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Asuron posted:It’s not really in his nature to just do what he’s asked even if he makes a deal and also the story setup of splitting the troupe up/ their flashback being placed before they split up is leading towards someone being taken off the board for sure. - Let Kastro live to eventually deathmatch him when Kastro comes back for revenge. - Promised Gon a match if Gon could win one match in Heaven's Tower, at any time of Gon's choosing. Did the match, taught Gon, let him live (to deathmatch down the line). - Fed Kurapika intel that helped take down some of the Phantom Troupe (in order to deathmatch Chrollo). - Kept his end of the deal with the Phantom Troupe to recruit a Nen exorcist (in order to deathmatch Chrollo). - Promised to be a helpful ally to Gon, Killua, and Biscuit (to pass the time while he waits for the troupe to get him info...which will let him deathmatch Chrollo). He currently has at least two promises running: - He will 100% pay Illumi to hunt him down with the Phantom Troupe...because it's a deathmatch promise. - He promised Hinrigh that he will not go out of his way to cause trouble with the Troupe, but if they find him and cause trouble, he'll respond. He also has at least two instances of going back on his word, or at least potentially messing things up to create an opportunity: - He gave away Illumi's position when they were both hunting Killua and Alluka (in order to let Killua - and Gon - live, to potentially deathmatch them later on). - He considered killing Killua, or Alluka, to inspire Illumi or Killua's wrath (in order to deathmatch them). So yeah, assuming he gets the deathmatch he wants at the end, he seems to be pretty on the up and up. And he tends to go back on his word to...facilitate more deathmatches. Right now, Hinrigh has basically said "Can you chill on your deathmatch a bit while we settle some stuff, and then you will definitely 100% get your deathmatch I will make sure of it." If he sees an opportunity sure, Hisoka will probably take it but I can also see him just being like "Yeah, it's a long boat ride, there's no rush."
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/Shrug Sure, Hisoka could have lied and do whatever he wants, but I felt that part was less about what Hisoka or Hinrigh wanted and more what Togashi wanted: he is moving the Hisoka 'piece' to another part of the board, because he wants to reserve the Spiders vs Hisoka climax together the other succession arc climax, at the end of the Arc, and maybe mix it up with Kurapica and etc who is in the first floor too. Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Dec 13, 2022 |
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Hisoka wouldn't lie, he's a Transmuter.
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Hisoka being on Tier 1 also adds more fuel to the powder keg because once the Troupe find out that's where he is they will make an effort to reach him. And given the bulk head between Tier's 2 and 3 are sealed and presumably the Cha-R family have a secret passage to the upper levels that's rife for conflict finally pitting the troupe against the other mafias.
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the troupe also want to loot tier 1 anyway, just it's a lesser priority compared to dealing with hisoka
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Is Hisoka's nose still made out of silly putty?
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I don’t see why it wouldn’t be.
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If Hisoka is on tier 1, do you think he'll tell Kurapika about the Spiders if (when) they meet? Kurapika is already stressed out of his mind, he might just straight up have a heart attack. Or, for the first time in his life, consider asking for help , finally bringing some of the Zodiacs (and hopefully Leorio) into this mess.
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Scallop Eyes posted:If Hisoka is on tier 1, do you think he'll tell Kurapika about the Spiders if (when) they meet? Kurapika is already stressed out of his mind, he might just straight up have a heart attack. Leorio is busy with all the sick people on the lower decks; I feel like going to Tier 1 would be against his principles. But I can definitely see some of the other Zodiacs getting involved.
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Lpzie posted:Everyone is going to die. Leorio will be the only survivor of the dark continent and become the next chairman (and also our permanent solo protag) he will also be the first person to bring back a blessing instead of a curse, bringing the knowledge of universal good health to all those who have love for their fellow man
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I wouldn't really be ok with Biskey dying here. She's too strong and silly.
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I don’t think Bisky or the other bodyguards will go with the Zodiacs to the actual Dark Continent, so unless they die during the succession war I think they’ll be ok.
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So, did humans come from the DC and is nen a great calamity?
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A new HxH stage play is coming to Japan. https://www.famitsu.com/news/202212/14286417.html Looks like it's covering the Hunter Exam & Zoldyck storylines.
