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endlessmonotony
Nov 4, 2009

by Fritz the Horse
I've had several spinal taps, and I got the vomit cannon effect once.

Getting it patched up was an adventure because it needed a very skilled specialist, and with doctors of that caliber you go to them, which resulted in the weirdest set of bouncing from one healthcare facility to another, and I've arrived at the ER with my brain literally leaking out of my skull.

Having had one of those vomiting effects more than once from brain surgeries is why I have so many problems with teeth now.

Spinal taps aren't safe, because it's a doctor pushing a ten inch needle they can't properly see into your back, and it needs to get close to but not hit your spinal cord. I wouldn't say I would never get another one, but I sure as hell am not volunteering for one. Nerve damage sucks rear end too, but, uh, that ship has sailed for me.

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HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
I had a tumor on my spine so the tap had two purposes: First to extract some spinal fluid to see if the cancer spread to inside my spine and second to push some cancer drug straight into my spine as a precaution.
The nausea was because they must have taken too much fluid out so if I stood up or raised my head the fluid around my brain would get thin and I would have my brain come in contact with my skull without the protective fluid. It took weeks for this to balance itself out, plus when they were putting the giant needle into my back it hit a nerve twice. One time it was a small stabbing in my leg and the second time, the comedy poking, felt like they stabbed me in the dick. So I have the occasional phantom dick-stabbing pain. A more interesting person would have made this into a tight five but the premise is only funny if you believe me and of course why would you when I have every incentive to exaggerate for effect. Anyways, I made clear I wouldn't get any further taps done so instead of like two weeks of constant pain it was replaced with like a 3 day infusion of methotrexate, and It would turn into week long hospitalizations because they wouldn't let me leave until it was undetectable in the blood.

Also this is my ACA story, because I quickly hit my yearly maximum and they couldn't kick me off insurance. So the ACA is good!
But also I ran out of sick days because I had to take off an additional 5 weeks of work plus my normal cancer absences so I was on the hook for thousands of dollars while also drastically cutting my income (and then holding the bills until the next year so I would pay my maximum twice. And then getting to extract even more value when Monsanto settled with the roundup users). So the ACA was utter poo poo, why the gently caress do the insurance companies get their pound of flesh here, it's a pittance. A drop in their bucket that I need a lot more than they do!

HootTheOwl has issued a correction as of 21:45 on Dec 14, 2022

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
Well that's my story, thanks I'll take my answer off the air.
Or a Waygu Burger and an order of Curly fries, whichever.

Laterite
Mar 14, 2007

It's Gutfest '89
Grimey Drawer

Laterite has issued a correction as of 08:11 on Dec 15, 2022

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

Is that the same artificial womb story that makes the rounds every six months?

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:

Is that the same artificial womb story that makes the rounds every six months?

But enough about your mother.

School Nickname
Apr 23, 2010

*fffffff-fffaaaaaaarrrtt*
:ussr:
Can't wait to be unironically called "freebirth" by the Iron Womb'd failsons and faildaughters of the rich.

School Nickname has issued a correction as of 17:24 on Dec 15, 2022

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


All spinal cord damage is permanent, the spinal cord does not heal like the rest of the nervous system (or body, for that matter).

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy
all damage is permanent maybe you ve heard of entropy

Osmosisch
Sep 9, 2007

I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."



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lollontee
Nov 4, 2014
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!

Cup Runneth Over posted:

All spinal cord damage is permanent, the spinal cord does not heal like the rest of the nervous system (or body, for that matter).

welll..... it can actually heal from rather extensive damage, but only under very particular conditions. it's more of an informational problem rather than lack of regenerative capacity of neural cells. you know, most organs are amorphous blobs of epithelium, differentiated layer by layer. relative cell placement is non-important, whereas neural tissue is a function of the individual structures of its cells. so to say, spinanal damage can only heal if wired right. same with muscle tissue, which can heal incredibly fast, but not at all if one end of the muscle is shorn

DisgracelandUSA
Aug 11, 2011

Yeah, I gets down with the homies

I about got the vomit cannon from reading all that, so, uhh, thanks for that.

