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I'm glad I'm not alone here because I've always assumed Bill conti's score was something you're just supposed to hate I have a lot more confusion towards Goldeneye's soundtrack than I do Bill Conti or Michael Kamen's work. Goldeneye has some good points but it has a ton of stuff that's just tonally really odd sounding (Bond racing against Xenia or the whole casino scene) and the general avoidance of Bond motifs up until the tank scene really hurts it for me. I'm glad they figured out what they were doing soundtrack-wise in tomorrow never dies
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Kamen's score is the worst for me because I can't think of anything memorable from it, which is certainly not the case for Conti or Serra.
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Oct 6, 2022 20:03
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Cacator posted:Kamen's score is the worst for me because I can't think of anything memorable from it, which is certainly not the case for Conti or Serra. I always think of the big brass section going off when Leiter is running towards the camera in slow motion with the dumbest tough guy look on his face lol But I know what you mean, aside from that and some of the "This Sanchez guy is evil" Spanish guitars it's not super memorable
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pretty soft girl posted:I'm glad I'm not alone here because I've always assumed Bill conti's score was something you're just supposed to hate I love Goldeneye, but the soundtrack has always been an odd duck. Like, I go back and forth between loving it and hating it. It's unique, that's for sure. I can't think of any other movie like it. Like, what's with all the...best way I can describe it is what sounds like banging of empty oil drums?
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Oct 6, 2022 20:48
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Basebf555 posted:Was James Bond Day always in early October? Not sure where I picked up the habit but I've always thought of November as like the dedicated Bond Month. TBS and then maybe TNT and Spike did November or Thanksgiving Bond marathons. That's where I remember associating Bond with November as a kid.
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thrawn527 posted:I love Goldeneye, but the soundtrack has always been an odd duck. Like, I go back and forth between loving it and hating it. It's unique, that's for sure. I can't think of any other movie like it. I'm 95% sure the end credits song from Goldeneye ("The Mysteries of Love"  ) was the rejected end credits song from Leon, if you compare that score they share a lot of motifs.
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Goldeneye is "The Experience of Love". Mystery of Love is one of the songs Kanye sampled for Fade
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Gaius Marius posted:Goldeneye is "The Experience of Love". Mystery of Love is one of the songs Kanye sampled for Fade D'oh, you're right. But now I want Kanye to sample Experience of Love. Edit: Mystery of Love is the Sufjan song from Call Me By Your Name, I get that mixed up with Goldeneye sometimes Cacator fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Oct 6, 2022 |
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Oct 6, 2022 21:49
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James Bond owns. Good to see fans of the Roger Moore movies, those are good times. I've been meaning to rewatch For Your Eyes Only, I'll keep an ear out for Conti. I definitely enjoy the GoldenEye soundtrack.
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Oct 6, 2022 22:53
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thrawn527 posted:I love Goldeneye, but the soundtrack has always been an odd duck. Like, I go back and forth between loving it and hating it. It's unique, that's for sure. I can't think of any other movie like it. Weirdly, the version of the tank chase music on the score CD is totally different to what's in the film. (I think the movie version is better; Serra's is a bouncy 90s Eurodisco piece that doesn't exactly scream "exciting Bond action sequence". Inevitably, someone has dubbed the Serra score over the actual scene on YouTube if you want to see how it would have turned out.)
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Oct 6, 2022 23:27
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Yeah the Goldeneye soundtrack is the only Bond OST I can think of that's questionable. I guess unless you've count the slide whistle from Man with the Golden Gun
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Big Bizness posted:Yeah the Goldeneye soundtrack is the only Bond OST I can think of that's questionable. I guess unless you've count the slide whistle from Man with the Golden Gun Goldeneye soundtrack has some good moments. Like the love theme for the 10 seconds it plays is legitimately good and enhances the scene. On the flip side, the car mountain scene thing is the worst scoring ever in a Bond movie. License to Kill has some excellent scenes and the score actually detracts from them.because it makes them flat. It's just stupid. On the flip side, Living Daylights is so elevated by what might be Barry's overall best score. Even having the henchman/co-villain bring his own soundtrack that then blended into the score made it amazing.
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The Goldeneye soundtrack isn't able to stand alone, but I really dig the real synthetic, industrial feel it has as a background complement to the movie. And the escape from the library tune is pretty groovy in its own right
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I'm not a big score guy, but I didn't remember Goldeneye standing out at all. Just the slide whistle in Golden Gun and For Your Eyes Onlys Conti score
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I also like 'Whispering Statues' from the soundtrack, the moment where Bond is about to meet up with Janus in Statue Park. It has a foreboding, epic feel that fits the atmosphere of that scene.
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The Sound of 007 documentary is a solid watch. Lots of fun anecdotes and unexpected cameos and everyone tacitly admits that Radiohead's theme song was better than Sam Smith's. Sadly, they never mention Bill Conti, Michael Kamen or Eric Serra. Cacator fucked around with this message at 05:43 on Oct 7, 2022 |
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Gaius Marius posted:I'm not a big score guy, but I didn't remember Goldeneye standing out at all. Just the slide whistle in Golden Gun and For Your Eyes Onlys Conti score The series needs to experiment, though - it can't just ape Barry's 1960s blaring brass until the end of time. Sometimes it works, sometimes not, but whatever else we got George Martin's awesome LALD score from it.
