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Some Guy TT posted:you know i gotta be honest i find the starship troopers is satire argument to be about as convincing as the 300 is satire argument which is to say not very Its because millenial video essayists grew up during the iraq war era which was perfectly encapsulated the over the top vibe of the federation infomercials about signing up to die while being stuck in a forever police action. Now watch average Ukranian propaganda in english about how the russians are a mud people and each ukranian is worth how many russians. A few years from now annoying late zoomers and late alpha are going to hold 300 to the same standard. loquacius posted:Gonna point again at Starship Troopers, a movie which did not do this and yet didn't have fratboys uncritically quoting it for a decade Yeah, a bunch of yahoos didn't latch onto the movie when it came out because it was the end of history so it was looked at as a goofy action movie that couldn't happen. Then 5 years later Osama bin Laden was inspiring dwarf fortress in tora bora.
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McCloud posted:Lmao really, you sure about that Maybe I'm too young but from where I was sitting yes it absolutely did not have anywhere near the level or persistence of fash following that 300 did
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a strange fowl posted:also the world is apparently an alternate universe where tatars became the dominant eurasian power instead of mongols, Isn't this what happened? And Russia was under the Tatar Yolk before unification?
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StashAugustine posted:To be fair there are 100% a lot of people who didn't get it no its satire because a breadtuber told him so. Said breadtuber also has a gigantic page on the genetic and cultural differences between ukranians and russians explaining why the latter are mongol serfs following the fuhrerprinzip while the former are a free, diverse and democratic state that ties romani to lamp posts and marks them with a special dye.
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Tankbuster posted:no its satire because a breadtuber told him so. Said breadtuber also has a gigantic page on the genetic and cultural differences between ukranians and russians explaining why the latter are mongol serfs following the fuhrerprinzip while the former are a free, diverse and democratic state that ties romani to lamp posts and marks them with a special dye. Think you flew too close to the sun on this one You've built such an elaborate and specific narrative that you wrote a post without a single true thing in it
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Lt. Danger posted:I mean Starship Troopers definitely had its share of critics and internet idiots claiming it was fascist too funny you should mention, courtesy of rec.arts.sf.reviews: quote:Ultimately, Verhoeven's motives are irrelevant. He has produced a gargantuan film that fails as an action film or as a social satire. It even fails to be an entertaining bad movie. Avoid "Starship Troopers" at all costs. quote:In the final analysis, STARSHIP TROOPERS is flawed but fun, and, if marketed correctly, will likely make a healthy profit (although it will be interesting to see how the "R" rating affects its ultimate box-office performance). And, while the outline of Heinlein's story and many of the characters remain intact, only echoes of the rich and controversial political subtext have survived. quote:You remember how BATMAN & ROBIN was bad? Well, BATMAN & ROBIN kicked this movie's sorry butt, people. STARSHIP TROOPERS does not succeed as an action movie. It does not succeed as a drama. It does not succeed as a war movie. It does not succeed as a comedy. It does not succeed as a satire. It does not succeed as a parody. It succeeds as being horrible. Terrible. Gut-wrenchingly bad. I wanted to run away from that movie every minute. But I paid my money and I owed it to others to see if the movie got any better. So I stayed. It never got better. Frequently, it did the impossible, and got *worse*. quote:That this undertone will likely be lost to the majority of STARSHIP TROOPERS' audience is not due to subtlety; the film hardly buries this theme, and is often blatant in its representation. It's simply that this message is being pitched in a context where its usage is mostly ineffectual and in some cases even appears apt. While shots of little children cheerfully stomping on insects will cause chuckles, scenes of the troopers' homicidal tendencies being stirred up prior to engaging in battle will have the effect of similarly enticing the us-versus-them, xenophobic mentality of many in the audience. quote:I don't think you get much bang for your money out of this film, unless you are really into special effects or found this sophomoric satire funny or you are a reactionary, then I think you will find many things to like about this empty hearted attempt to put WW11 into an outer space conflagration film. one last one with a big lmao quote:I'm totally confused as to the way that some people are really enjoying this movie. But I do admit it. So, if you're willing to possibly put yourself through torture, go ahead and see it, and decide for yourself if you love it or hate it. I don't know how anyone or any*thing* could love this movie, but hey, to each his own. Feel free to give it a shot. Of course, in the interest of saving your souls, I don't recommend it.