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Yeah I pulled up Wikipedia to get a dummy-level intro to what makes it that some nerve injuries can heal and some can't and I had to take a break bc I started feeling woozy lol.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
some kinds of physical anatomy stuff, doesn't have to even be gory injuries, can send me into syncope. it's completely weird.

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

when my ex-wife was getting an epidural for the birth of our daughter, my job was to hold her shoulders and keep her steady. I swear I heard it scrape on the way in (I couldn’t see it) and I started to wobble. I was totally fine through the rest of the birth. they said they lose a lot of dads at the epidural for some reason.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slægt skal følge slægters gang



Subjunctive posted:

when my ex-wife was getting an epidural for the birth of our daughter, my job was to hold her shoulders and keep her steady. I swear I heard it scrape on the way in (I couldn’t see it) and I started to wobble. I was totally fine through the rest of the birth. they said they lose a lot of dads at the epidural for some reason.

my parents were nurses (now retired) so they saved money by giving us kids the shots themselves. i dont remember which specific vaccine, but based on where we lived i was 4-10 years old so maybe mmr?

anyway i swear i remember the needle scraping against my shoulder blade, which makes no sense cause thats not where it went in

im totally fine with needles & open wounds (as long as the skeleton is intact and not exposed, im ok). i used to donate blood & plan to do it again, but it was still a very visceral "scrape" sensation. tbh i think i made it up

weird tho

aphid_licker
Jan 7, 2009


Yeah I know two specific injury types that'll get me into syncope adjacent territory if someone talks about them to me lol. Weirdly enough I love reading current and historical war medicine, surgery, oncology etc papers. I think it has to feel emotional / personal.

Rhesus Pieces
Jun 27, 2005

I never get woozy with needles but for some reason I fully passed out and apparently started twitching after my first covid shot so they called 911 and dragged me to the ER in an ambulance

Now getting numbing eye drops (or the tonometry test where they touch your eye with the probe, not sure which) on the other hand seems to drop me every time

Kitfox88
Aug 21, 2007

Anybody lose their glasses?
I blacked out while getting an abscess debridement and when taking one of the worst shits of my life when I strained hard, those are the only two times. :thunk: I do get woozy around lots of blood though.

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Toilet Rascal
i used to be absolutely awful with needles as a kid; like stressed to the point of vomiting awful. i got a whole lot better since then, but i still have this weird thing where for some reason if i'm getting blood drawn i'm completely unable to look away, but if it's something being injected then i absolutely can't look. it's really odd

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

I believe there’s science indicating that pain sensations are heightened for injections and blood draws if you watch the needle go in.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Something like one in ten adults have a medically significant fear of needles.

I learned about some interesting approaches to deal with this recently.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zm9THysjHBs

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:

Is that the same artificial womb story that makes the rounds every six months?

this one has better cgi

RandolphCarter
Jul 30, 2005


I laugh every time I get blood drawn.

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

RandolphCarter posted:

I laugh every time I get blood drawn.

Me too because I'm jokerfied

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
When I was a little kid I would run and hide trying to escape blood draw but when I got older, I don't know when, I just didn't care any more.
Never passed out unless you count an infusion of Benadryl.
I did though get hospitalized with the flu because my blood pressure was dangerously low to the point where the immediate care nurse wouldn't let me drive myself to the hospital. She basically barred the door until my wife showed up, because I told her I couldn't afford an ambulance

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


The only time I've ever passed out in my entire life was when I wasn't very healthy in my college years and I fainted at the bottom of the stairs after getting up from the couch. It was a weird experience where I was looking at the wall and then I heard someone moaning in pain and then I realized that it was me and then I realized I was in fact crumpled on the floor now and not standing up. It was very disorienting, first and only time I've experienced the jump cut in consciousness to being somewhere different.

I used to give blood all the time, I get every shot without flinching, the dentist can stick the giant anesthetic needle directly into my gums without bothering me that much. I'm pretty serene medically. On the other hand I can't stand the sight of serious bloody injuries but it's never made me faint, just unable to apply first aid.

