremely fragile mentally these days right That's okay mate. Guy is the best Green Lantern. After Kyle. A nearby comic shop has the whole Guy Gardner Warrior run for sale. Maybe I should pick it up.
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i'm watching Shazam somehow for the first time and they should just ditch everything but this. #LAUNCHTHESHAZAMERVERSE
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Stewart is the best Green Lantern, but he's also the only one to really get a good presentation and story in non-comic medium to this point so it's fine to give someone else a shot. It's Gunn so honestly I wouldn't be surprised if Guy does get the nod just because Gunn loves a powerful ding-dong on the team. He can be the next Drax or King Shark.
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NieR Occomata posted:Remember, Guy is literally the lantern whose girlfriend is killed and stuffed in a refrigerator. He literally is the person for whom the term “fridging” was invented.  I mean, Ice might’ve been in a fridge once or twice — pun totally intended — but I don’t think she invented that trope. X-O posted:I guess taking a blank canvas is at least better than what King usually does by taking someone and just ignoring everything about them and writing them completely out of character. 
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NieR Occomata posted:It works in context, but it’s also the payoff to a bunch of writers not knowing what to do with him for literal decades so they just gave him a bunch of random poo poo in hopes they’d basically build a character like he’s a collection of spare parts. Remember, Guy is literally the lantern whose girlfriend is killed and stuffed in a refrigerator. He literally is the person for whom the term “fridging” was invented. Kyle. That happens to Kyle. Well, specifically it happened to Alexandra DeWitt.
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Yeah I meant Kyle. Whoops my bad
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Kyle will always have a special place in my heart because he was the character that got me into comics as a kid back in the 90's. Just the sheer concept of "I'm just a normal guy that was randomly given the most powerful weapon in the universe and its up to me to carry on a legacy I know nothing about is way more interesting to me than, "I'm a military guy and also one of a billion space cops". Plus I'll take knock off Gundams over bubble shields and boxing gloves any day of the week.
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yeah the GLC sucks post cop infusion. i mean it was always there but then Johns went all in on COPS IN SPACE bullshit.
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God, I kind of hope all this means The Flash never comes out. I mean, it'd be terrible for all the people who've spent years making something that will never see the light of day, but it'd be the funniest possible outcome for a movie that has been utterly cursed from preproduction onwards.
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NieR Occomata posted:I’m a big DC fan. Also I think the long-running host of the Daily Show is the worst Green Lantern. Kyle is basically DC’s equivalent to Peter Parker. He has real problems like paying for rent, maintaining a relationship, and finding a job in the animation industry
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How do you guys think The Rock is going to react when James Gunn has to deliver to him the bad news that DC will not be moving forward with him. Hope he doesn’t get into a fit of roid rage and assault james
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The guy who played as Stifler in American Pie should play as Guy Gardner And his constructs should all be in the form of 80s action stars like Stallone and Hulk Hogan
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Rhyno posted:i'm watching Shazam somehow for the first time and they should just ditch everything but this. It's shockingly good. I'm nervous about the new one though because it looks like they balked at the stuff that made it work for me.
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I just want to see patman against zsasz,gotham being flooded and the chaos that happened would be perfect for zsasz to be picking people off. Plus killer croc could be in it,like the earth one comics.
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Noob Saibot posted:The guy who played as Stifler in American Pie should play as Guy Gardner the Rundown era Sean William Scott would have been a perfect Guy Gardner.
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Noob Saibot posted:Couple thoughts: Takes so hot they're 
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Rhyno posted:the Rundown era Sean William Scott would have been a perfect Guy Gardner. Or Steve zahn
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Mr Hootington posted:Or Steve zahn maybe 80's Guy.
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In the end, as I learned when they cancelled my much desired Raimi Spider-Man 4, no one is entitled to or owed the films that they want. It sucks when they stop making films that excite you and do something else but it is what it is. The Snyderverse was polarising so there's gonna be as many people happy about seeing it go as there are people furious. No one is right or wrong here and no injustice has been done (except maybe to whoever told Cavill he was back a couple of months before he wasn't, which probably sucks for him).
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You people are insane. Hal Jordan is the worst Green Lantern, aka what if my grandpa had super powers.
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Joe Fisto posted:All Green Lanterns Are Bastards #AGLAB what the heck did G'Nort ever do to you
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Joe Fisto posted:All Green Lanterns Are Bastards #AGLAB Only the human ones. Gunn should be the first with the cajones to really acknowledge this and make a straight up Kilowog movie.
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Rhyno posted:what the heck did G'Nort ever do to you He kept pulling Bloodwynd over for dumb stuff like broken taillights. Have you seen Bloodwynd recently? No? Interesting.
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Rhyno posted:in retrospect, Bloodwynd being the Martian Manhunter in blackface is a little oof So what about him on Supergirl then? Wouldn't that basically be the same thing?
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E the Shaggy posted:You people are insane. Hal Jordan is the worst Green Lantern, aka what if my grandpa had super powers. gently caress you, all my grandads were cooler than Hal Jordan, buster!
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Isn't J'onn's human identity drawn as Black nowadays anyway, thanks to both Harewood and Carl Lumbly's performance in the cartoon?
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X-O posted:So what about him on Supergirl then? Wouldn't that basically be the same thing? our intro to that character was always Harewood so i don't think it's the same. also when you read the origin of Bloodwynd two parter it gets even worse.
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I recently rewatched the Green Lantern movie and it is quite impressive how they tried to make Hal cool by having Reynolds play him. I mean it didn't work but all props to him. My issue with Hal is that A: he looks like a dad and he will always look like a dad. B: We are constantly told what a reckless joyful fun guy he is but it always feels like the writer whoever thinks that just by saying that it makes it true. I didn't hate the movie too much on rewatch. The graphics definitely look terrible. The Hector Hammond stuff was really unneeded. Paralax was a cloud. The Oa stuff seemed like a good idea but felt more like an afterthought.
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I always remember Reynolds' talking about the origin of the GL movie. "We didn't have a script, we had a movie poster."
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theironjef posted:Only the human ones. Gunn should be the first with the cajones to really acknowledge this and make a straight up Kilowog movie. have the movie be about the angry cat
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Soul Glo posted:Henry Cavill for Cyclops I was thinking this exact thing. It's all jaw.
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site posted:have the movie be about the angry cat Site is right
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