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Turin Turambar posted:A sober reminder that a character can be cool but let's not go gaga over him Oh you know i'm going gaga
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Hunter x Hunter 399: Spanish edition (it helps being Spanish to understand it) Interesting chapter. We don't have any intense action as some may have imagined, just more cool nen abilities. in a way it makes sense now that we have seen this chapter, assaulting a base defended by prepared nen users is an arduous task, even for the Ryodan. Nen allows for nen traps, nen ambushes, nen repelling tactics, etc. In this chapter, we see a hidden power of Hei-ly. Even if they are mediocre nen users, by being part of a big group, they can have very narrow specializations on what to do, like some guy whose power is all about being defensive in their territory, because he knows others can take care of the offense. The condition of only working for Morena's location also helps a lot in giving it power.
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its just funny the higher amount of effort a spider is having dealing with Mafia members compared to Yorkshire Arc also I really like this shot 
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Yeah, it's a cool 'shot'. I wish we had anime of the arc already. :P
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About the guy being the 'organ': There was a mention to the 'organ' in a previous chapter, and it's repeated again. By the context provided here, my theory is: I think they have set up a combo of two abilities: someone has the ability to assign people (one, several?) protected by a third person, the organ. Any damage done to the targets will be transferred to the organ. The organ has an important self-healing ability (it's what he wanted to try out), so that way maybe Morena and the lieutenants are protected. Or because they are all a bit crazy, it could be an ability that sacrifices him in exchange of a very powerful effect Finally, a the current pace, it seems to me the Succession Arc will be the longest one, by far. Just to end the Hei-ly subplot we may need 20 more chapters, if we take in account that surely Morena has an ace hidden and there will be some twist at some point. Then the proper prince battle royale is barely 1/3 done, Kurapica has not met possible allies like Tubeppa or Zhang nor enemies (Kurapica doesn't even know he will be an enemy!) like Tserrie. Then of course the Spiders and Hisoka, and Spiders and Kurapica. Turin Turambar fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Dec 15, 2022 |
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frajaq posted:its just funny the higher amount of effort a spider is having dealing with Mafia members compared to Yorkshire Arc I've only read the synopsis as I won't be giving whichever guy is leaking the raws and causing drama the clicks. But I'd say the big difference is that overall the Yorkshin mafia is a bunch of normal people with a handful of nen users between all the major and minor families. And the troupe were primarily the ones on the offensive and staging a number of ambushes. The Shadow Beasts unfortunately lost their only chance at earning a legitimate kill on Uvo because they are torture freaks instead of Dog and Leech using more lethal agents. And once the rest got mopped up it came down to trying to kill Chrollo who was soloing world class assassins and survived a 2v1 against the Zoldycks while also paying the cash to have the dons assassinated themselves. Simply put they were too good for 99.9% of the actual mafia's agents but it was Kurapika (and Hisoka) that jammed them up because he counter picked into them. Here, we have just 3 of the troupe actively engaging the Heil-ly and while these guys are still complete scrubs. Their base and the assorted abilities are designed so they can have the advantage in defense, another example of specific powers trumping individual strength as well as a group that is synergizing their powers. One guy can transfer damage and the lawyer can escort people out as well as the unspecified ability reinforcing the walls making entering without using the warp maze questionable. But honestly if you change up which spiders enter it's a wrap. Franklin could have just double machinegunned everyone to death right there and been done with most if not all those goons.
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I found a pretty alright version of chapter 399, I assume posting a link is okay so here you go : Chapter 399 at titulo manga Pretty tense chapter, and it shows once again how a well thought out nen ability can win over brute force. Iirc nobunaga is in the middle of the spider strength chart, and he still got dealt with quickly. The nen abilities that togashi is churning out currently are all incredibly interesting, you can tell he has had many years to develop fun abilities.
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We have TCB's as well https://onepiecechapters.com/chapters/5568/hunter-x-hunter-chapter-399
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Good ch! I guess the trade-off for invulnerable objects is they cannot hurt you? I'd love to see a Caves of Qud system for building your own nen ability. Also it looks like whoever is touching further up the arm takes the damage? He was ready by having his fingers down on the table until he was grabbed. Lpzie fucked around with this message at 14:05 on Dec 16, 2022 |
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Lpzie posted:Good ch! I thought before how one could one build a system to design your nen power, and man, too many variables.
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Time to make a HxH TTRPG
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MonsterEnvy posted:We have TCB's as well The word of the day is: Synergy. Seriously love how green these goobers are either revealing their abilities or just generally not understanding how dangerous nen fights are and making all those mistakes. Perigold outed himself to us readers as more than likely some kind of healing-type power, Assassin got his whole damage transfer gimmick revealed but it's still nuts how good emissions is coming out this arc. Lawyer and these "invincible-type" conjured constructs does a little to smooth over my discrepancy on Izunavi's lessons to Kurapika and stuff like Hakoware being immune to damage. But not much, because they basically exude aura to block damage but the little number counter did not have that emphasized. But the logic is there, conditions and a lack of offensive power have two instances of creating "invincible" constructs. All in all I like how Morena's merry band of fuckups have been developed. They really are trying to find their own groove as the dialogue says, but they are like some goofy group of friends and colleagues at the same time they are all a bunch of psycho murderers.
