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Ghost Leviathan posted:Heh, Keen. just found out about his opinion on immigration and "weird robot" may be a charitable description https://twitter.com/id_aa_carmack/status/825344933817098240
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Mister Facetious posted:I prefer to turn off all suggested ads and force advertisers to waste money desperately trying to hawk poo poo i don't care about. The best technique, which I think I learned in this thread, is to just keep selecting "not interested in this ad". Eventually you'll start getting really weird ads, for like Certified Racehorse Semen.
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Dec 17, 2022 22:09
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Agents are GO! posted:The best technique, which I think I learned in this thread, is to just keep selecting "not interested in this ad". Eventually you'll start getting really weird ads, for like Certified Racehorse Semen. You can get it certified??????
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Dec 17, 2022 22:10
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Freakazoid_ posted:just found out about his opinion on immigration and "weird robot" may be a charitable description I mean, he isn't wrong about it being discrimination, I'd say he is wrong to say "discriminate wisely" (unless it's sardonic.) Edit: I read the quote wrong at first. Libertarianism is generally pro-immigration, or was when I was one. It's one of the few things I still agree with the philosophy on. Agents are GO! fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Dec 17, 2022 |
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Dec 17, 2022 22:15
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Silly Burrito posted:You can get it certified??????
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Agents are GO! posted:I mean, he isn't wrong about it being discrimination, I'd say he is wrong to say "discriminate wisely" (unless it's sardonic.) It has always been pro "the right king of immigrant" immigration.
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Dec 17, 2022 22:35
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That's true, libertarians are basically incognito monarchists.
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Dec 17, 2022 22:52
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MrNemo posted:That's true, libertarians are basically incognito monarchists. Kings of their own domain.
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Dec 17, 2022 23:13
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Silly Burrito posted:You can get it certified?????? Let me tell you about horse semen! Horses are bred, and some folks think that breeding is important. How many generations of race winners they have is a big one but there are other traits and you also have to make sure that the horses aren't closely related as well. The super star breeding doesn't happen because horses just get crazy at the bar after a big race, it turns out that the folks who own horses have a lot of disposable income, so there's a whole business attached to the business end of the horse. First they extract the semen by essentially having the horse screw an inflatable horse, with a whole team of assistants around to make sure it happens safely. Then they freeze the semen, ship it around the world, defrost it, make sure it is still viable, and artificially inseminate the mare. There is a whole business around each step in this process, including a business to certify that the semen came from a horse with the characteristics you, the horse semen buyer, are looking for, and it was alive and treated correctly when they shipped it. There's probably a similar system for other types of livestock (and maybe zoo animals?), but I imagine that horses are where the big money is.
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Dec 18, 2022 00:07
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arent the top animals in various rich people animal hobbies so inbred that there's a tiny movement to maybe stop being so inbred?
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Boot and Rally posted:It is location based. People at the party around you kept searching "cologne that smells like rear end" and your cologne, "rear end by Givenchy", came up. You're in the same location cohort, so targeting advertisers figured you'd like to know about said cologne too. How the gently caress did you know what cologne I was wearing? 
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Dec 18, 2022 00:23
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thekeeshman posted:What does that 5% GPU utilization number mean? Does it mean the software is maxing the CPU while only using 5% of GPU capacity? Or that only 5% of customers have a GPU? I assume he meant that Oculus hardware is vastly overspecced for rendering Wii-level metaverse graphics for with their countable polygons.
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Dec 18, 2022 00:23
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StumblyWumbly posted:
Tech Nightmares 5: Let me tell you about horse semen!
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Dec 18, 2022 00:38
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StumblyWumbly posted:There's probably a similar system for other types of livestock (and maybe zoo animals?), but I imagine that horses are where the big money is. Different horse breeds have different rules. Thoroughbreds have to be "live cover", for instance. This means that there is frozen Thoroughbred semen out there that is worthless for track racing, but is sold to people who want to breed (say) quarter horses. tl;dr: People are weird.
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Dec 18, 2022 00:45
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StumblyWumbly posted:Let me tell you about horse semen! I'm sure nobody could possibly take this out of context. Efb..
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Dec 18, 2022 00:48
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Do you call brokers “stud finders”?
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Dec 18, 2022 00:49
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Platystemon posted:Do you call brokers “stud finders”? No those are the things at Costco that every man waves over himself and goes beep beep BEEP BEEP BEEP
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Dec 18, 2022 00:56
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PhazonLink posted:arent the top animals in various rich people animal hobbies so inbred that there's a tiny movement to maybe stop being so inbred? I don't know a ton about that problem, but the horse semen business is big money, so most folks, especially the ones who want to breed race winners, would try to avoid inbreeding. I can imagine that some idiot millionaire has said "Breed them with Horse X, I don't care if they're cousins", and it's probably not great that this is a legal thing to do. I would think the problem is bigger on family farms, where they've had a closed system of 20 horses hanging out for generations. Also pets like the Scottish Fold cats, where its a small breed and a lot of the good pet owners spay them, so the breeding pool must be pretty small.
