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If I post where I am on Twitter am I doxxing myself? If I take a picture of someone at a public event and @ them am I doxxing both of us? If I post a recent link to an image with coordinate data am I doxxing everyone in the photo? If I say I am going to meet someone at a public place in the near future am I doxxing us? Seeing a rich idiot in charge of so much just reminds me how the entire system is rigged and nothing really matters.
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You can post where you are on twitter, but everyone who retweets will be banned
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Dec 16, 2022 17:11
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Find myself wanting to make jokes about assassination coordinates but I also don't want to upset the secret service
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Dec 16, 2022 17:24
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Not musk related, but: I yesterday wore some cologne to a company holiday party. I don't often wear it, my partner commented on the name of it, once. We cover and disable any sort of always-on microphone on all of our devices like phones, etc. I did not google the cologne. My partner did not. Nobody else talked to me about it at all. I received a Facebook ad for that *exact* cologne this morning. I don't regularly receive ads for cologne. I'm trying to figure out how that ad happened.
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Dec 16, 2022 18:44
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You only noticed the ad because you talked about the cologne, not the other way around.
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Dec 16, 2022 18:49
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I regularly check to see what ads I'm being fed because I'm interested in how this works, and it was the exact brand, not just a random similar product, within 24 hours of wearing it. I know what other cologne ads I get, it's always from a different company. It can be a coincidence, just seems odd.
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Dec 16, 2022 18:52
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I prefer to turn off all suggested ads and force advertisers to waste money desperately trying to hawk poo poo i don't care about.
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Dec 16, 2022 18:57
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It's a coincidence. People have spent a very considerable amount of time and effort debunking those "Facebook listens to your microphone" myths. They simply are not true.
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Dec 16, 2022 18:57
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If you ordered the cologne yourself online then a tracking cookie could have gotten its mitten on it and its appearance is more of a coincidence. Stuff likes to advertise things I just bought back at me.
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Dec 16, 2022 19:04
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Jaxyon posted:
what do you mean by cover? like even as a lame nerd that does privacy/security theater of doing normal browsing with a vpn, I just have my phone on my desk. granted I try to keep it in its phonecase, face down.
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Dec 16, 2022 19:05
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its a coincidence because i get similar correlations between "i talked about a thing" -> "here's an ad for thing" but i don't have a smartphone and my flip phone is not at all tied to my identity in any trackable way
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Dec 16, 2022 19:06
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Edit:wrong thread
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Dec 16, 2022 19:12
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PhazonLink posted:what do you mean by cover? like even as a lame nerd that does privacy/security theater of doing normal browsing with a vpn, I just have my phone on my desk. I have a slug that goes into the headphone jack of my phone that should force it turn off the internal mic and switch it the external which is receiving no input. I'm aware of the fact that the microphone stuff has been debunked, and I'm also aware of the fact that if I value privacy I should be off all social media, especially anything by Meta. I'm just not 100% rational economic actor.
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Dec 16, 2022 20:00
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Jaxyon posted:Not musk related, but: Is it that uncommon of a cologne? Maybe your friends' tastes or searches might be affecting what you see. I feel like I get all kinds of political ads I don't want to see thanks to the Facebook friends I have.
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Dec 16, 2022 20:46
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Meanwhile I'm still getting adverts for a local Trunk-or-Treat 
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Dec 16, 2022 20:58
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It's not a coincidence, it's because you got vaxed. 
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Dec 16, 2022 21:33
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that talk might have influenced some of your friends on FB to google said cologne, and apparently ad tracking also uses your network for ad suggestion. but yeah some times it's just a coincidence
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Dec 16, 2022 21:37
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CmdrRiker posted:It's not a coincidence, it's because you got vaxed. I mean there was a bird outside my house yesterday, and we all know those little shits aren't real
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Dec 16, 2022 21:38
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also you never think about the times where you talked about something and didn't get ad suggestions for it (probably in the hundreds to thousands)
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Dec 16, 2022 21:39
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Jaxyon posted:I have a slug that goes into the headphone jack of my phone that should force it turn off the internal mic and switch it the external which is receiving no input. That's......something else. And likely 100% ineffective. You really think there's a physical switch that is interrupting wiring to the mic in your headphone jack? There's a physical switch alright, but it's just pulling a pin low on a controller so the software can know when to do something different.
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Dec 16, 2022 22:16
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Jaxyon posted:Not musk related, but: uh huh
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Dec 16, 2022 22:32
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Motronic posted:That's......something else. I imagine a particularly malicious attacker could do whatever they want and I think there is an API to select a whatever microphone so somebody could code it to just use the built-in. However, I also think it would work for most of these apps. It's a "do not attribute to malice what you can attribute to incompetent malice" kind of thing.