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Speaking of music, a lot of songs have been rejected for Bond movies by a surprising array of artists. People have been gradually finding them over the years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tx-x-sGk9oI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMKPTSE14tY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9fU_oMEQ_8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUpkhWU7CWs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zIbOL8SSCY Amy Winehouse was set to do Quantum of Solace, but her addictions had caused her to crash so bad that she could barely even finish a demo before having to be replaced.
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Oct 12, 2022 20:07
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I knew U2 had written Goldeneye but the Amazon doc has a brief clip of them actually performing it, I had no idea there was a demo publicly released https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnVMCDuV4T4 It's bad, but bet it would've been pretty solid if they had actually tried instead of imitating Tina
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I liked Lorraine Chandler's rejected theme for You Only Live Twice https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NbwIUC_6ggg
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God drat that petshop boys song is really great.
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Kingtheninja posted:God drat that petshop boys song is really great. The original demo is much worse. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4B3vplooro It's unclear if they quit after being told they weren't doing the whole soundtrack or if they just heard a rumor they were being picked and made a song for it, but they took their work and made it into "This Must Be The Place I Waited Years To Leave".
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I really liked how IO used Swan Lee's "Tomorrow Never Dies" during one of the missions in Hitman: Blood Money. Your target is an undercover assassin who pretends to be the singer at a fancy masquerade party. One of the subtler ways of identifying her is by hearing her bungle up the song on stage in a spectacular way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7NsTdenZrg Then you get to hear the original version during the game's end credits. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jKY2G58c3M I still like Sheryl Crow's version more even though I think it's considered to be one of the lesser Bond songs.
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Weyd posted:I still like Sheryl Crow's version more even though I think it's considered to be one of the lesser Bond songs. Her song suffers from a similar problem to "Writing's on the Wall". Both songs are at the absolute limits of what their singer can pull off, and even on the official recording you can hear them straining to hit the high notes. "Tomorrow Never Dies" is much better mostly because Smith went to a range they just couldn't reach without sounding like death.
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The insurance company is never going to believe this.
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Current rumor mill says that Aaron Taylor Johnson is the new frontrunner for Bond. I've seen him in various things and can't say I have any strong feelings one way or another about him. I just watched The Living Daylights and Licence to Kill back to back and my opinions on the movies have completely flipped, I used to prefer Living Daylights as a "proper" Bond movie but after also going through all the Moore's recently I think it suffers from too much of the same unnecessary plot complications as Octopussy and A View to a Kill. Licence to Kill has way more personality and interesting things going on and young Benicio is such a fox. Living Daylights has a significantly better score and soundtrack though.
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Cacator posted:Current rumor mill says that Aaron Taylor Johnson is the new frontrunner for Bond. I've seen him in various things and can't say I have any strong feelings one way or another about him. The last movie I saw him in was Outlaw King and he was alright in that. I really wouldn't mind him as Bond; he's got a good look for the role.
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Even though I know he has done better roles, I still can't get AJT's god awful performance in Godzilla out of my mind.
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Cacator posted:Current rumor mill says that Aaron Taylor Johnson is the new frontrunner for Bond. I've seen him in various things and can't say I have any strong feelings one way or another about him. The original short story it was based on was just the sniper scene and it’s much better. A lot of realistic waiting around and arguing between Bond and his handler while revealing how stressful being a government assassin for years is.
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Cacator posted:Current rumor mill says that Aaron Taylor Johnson is the new frontrunner for Bond. 🤢
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I'm not exactly cravin' him as Bond.
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I don’t know who that is but I do remember being extremely skeptical of Daniel Craig’s casting until he immediately became my favorite Bond when Casino Royale hit. So I’ll reserve judgment on basically anyone they go with.
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man nurse posted:I don’t know who that is but I do remember being extremely skeptical of Daniel Craig’s casting until he immediately became my favorite Bond when Casino Royale hit. So I’ll reserve judgment on basically anyone they go with. Yeah, when he was announced, the only thing I had seen him in was Road to Perdition, where he’s very un-Bond like, so I didn’t like the pick at all. But then I checked out Layer Cake, and said, “Oh okay,” and settled in.
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I’m more anticipating what direction they go with tonally. I think there’s no feasible way to replicate what they did with Craig’s tenure. You’d either have to double down on being grounded and gritty or go back to camp. Craig’s was unique in telling an interconnected story as well. I’d be surprised if they did something like that immediately after.
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I don't know what his real accent sounds like but it'd be funny if his Bond uses the same one he had in Bullet Train He should keep the mustache too
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I always think of him as Kick-rear end. I honestly didn’t know he was a Brit.
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Whoever they wind up casting I think the smart move would be to just have him be James Bond already and go on a mission. Just focus on making it a good movie without trying to reinvent the wheel again. And please for the love of God don't set it in the '60s. I watched No Time To Die for the first time since it's release, not bad overall but fairly flabby and the action felt very going-through-the-motions. Sure looks nice though. I think people were pretty kind to it at the time because we were all so relieved Craig didn't have to go out on Spectre.
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He was the best part of Bullet Train, I hope to god whoever they cast that they don't go back to the same poo poo Craig's Bonds were doing.
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