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wocobob posted:That's about what I thought. They're gonna have their work cut out for them balancing it between arena (62% winrate, literally the only class that can win consistently besides Paladin) and constructed (48% winrate, no good decks). buff the cards, lower their offer rate in arena drafts the tricky part is balancing both at once
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That VS report mentioned Evolve Shaman and I thought it looked neat but I didn't have dust for all the legendaries, so I did this: ### Jank Evolve Shaman # Class: Shaman # Format: Standard # Year of the Hydra # # 2x (1) Convincing Disguise # 2x (1) Muck Pools # 2x (1) Schooling # 2x (1) Windchill # 2x (2) Carving Chisel # 2x (3) Far Sight # 2x (3) Primordial Wave # 2x (4) Prescience # 2x (4) Wildpaw Cavern # 2x (5) Bloodlust # 2x (5) Command of Neptulon # 2x (6) Tiny Toys # 1x (7) Lor'themar Theron # 1x (8) Blightblood Berserker # 2x (10) Goldshire Gnoll # 2x (10) Sea Giant # AAECAaoIAvigBe+iBQ7j9gPG+QPckgTblATgtQTGzgSF1ASi1ASq2QSv2QS12QS22QTy3QSGoQUA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone Prescience will always give you at least a 2/3 with taunt, as long as you haven't already drawn all the minions in the deck. Replace Lor'Themar and Blightblood with any other minion at least 5 mana and you'll preserve that effect. The better list I saw had Glugg the Gulper and the Bru'kan hero card in place of those. I can't say it's awesome but it's fun screwing around with in casual. People don't seem to appreciate having their whole board full of minions transformed (DR Rogues especially will just bail)
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It's the 4-ban Tavern Brawl again. Anyone remember that Rogue list from last time? I think it had Pogo Hoppers and something else nasty.
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In a weird way, I like that Death Knight isn’t great… makes me feel cooler for playing it!
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Sloppy posted:It's the 4-ban Tavern Brawl again. Anyone remember that Rogue list from last time? I think it had Pogo Hoppers and something else nasty.
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I did it with Pogo, Snip Snap, and two mech cost reducer mechs. My opponent got me down to 3 life with something that used direct face damage and Shadow of Demise if you got that.
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Paladin in arena is pretty loving cracked with flight of the bronze, got offered it 4 times and went 12-0
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Sloppy posted:It's the 4-ban Tavern Brawl again. Anyone remember that Rogue list from last time? I think it had Pogo Hoppers and something else nasty. the boring "get it done" build is Pogo, Mechwarper, Counterfeit Coin, Secret Passage
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Sloppy posted:It's the 4-ban Tavern Brawl again. Anyone remember that Rogue list from last time? I think it had Pogo Hoppers and something else nasty. Pogo, counterfeit coin, sinstone and secret passage worked well enough for me. They ban pogo, you do an almost infinite turn and slam down to bigass stealthed minions, they concede.
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mcbexx posted:Pogo, counterfeit coin, sinstone and secret passage worked well enough for me. They ban pogo, you do an almost infinite turn and slam down to bigass stealthed minions, they concede. Yeah i did this. No bad ban for it and the best outcome is they ban pogo which feels at first glance the "correct" ban
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I decided to try out that new mage list in the VS report. I wasn't planning on pushing for legend this month, but this deck hard carried me from D3. Felt good into just about everything (except miracle rogue). ### Ice burn # Class: Mage # Format: Standard # Year of the Hydra # # 2x (0) Flurry (Rank 1) # 2x (1) Arcane Wyrm # 2x (1) Irondeep Trogg # 2x (1) Shivering Sorceress # 2x (1) Suspicious Alchemist # 2x (2) Amplified Snowflurry # 1x (2) Astalor Bloodsworn # 1x (2) Bloodmage Thalnos # 2x (2) Crooked Cook # 2x (2) Frozen Touch # 2x (3) Arcsplitter # 2x (3) Frostweave Dungeoneer # 2x (4) Cold Case # 1x (4) Commander Sivara # 2x (4) School Teacher # 1x (5) Aegwynn, the Guardian # 2x (6) Deathborne # AAECAf0EBIvnA5egBKneBOKkBQ3U6gPS7AOfkgShkgThpASWtwTa0ATb3gT67ATd7QSCkwXFkwWrmAUA # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
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Oh yea reminder that 2022 World Championship is on now and all this weekend, youtube only, with drops Lineups here (it's p grim) https://www.d0nkey.top/wc/2022
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surely they will showcase the dominant new class, death kni- hahahahahahaha it's all combo decks and control priest/pally
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Excelzior posted:surely they will showcase the dominant new class, death kni- hahahahahahaha it's all combo decks and control priest/pally an extremely exciting quest dh mirror where no minions were played turn 1-5 and neither player completed the quest was just ended on turn six by 29 damage from hand
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AnacondaHL posted:Oh yea reminder that 2022 World Championship is on now and all this weekend, youtube only, with drops
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No Wave posted:I see. the players all agreed not to bring death knight. DK is non-competitive right now, so I don't think any agreement was needed. There's just no reason to bring a bad class.