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There is zero chance I am reading all that
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you can tell 300 is not satire because when the same director made a real attempt at subtext and allegory the result was Sucker Punch. he doesn't have it in him.
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Starship Troopers II is pretty weak DTV crap but III is incredible, really learns into the insanity of the GWOT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3sU8NPCYmc
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Cookie Cutter posted:you can tell 300 is not satire because when the same director made a real attempt at subtext and allegory the result was Sucker Punch. he doesn't have it in him. I still haven't seen Sucker Punch but one of these days I'm gonna get blazed and put it on mute while listening to music, it seems perfect for that
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josh04 posted:funny you should mention, courtesy of rec.arts.sf.reviews: are these critics or internet idiots seems like it could go either way
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loquacius posted:Maybe I'm too young but from where I was sitting yes it absolutely did not have anywhere near the level or persistence of fash following that 300 did Wow it's almost as if the political climate has changed in the past 30 years since it was released. If it would have come out today you'd have had "influencers" on YouTube talking up the merits of citizenship via enlistment and the other fash nonsense You're absolutely too young because the kids and teens back in the day loved SST and it wasn't for its cutting satire
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Some Guy TT posted:are these critics or internet idiots seems like it could go either way Movie critics, pretty sure one of them is Roger Ebert
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internet idiots but tbh the main thing i wanted to post was the guy who read the script for alien resurrection and decided that this ship could never sink
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Funny you should say that because all your posts about 300 are from the viewpoint of someone who doesn't remember the 2000s
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Some Guy TT posted:are these critics or internet idiots seems like it could go either way same thing 
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Who among us doesn't fervently wish they could get paid for posting their opinions
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Lt. Danger posted:same thing drat, can't believe this guy genuinely thinks professional film critics and random people on the internet are literally the same people. if only he had clarity of purpose, etc.
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McCloud posted:Wow it's almost as if the political climate has changed in the past 30 years since it was released. If it would have come out today you'd have had "influencers" on YouTube talking up the merits of citizenship via enlistment and the other fash nonsense A 7 year old me watching johnny rico do quake movement to blow up the blue artillery beetle: Wow, this is amazing satire and such a stunning indictment of the cult of heroism that fascism inspires
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does anyone remember the bit in 300 where the religious weirdos who control everything say that the prophecy (delivered via pedo sex slave) says america should let the pansexual muslim degenerates invade but it turns out they have been paid off by a bejewelled black man who says something like "excellent!" then the scene fades until you can just see his grinning eyes and teeth that was wierd imo i guess it was a strong satire of american right wing mania/ just american mania
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i liked when the funny yelling man kicked the ambassador from Zamunda into the pit
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I wish Persian Obama was my boyfriend.
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:Tbh it's really funny that the movie of the month threads never make it past a single page I admit it used to bum me out, but hey I've gotten to see some solid flicks because of it so whatever.
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Nonsense posted:i liked when the funny yelling man kicked the ambassador from Zamunda into the pit honestly the scene works better toned down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNqiSkd1M6k
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uber_stoat posted:I wish Persian Obama was my boyfriend. I don't. Not a fan of piercings.
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McCloud posted:The movie opens with the supposed heroes of the film tossing babies into a eugenics pit. I'm sorry this isn't clear enough for you, I guess 
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when I saw Starship Troopers at 12 I loved it on a pure surface level and we did all unironically quote and talk about it for a few months at school
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300 is badass. Not enough movies are badass.
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McCloud posted:You're right, they should abolish the dome so we can talk about it in every thread again, like old times how would you tell the difference?
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indigi posted:when I saw Starship Troopers at 12 I loved it on a pure surface level and we did all unironically quote and talk about it for a few months at school we did this too (younger I guess) but we watched it dubbed in Turkish. it sounds like normal Turkish propaganda that way.
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leraddude posted:Jim Cameron is on record saying that Avatar/s is very heavily "inspired" by Dune. and yeah the similarities are pretty blatant if you know what to look for Duncan Spiderho
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McCloud posted:The amount of real estate the snyder fandom has in your head is really something Gave no thought to you assholes until this extended meltdown over the pedophile cavill
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Spielberg like Scorsese is no longer good, only films by Zack Snyder could ever hope to achieve such acclaim
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spielberg's last good movie was minority report or catch me if you can (forget which came out first)
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indigi posted:spielberg's last good movie was minority report or catch me if you can (forget which came out first) Isn't his adaptation of West Side Story supposed to be very good?
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