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The best part of the art direction in this set is that people on twitter are already having extremely bizarre reactions to it that I hope continue as more cards are revealed. 
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Dec 15, 2022 07:48
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the whole hellraiser flayed skin aesthetic is fairly uncomfortable and the corpse puppet venser was turned into is also a hell of a lot. i'm not going to blame anyone if the body horror aspect of the set hits them real poorly
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Dec 15, 2022 07:53
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funny, I just see Warframe Sentinels, or more precisely Amalgams they could (and should) go waaay more into body horror if they wanted
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I am looking forward to the Rhystic Studies video for this one
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Dec 15, 2022 07:57
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Framboise posted:I suppose this is where they learn how to un-compleat people because there's no way they're going to leave their most prominent character in that state. Jace is like the fuckin Mario of MTG at this point lol lol no mario is cool. jace sucks. they had a boring guy before jace who was also their halfass mario and they got rid of him too.
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Dec 15, 2022 08:07
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Fish Of Doom posted:The best part of the art direction in this set is that people on twitter are already having extremely bizarre reactions to it that I hope continue as more cards are revealed. I think it is neat that wotc can do proper and unsettling horror art even in the pg-13 mass market oriented space that they aim at
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Dec 15, 2022 08:14
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flatluigi posted:the whole hellraiser flayed skin aesthetic is fairly uncomfortable and the corpse puppet venser was turned into is also a hell of a lot. i'm not going to blame anyone if the body horror aspect of the set hits them real poorly that person's not complaining about flayed skin. they're saying phyrexians mind controlling people is like stupid therapy that conservatives push on queer people to try and make them not gay or trans any more. honestly as a survivor of conversion therapy i find that comparison really offensive, silly fantasy magic that can rewrite your mind is nothing like the actual poo poo that goes on in conversion therapy.
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Dec 15, 2022 08:47
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i don't think you know that that person doesn't also have history with conversion therapy + i disagree that compleation has been treated as silly in the story, but w/e regarding the spoilers: i saw someone point out that the font is incorrect, so i'd maybe take it with a big grain of salt. they also don't have particular details from the concept art that was posted (particularly, jace wielding luxior feels like a detail that'd carry over since it's such an odd pull to include) which makes me also doubt it, but that's more subjective
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Dec 15, 2022 08:53
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flatluigi posted:i don't think you know that that person doesn't also have history with conversion therapy + i disagree that compleation has been treated as silly in the story, but w/e no, i don't know about that person's experience. i didn't say they didn't. i said that i myself find it an absurd criticism.
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Dec 15, 2022 08:58
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Fish Of Doom posted:The best part of the art direction in this set is that people on twitter are already having extremely bizarre reactions to it that I hope continue as more cards are revealed. It's not exactly clear to me what people expected from "the cronenberg-esque corrupting, flesh-shaping, monster machine villains are currently winning". YggdrasilTM fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Dec 15, 2022 |
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Dec 15, 2022 10:55
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I think the art is beautiful, new phyrexias ascetics were what got me hooked on the game in the first place. But i understand it not being for everyone tbh
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Dec 15, 2022 13:12
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mandatory lesbian posted:I think the art is beautiful, new phyrexias ascetics were what got me hooked on the game in the first place. But i understand it not being for everyone tbh It's definitely not my thing but I've been impressed at what's been shown so far. All of the art looks to be extremely on theme with "planet of cyborg zombie demons setting up their multidimensional invasion army of grotesqueries", very good in terms of just overall quality, and a lot of it is extremely creepy. I'm sure there are valid criticisms of the art direction to be had - although that conversion therapy analogy seems like an extreme stretch -but overall they're hitting it out of the park.
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Arivia posted:that person's not complaining about flayed skin. they're saying phyrexians mind controlling people is like stupid therapy that conservatives push on queer people to try and make them not gay or trans any more. honestly as a survivor of conversion therapy i find that comparison really offensive, silly fantasy magic that can rewrite your mind is nothing like the actual poo poo that goes on in conversion therapy. I'm a CISHET white man, so like, y'know, who gives a gently caress about my take on this. But I see this mentality quite often and I don't get it, where, I mean... Compleation is a BAD thing? Right? WotC aren't endorsing conversion therapy just by having something similar to it in a game, especially when it's something that the villains are doing? I guess the problematic part comes with playing with it as an ability in the game, ok, while typing this out I realised the potentially offensive part. But I mean, y'know, no one really thinks terminating someone is a good thing, I don't think you're 'supporting' death clouds when you cast it. But I can see that since it's sort of insidious and not as widely accepted as 'a bad thing™' as doing a murder is, having what is essentially conversion therapy be a game mechanic that you use to win a game feels a bit (or very, for some I guess) icky. Yeah, alright, I'm fuckin' ignorant. Well, I'm gonna post it anyway to document my ignorance. Can't grow if I don't admit my mistakes.