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Freakazoid_ posted:just found out about his opinion on immigration and "weird robot" may be a charitable description Thats like a pedantic anti opinion. You literally learn nothing about the position he actually holds. E:  Due to many previous rounds of  racehorses are extremely fragile physically and genetically, with Victorian breeding standards and bad incentives still causing horses to have late Hapsburg levels of inbreeding. The live cover rule in theory makes sure that you cant use samples from the #1 racer in a year to be put in every mare.
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Dec 18, 2022 01:42
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Tech Nightmares: Let me tell you about horse semen!
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Barrel Cactaur posted:Thats like a pedantic anti opinion. You literally learn nothing about the position he actually holds. It’s a hallmark of libertarians. They say things like “government should be no larger than necessary”, which may sounds like sage advice to pubescent brains, but it’s a tautology. No one believes that government should be larger “than necessary”. Where opinions differ is on what size is necessary.
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Barrel Cactaur posted:Thats like a pedantic anti opinion. You literally learn nothing about the position he actually holds.
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Racehorses are also bred for, well, racing at the expense of most everything else so they tend to be the epitome of 'thought of ants and died' skittish and fragile in all other circumstances. You don't see those problems with say, Clydesdale horses, the placid giants of the equine world. This is also why artificial insemination is so popular, given the risk of injury while trying to get a couple of horses that may not know each other to mate is considered way too high when they both are valued at millions of dollars.
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IIRC there are some breeds (Trahkener, maybe? Some warmblood )of horses that let you challenge your way in. "This horse looks like an X, moves like an X, and is healthy like an X." "Fine, we'll observe it for a couple of years, then it's an X." That's more like the way people breed working dogs: if it trees coons, it's a coon dog.
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Dec 18, 2022 02:57
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eXXon posted:I assume he meant that Oculus hardware is vastly overspecced for rendering Wii-level metaverse graphics for with their countable polygons. "In production" can often mean the branch of software that is live with end users/players, ie the actual product. From context it sounds like he is calling back to some specific instance where he found hugely unoptimised things that had shipped.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:IIRC there are some breeds (Trahkener, maybe? Some warmblood )of horses that let you challenge your way in. "This horse looks like an X, moves like an X, and is healthy like an X." "Fine, we'll observe it for a couple of years, then it's an X." That's more like the way people breed working dogs: if it trees coons, it's a coon dog. Working dogs they can't afford to inbreed to the point of uselessness for the sake of looks and prestige, at least.
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John Carmack's thing read like just about any Old Tech Manifesto I've seen in my corporate life and that 5% read like it was about organizational efficiency. That also fits in to every other Old Tech Manifesto I've had to read. Where things are different is I don't think Adrian wants to go back technologically to the way things were done in 1997.
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Dec 18, 2022 06:36
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Who's Adrian Carmack?
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Jumping from game dev and VR to AGI is kinda funny tbh He's by all accounts a top coder/engineer but like what's an applied guy going to bring to the table to build a general AI
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I hosed up my Carmacks. They both worked at Id Software. Not actually related. Adrian did art.
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I mean, AGI might be a stretch but AI has really been big in graphics in the past couple of years, at least for specific applications like upscaling and raytracing denoising.
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We've been getting a lot of improvements lately, mostly from using stolen data sets, but improvements nonetheless in learning AI technology. A general AI would need the ability to learn from diverse data sets, in fact a large portion of that AI would be in learning which data to use and which data is unusable. At first that kind of curation would be done by humans, but eventually the AI will have to learn how to do it themselves.
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Just to clarify, it's very likely that whatever ideas Keen have about AGI are a pipedream, but it makes sense a graphics person would veer into some kind of AI.
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yeah i guess my skepticism comes down to specifically targetting AGI, which has become such a loaded term all the recent advances in deep learning are still very much specific techniques for specific tasks maybe carmack is going to be level-headed about what he's aiming for but let's see
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Absurd Alhazred posted:John Carmack left Meta. Here's his Facebook post: A very responsibility avoidant email. "I see so much potential in this tech, but the reason why it has been failing under my watch is because no one can work together good enough under draconian leadership. Good luck, peace out."
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If his specialty and interest is in squeezing processing power out of GPUs, it seems like he'd try to produce more efficient platforms for running AI/NN/ML systems, not necessarily getting into the training and algorithm part.
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I hope we get to the Emperor's new clothes phase of nft sales, where the lineup is just empty squares and the reason is you don't get to see them until they're purchased is "to prevent right-click theft".
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CmdrRiker posted:A very responsibility avoidant email. "I see so much potential in this tech, but the reason why it has been failing under my watch is because no one can work together good enough under draconian leadership. Good luck, peace out." I am probably projecting my own big corporate experiences onto it. I imagined there was this whole corporate hierarchy with a lot of transplanted people. In the big tree of managers and groups, they probably slapped him on to some upper manager as a barnacle and expected him to do meetings and email all day.
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:I am probably projecting my own big corporate experiences onto it. I imagined there was this whole corporate hierarchy with a lot of transplanted people. In the big tree of managers and groups, they probably slapped him on to some upper manager as a barnacle and expected him to do meetings and email all day. I would expect something like that and it seems he didn't realize that his actual job was "team mascot" not "doing stuff".
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Motronic posted:I would expect something like that and it seems he didn't realize that his actual job was "team mascot" not "doing stuff".
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