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Lpzie posted:Time to make a HxH TTRPG Speaking on ttrpg terms, what we see on this chapter is that nen is very dangerous, lots (most?) abilities can be designed in a way where the effect applies directly without 'roll to save/resist'. It doesn't matter if your nen level is 4 or 25, if the conditions trigger, the ability can teleport you, or put you in zetsu, or whatever. Having more aura than the opponent won't save you. That's why scouting ahead, being wary of the enemy, doing a first approach to gather info like we see in this chapter is so important. That's also why this panel  they were surprised that the Ryodan is so fearless. Nobunaga didn't know if there was some other trap that could activate upon attack.
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I think having dozens of unknown nen users all in the same place is a really unusual occurrence in HxH terms. Sure we saw it in chimera ant and here but these are very abnormal circumstances. I think Nobunaga and Hinrih are being implausibly reckless here but I'll overlook it because it's entertaining and this is a very unusual scenario.
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No Wave posted:I think having dozens of unknown nen users all in the same place is a really unusual occurrence in HxH terms. Sure we saw it in chimera ant and here but these are very abnormal circumstances. I think Nobunaga and Hinrih are being implausibly reckless here but I'll overlook it because it's entertaining and this is a very unusual scenario. I’d say it’s consistent with the Phantom Troupe’s normal behavior. Remember Uvogin vs. Shadow Beasts? If anything, they’re being a lot more cautious now.
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Sure. What I mean is that if this was a normal situation for them and they regularly handled it like this they would all be dead by now. But it's not normal, it's unusual.
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The ability that requires telling the other person your name, do you think it requires remembering the name?
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I find it interesting how so many of the nen abilities of that gang are pretty niche; it’s an interesting way to take advantage of conditions and having lots of weak members. I have to assume that Kurapika and Chrollo are about the high end of “how many totally different abilities can I have at once by taking advantage of conditions”. These guys on the other hand take advantage of conditions to get niche useful powers despite being low level. I think it’s not unlikely that there’s a nen user in the gang whose specific job it is to just be like “on the condition of being otherwise useless, I make the base walls invincible to damage” and another with “on the condition of being otherwise useless, I can teleport ppl who enter our base” etc etc. It’s very minmaxy, and it makes me wonder just how much of their manpower is dedicated to infrastructure nen powers with no redundancy if they eat it. EDIT: Ah, I bet “organ” refers to their “infrastructure nen” members! FAT BATMAN fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Dec 16, 2022 |
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Yeah i think they are going to game the system by having all damage to any member transferred to the healer or maybe a tank character that is being constantly healed in the base. The tank can have an ability like: all damage to me is non lethal for a few seconds, and it can be healed in that window or something. Togashi has probably come up with a crazier system.
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Interesting that the damage transfer guy yelled at the one person for touching him while they were under attack. Wonder if that is supposed to imply that the damage transfer is automatically done? At the very least it brings to mind that there isn't anything stopping it from being used offensively.
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Lpzie posted:Yeah i think they are going to game the system by having all damage to any member transferred to the healer or maybe a tank character that is being constantly healed in the base. The tank can have an ability like: all damage to me is non lethal for a few seconds, and it can be healed in that window or something.
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Alard posted:Interesting that the damage transfer guy yelled at the one person for touching him while they were under attack. Wonder if that is supposed to imply that the damage transfer is automatically done? At the very least it brings to mind that there isn't anything stopping it from being used offensively. The other interesting part is that She's touching his arm, not his hand. And when he starts bleeding after being unable to offset the headshot on Yokotani he does so from further up his arm. I personally think his ability is not automatic but I think it's to imply he was not trying to get his teammate injured if he took that 2nd knife to the chest because she was holding onto his left arm.
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Alard posted:Interesting that the damage transfer guy yelled at the one person for touching him while they were under attack. Wonder if that is supposed to imply that the damage transfer is automatically done? At the very least it brings to mind that there isn't anything stopping it from being used offensively. The damage transfer is instant - it goes to whatever his hand is touching at the exact moment the attack hits. As far as we know, he can't save it up and discharge it later. That pretty much means it has to be automatic.
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