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My opinion on the art so far is that I hate it, but I hate it in the sense of "This art is doing exactly what it's trying to do, it's just that what it's trying to do is disturb me" and not "This art is bad on a technical level".
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Dec 15, 2022 15:12
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Fish Of Doom posted:The best part of the art direction in this set is that people on twitter are already having extremely bizarre reactions to it that I hope continue as more cards are revealed. Whoever this person is has been Online Too Long
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Orange Fluffy Sheep posted:Explains why one literally cannot be used, one was banned for being completely free, and one purports to be hybrid g/r but is actually 5-color. Isn't the only one banned in commander the singleton one? I don't really keep up with that format But yeah they were (mostly) a disaster for every other format that's for dang sure
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Did I miss Tamiyo and Ajani being super gay pre-compleation and rigidly het post? Or is there something specific about the process of completion that mirrors conversion therapy? Because if it's just the fact that magical borg swarm has a magical brainwashing thing, that is too generic to really say it's specifically a conversion therapy allegory. Cults and regimes also do indoctrination stuff and completion evokes the fear of those phenomena as well. If that poster has experienced conversion therapy and subsequently developed a strong aversion to brain washing as a narrative device, I am genuinely sympathetic. That doesn't make it a good critique of the story though. If they don't have that experience, it feels a little like using trauma real people have experienced as ammunition in an internet slap fight. I dunno. I'm mostly posting this hoping Tamiyo and Ajani were super gay and someone will share the cool lore I missed.
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The problem with social media is it amplifies some really strange loving takes and gives them legitimacy they usually haven’t earned. I’m not saying that person can’t feel that way about conpleation and the art style of these sets, but I don’t know that it needs intense consideration. For my own personal point of view, I am very squeamish about body horror/Hellraiser poo poo in movies, but I think this stuff all looks pretty rad.
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Wittgen posted:Did I miss Tamiyo and Ajani being super gay pre-compleation and rigidly het post? Nah.
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Weird Pumpkin posted:Isn't the only one banned in commander the singleton one? I don't really keep up with that format Lutri is banned because he's free, the other one is legal, but can't be played because no 120 card decks.
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People say Jace is MTG’s Mario but I feel like we barely see him any more. I haven’t checked so I might be way off but I think we’ve had way more Teferi planeswalkers than Jace’s in the post-Arena world (huge upgrade imo, even if he’s not a bald king anymore). I think Chandra is definitely the Planeswalker face of the franchise tho.
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fadam posted:People say Jace is MTG’s Mario but I feel like we barely see him any more. I haven’t checked so I might be way off but I think we’ve had way more Teferi planeswalkers than Jace’s in the post-Arena world (huge upgrade imo, even if he’s not a bald king anymore). I think Chandra is definitely the Planeswalker face of the franchise tho. Last Jace card was Mirror Mage in ZNR, right? Been a few years then.
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serefin99 posted:My opinion on the art so far is that I hate it, but I hate it in the sense of "This art is doing exactly what it's trying to do, it's just that what it's trying to do is disturb me" and not "This art is bad on a technical level". 
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fadam posted:People say Jace is MTG’s Mario but I feel like we barely see him any more. I haven’t checked so I might be way off but I think we’ve had way more Teferi planeswalkers than Jace’s in the post-Arena world (huge upgrade imo, even if he’s not a bald king anymore). I think Chandra is definitely the Planeswalker face of the franchise tho. I don't think there's an equivalent. With Mario, everyone goes "Look it's Mario! I want to play the Mario game!" But with the Planeswalkers it's always been more like "Oh yeah, Jace is in this game isn't he. Is he at the moment? Yeah, but ... is a good one? Like is Jace a thing at the moment?" Where, you're peripherally aware of them as characters, but since it's really their impact on the GAME that matters not the fluff, the 'face' seems to just fluctuate between which one has a version out that seems broken somewhere at the moment. And, you get a ton of like, "Starter Deck Chandra!" type cards that are poo poo, which makes them feel kinda like mooks. Personally I feel like Chandra is the most omnipresent but also the most 'bulk Planeswalker' where I don't really feel anything about her as a character, I just see her as "repeatable burn that I'm hoping is on the plus rather than the minus on this one". It's never felt to me like an ensemble cast of various protagonists as much as it has a grab bag of attempts that they're hoping will resonate and eventually will pick one to be the big name, but never have.