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Dec 16, 2022 22:49
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Even the Soviets understood that it's not the content of calls that's worth keeping, but the metadata - who called whom and when. Just from that you could infer a lot about any individual. Facebook has even more, they don't need your recordings
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Dec 16, 2022 23:08
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Jaxyon posted:I regularly check to see what ads I'm being fed because I'm interested in how this works, and it was the exact brand, not just a random similar product, within 24 hours of wearing it. Someone knew you bought it. The store sells the data about the customers, and it gets fed into the hundreds (thousands?) of data mining companies that resell it. You don’t need to have your phone listening. It’s everywhere.
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Dec 17, 2022 00:25
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F4rt5 posted:Someone knew you bought it. The store sells the data about the customers, and it gets fed into the hundreds (thousands?) of data mining companies that resell it. You don’t need to have your phone listening. It’s everywhere. Yeah but It's like a 10 year old bottle and I haven't seen an ad for it ever until today. I realize it's unlikely that It's an ultra-targetted ad listening to my every word, but it's super disconcerting that it came up right now, out of nowhere.
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Dec 17, 2022 00:29
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John Carmack left Meta. Here's his Facebook post:quote:I resigned from my position as an executive consultant for VR with Meta. My internal post to the company got leaked to the press, but that just results in them picking a few choice bits out of it. Here is the full post, just as the internal employees saw it: and his thread of tweets on the subject: quote:I resigned from Meta, and my internal post got leaked to the press, resulting in some fragmented quotes. Here is the full thing: (link to above) Keen Technologies is his new startup. Zuckerberg can't be happy.
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Dec 17, 2022 05:38
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Heh, Keen. Carmack is notoriously a bit of a weird robot of a dude but figures he's still better at it than Zuck.
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Jaxyon posted:Not musk related, but: Couple of different ways. The first is simple apophinia. You got a cologne ad and your monkey brain immediately tried to pattern recognize even though you talk about thousands of different things in any given month and the overwhelming majority never appear on your ads and/or go unnoticed. We see the same behavior in Baader-meinhof, which is the phenomenon that occurs when you learn a new term or concept and then see it everywhere. It was there before, your brain just didn't register it as important. The other is that you were at a company holiday party. A lot of people there are probably wearing cologne. If one of them searched it, and you were nearby, the algorithm might associate you with them and suggest things they searched. My mom, for example, got a Gunpla ad after she visited me earlier this momth. I never touched her phone, never talked about it at all, but I buy Gunpla, google knows she is my mom, she came to visit me, and it thought, hey, maybe you could buy him a Gunpla.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:John Carmack left Meta. Here's his Facebook post: What is "AGI"?
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Mister Facetious posted:What is "AGI"? "Artificial General Intelligence"
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there's an iron law or something about aging technical people being credulous about contemporary research his twitter musings about deep learning and language models is like undergrad level stuff these days
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yes let's not give Carmack the benefit of the doubt, since he has a track record of underachieving
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well he talks fast enough to fool me  the ben shapiro of tech
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Sagacity posted:yes let's not give Carmack the benefit of the doubt, since he has a track record of underachieving He's a libertarian dipshit but in terms of making fast video game engines, which are what make VR possible in the first place, he has a pretty good idea. Everything that is good about the Quest (including it's existence) is mostly down to Carmack. He was right about mobile VR, inside out tracking and that the focus should be on performance and games, not stupid metaverse poo poo.
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What does that 5% GPU utilization number mean? Does it mean the software is maxing the CPU while only using 5% of GPU capacity? Or that only 5% of customers have a GPU?
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Heh, Keen. Weird choice, considering his past statements/sentiment to the series. Can't say I don't appreciate the nod, though!
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thekeeshman posted:What does that 5% GPU utilization number mean? Does it mean the software is maxing the CPU while only using 5% of GPU capacity? Or that only 5% of customers have a GPU? That sounds to me like the GPU was only using 5% of it's theoretical peak throughput because the software is so bad.
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I think it’s more so a reference to employee output, ie his team is only achieving 5% of what they could
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Jaxyon posted:Not musk related, but: It is location based. People at the party around you kept searching "cologne that smells like rear end" and your cologne, "rear end by Givenchy", came up. You're in the same location cohort, so targeting advertisers figured you'd like to know about said cologne too.
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Trevorrrrrrrrrrrrr posted:I think it’s more so a reference to employee output, ie his team is only achieving 5% of what they could Yeah, I think he was being metaphorical; he's been about pushing the limits ever since they got Mario to work on a 2/386, and he was referring to the staff. I couldn't help but read that line in Doctor Manhattan's voice though  "it is the more personal pain of seeing a 5% GPU utilization number in production. I am offended by it." Mister Facetious fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Dec 17, 2022 |
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