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Enrage Warrior might be a better deck than anything the DK can build right now.
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peer posted:an extremely exciting quest dh mirror where no minions were played turn 1-5 and neither player completed the quest was just ended on turn six by 29 damage from hand
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Eeepies posted:Enrage Warrior might be a better deck than anything the DK can build right now. Honestly enrage Warrior is perfectly fine, it’s a tiny bit weaker than the other aggro options but it’s still something you can climb ladder with. It’s just unpopular so nobody’s trying to refine it to give it that last percentage point or two to it’s winrate
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Oh this is actually kinda cool: Trump (via the WC decklists on d0nkey) breaks down the decks and meta in a digestible way https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9aQKvQf0bw
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AnacondaHL posted:Oh yea reminder that 2022 World Championship is on now and all this weekend, youtube only, with drops are there? how do you get these
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Sandwolf posted:are there? how do you get these I found instructions for linking your youtube and battlenet account at https://news.blizzard.com/en-us/hearthstone/23891618/hearthstone-2022-world-championship-viewer-s-guide
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Have those drops turned up for anyone yet? I had the stream going for like 6 hours yesterday and haven't had anything yet.
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victorious posted:Have those drops turned up for anyone yet? I had the stream going for like 6 hours yesterday and haven't had anything yet. They are often delayed, at least until the end of the event, sometimes a couple of days after that. It's not Twitch.
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Oh yeah I know it's been delayed in the past but it's really inconsistent with YouTube. Sometimes they come straight away.
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Man the end of the Mighty-posesi elimination match was some crazy poo poo. Mighty was desperately trying to find his Purified Shard to before posesi found his Astalor in Ramp Druid in the final match of their elimination set, and both were just cycling through their decks like crazy, seemingly unable to find their wincon. Mighty finally finds his Shard, but is unable to play it since he had to draw into it... and Posesi topdecks Astalor on a 1-in-6 and slams down his entire combo to eliminate Mighty. Really that entire series was just a bunch of insane lucksacking for posesi.
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Especially because Mighty could have won the game by just wirlpooling his own Astalor.
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Astalor is such a dumb loving card
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Julio Cruz posted:Astalor is such a dumb loving card
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NorgLyle posted:I feel like the real problem, say it with me, is Brann. 100% but they're not gonna bother doing anything about Brann when he rotates next expansion
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Right but a lot of terrible meta occurrences this rotation have been because of Brann. He never should have rotated back in and Team 5 willingly letting that happen kind of shows an inability to understand their own card game, which is concerning.
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NorgLyle posted:I feel like the real problem, say it with me, is Brann. 1000% I actually love Astalor, I think it’s a great flexible neutral legendary that has a strong power level without feeling like it’s a deck’s sole win condition. Of course being able to generate multiple copies of him is super broken, but that’s brann for you
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https://twitter.com/SongbirdCora/status/1602354228856381440 I wouldn't be surprised if we add Astalor to the pile of cards that have been changed because of Brann, but it's going to be a long winter.
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I could some kind of small nerf happening to Brann, maybe making him go to 4 mana and dropping him back to 3 when he rotates out.
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Gonna be funny when Brann does rotate out and they gotta clean up the mess it makes with all these cards that got rebalanced around him
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VS be damned I’ve had a really good time climbing with this Warrior deck lately ### Watch Out # Class: Warrior # Format: Standard # Year of the Hydra # # 2x (0) Provoke # 2x (1) Irondeep Trogg # 1x (1) Sanguine Depths # 2x (1) Sunfury Champion # 2x (2) Anima Extractor # 1x (2) Astalor Bloodsworn # 2x (2) Crazed Wretch # 2x (2) Embers of Strength # 2x (2) Far Watch Post # 2x (3) Imbued Axe # 1x (3) Rokara # 2x (3) Weapons Expert # 2x (4) Crossroads Watch Post # 2x (4) Light of the Phoenix # 2x (4) Sunfire Smithing # 1x (4) Thori'belore # 1x (6) Decimator Olgra # 1x (7) Rokara, the Valorous # AAECAce+BQaV7QO8igSB3ASJgwXipAW53QUM9+gD+OgDxvUD4aQEvNsE/9sEvuIEnO8Ew5IFzZIFj5UFkaMFAA== # # To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone Watch posts make rogues and dh very sad
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NorgLyle posted:I feel like the real problem, say it with me, is Brann. I think the real problem is that they design as if he doesn’t exist in Standard.
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Mayveena posted:I think the real problem is that they design as if he doesn’t exist in Standard. He's great in Wild, and nerfing him would probably piss off the Wild playerbase.
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Desert Bus posted:He's great in Wild, and nerfing him would probably piss off the Wild playerbase. They have nerfed cards and then unnerfed them when they move to wild. I’m sure they’d do that this time, no reason not to.
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NorgLyle posted:I feel like the real problem, say it with me, is Brann. Pretty sure the real problem is that Druid can drop 36 mana worth of minions in one turn. Brann + Alastor are both neutrals but they're only a problem with one class.
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