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!Klams posted:I don't think there's an equivalent. With Mario, everyone goes "Look it's Mario! I want to play the Mario game!" But with the Planeswalkers it's always been more like "Oh yeah, Jace is in this game isn't he. Is he at the moment? Yeah, but ... is a good one? Like is Jace a thing at the moment?" Where, you're peripherally aware of them as characters, but since it's really their impact on the GAME that matters not the fluff, the 'face' seems to just fluctuate between which one has a version out that seems broken somewhere at the moment. And, you get a ton of like, "Starter Deck Chandra!" type cards that are poo poo, which makes them feel kinda like mooks. Personally I feel like Chandra is the most omnipresent but also the most 'bulk Planeswalker' where I don't really feel anything about her as a character, I just see her as "repeatable burn that I'm hoping is on the plus rather than the minus on this one". I think chandra's design is pretty cool in a lot of her cards at least. Cool goggles, lots of fire, kinda.. magic punk I guess? Jace I just feel basically nothing for other than I guess liking when he draws me cards
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Weird Pumpkin posted:I think chandra's design is pretty cool in a lot of her cards at least. Cool goggles, lots of fire, kinda.. magic punk I guess? Sure her 'design' is cool, I think Garruks initial design was quite cool too. But what's her personality like? I assume she's hot-headed because lol fire, but I have no idea. I think she loves her mum, from Kaladesh or something? Iunno. More than that though, is she gonna be in the next one? No clue. She might not be in it ever again and I wouldn't be shocked. I don't feel like she's at all even slightly integral to MtG the brand being the game I know and love. Same for any of them. I really like Karn, but, that was more because I liked his character back in the Urza days. He was kind of interesting to me, as this powerful pacifist. Then when they made him a planeswalker he somehow seemed more boring. MAYBE I was just more into the story back then, because you used to get a book with every fat pack, (in fact it's definitely this) but I just personally feel like all the Planeswalkers we know could ALL get compleated or killed, and I couldn't give a rats rear end if I tried. We had that one Dominaria set with a billion Planeswalkers, and I don't feel as if any of them are any more or less 'the protagonist' of magic than say, Liliana.
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Weird Pumpkin posted:I think chandra's design is pretty cool in a lot of her cards at least. Cool goggles, lots of fire, kinda.. magic punk I guess? He's a generic wizard in a game full of wizards. The OG planeswalkers were Cat-man warrior, steampunk fire mage, barbarian woodsman, sexy goth necromancer, and wizard in a hooded robe. He wasn't even the cliche elder mentor, which could have made him slightly more interesting? idk. He is so generic as a character.
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dragon enthusiast posted:Apparently leaked by an official WOTC account on Weibo? If these aren't some slick as hell fakes using the new "oil slick" foil whatever that's supposed to be in the new fat pack, at least Jace and Vraska can still be bf/gf. To hell with Nissa
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jassi007 posted:He's a generic wizard in a game full of wizards. The OG planeswalkers were Cat-man warrior, steampunk fire mage, barbarian woodsman, sexy goth necromancer, and wizard in a hooded robe. He wasn't even the cliche elder mentor, which could have made him slightly more interesting? idk. He is so generic as a character. The OG planeswalkers were the ur-wizard of the wizards, a man-turned dragonman, elf xenophobe, fantasy han solo, fantasy deadpool librarian, and cat-man warrior. Also Garth One-Eye
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This is Commodore Guff erasure and I will not stand for it
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Silhouette posted:This is Commodore Guff erasure and I will not stand for it He's fantasy deadpool librarian. And my favorite planeswalker
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dragon enthusiast posted:Apparently leaked by an official WOTC account on Weibo? Those edges look horrible. They also appear to be pringles.
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^well yeah they're pringles, they're foiled lol!Klams posted:Garruk I'm curious when this guy came out because whenever I see him I just get "offbrand Rexxar" from him. I assume MTG made it first and then Warcraft proudly ripped it off like they do for literally all characters, settings, plot details, and ideas they've ever had, by mandate. I know they definitely cribbed form Liliana, wondering if Rexxar is another MtG copycat c haracter.
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Khanstant posted:^well yeah they're pringles, they're foiled lol Rexxar was in like warcraft 2, definitely predates garruk e: Warcraft 3. Still, 2002, predating lorwyn by 5 years. Arivia fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Dec 15, 2022 |
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Khanstant posted:^well yeah they're pringles, they're foiled lol
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oh wow so it was the other way around. gotta say I prefer rexxar, if only because he isn't a human, the most offensive and offputting thing any character can be in a fantasy world where there's even a single other option.
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These universe beyond crossovers are getting out of control
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:These universe beyond crossovers are getting out of control To be fair $99 is right on the Hasbro price point.
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:These universe beyond crossovers are getting out of control Please tell me that is his actual, for real MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT
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