I do expect that I'm going to die on the shitter popping a blood vessel in my brain when I'm old but that's just because I'm a goon.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
the only jump cut in conciousness I've ever had is when a car hit me, lasted a few seconds until I found myself on the road with a bunch of glass in me and a broken arm

the first thing I did after getting into an ambulance and getting checked out was cancel my pizza delivery since I had been planning to celebrate the Friday before Christmas with weed and snacks

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


tokin opposition posted:

the only jump cut in conciousness I've ever had is when a car hit me, lasted a few seconds until I found myself on the road with a bunch of glass in me and a broken arm

the first thing I did after getting into an ambulance and getting checked out was cancel my pizza delivery since I had been planning to celebrate the Friday before Christmas with weed and snacks

Should have changed the address to your hospital room

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost
Was listening to a podcast about Bolivar's rebellion and there's a point where he and his troops march over a mountain in winter. Many of his troops brought their families with them including one woman who was 9-months pregnant. Woman walks 250 miles through rain-soaked swampland and up a loving mountain in winter, gives birth in sub-freezing temperatures, and survived to reach the other side with her baby. One of the single craziest endurance stories I ever heard in my entire life.

Anyway, having watched women go through pregnancy, I'm pretty cool with the idea of the iron womb.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Subjunctive posted:

when my ex-wife was getting an epidural for the birth of our daughter, my job was to hold her shoulders and keep her steady. I swear I heard it scrape on the way in (I couldn’t see it) and I started to wobble. I was totally fine through the rest of the birth. they said they lose a lot of dads at the epidural for some reason.

My ex said no epidural and wanted me to distract her from the pain by talking, I completely drew a blank so I started talking about the silmarillion, just a basic rundown of the story. The midwife got the okay to give me a hit of nitrous very fast.

Deep Dish Fuckfest
Sep 6, 2006

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Toilet Rascal
should've gone for harry potter instead

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Biplane posted:

My ex said no epidural and wanted me to distract her from the pain by talking, I completely drew a blank so I started talking about the silmarillion, just a basic rundown of the story. The midwife got the okay to give me a hit of nitrous very fast.

lmao

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


*wife screaming* "...and that's when. Melkor broke off to sin- [wife demanding i shut the gently caress up] -Sing his own song, ushering in the 2nd age and the evils that came with it"

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


It's kind of hosed up that merely several hundred years ago in the existence of a species of hundreds of thousands of years, people could spend entire generations, from parent to child to grandchild, with nothing materially changing in their lives, and now every single person born on this planet must suffer through multiple earth-shakingly significant technological innovations or historical events that change the fundamental fabric of society forever in their lifetime. Change that was once measured in lifetimes is now measured in years. It's a little much!!

Rutibex
Sep 9, 2001

by Fluffdaddy

Cup Runneth Over posted:

It's kind of hosed up that merely several hundred years ago in the existence of a species of hundreds of thousands of years, people could spend entire generations, from parent to child to grandchild, with nothing materially changing in their lives, and now every single person born on this planet must suffer through multiple earth-shakingly significant technological innovations or historical events that change the fundamental fabric of society forever in their lifetime. Change that was once measured in lifetimes is now measured in years. It's a little much!!

not really, your entire world can change very easily for primate tribes. maybe all the animals in the region die, or there is a big flood in a river you need to cross, or the head of the tribe slips on a rock and dies. those are all going to change your world significantly. humans are made to adapt to major changes and just deal

play Rimworld

War and Pieces
Apr 24, 2022

DID NOT VOTE FOR FETTERMAN
a flood isn't going to disrupt your worldview especially if it's something like the Gods cause floods whenever they feel like it

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate


Rutibex posted:

not really, your entire world can change very easily for primate tribes. maybe all the animals in the region die, or there is a big flood in a river you need to cross, or the head of the tribe slips on a rock and dies. those are all going to change your world significantly. humans are made to adapt to major changes and just deal

play Rimworld

Nice try but I said the fundamental fabric of society, not your world, and Rimworld is poo poo at simulating human psychology. Play Dwarf Fortress.

Zodium
Jun 19, 2004

[Cyberpunk Dystopia] Rimworld is poo poo at simulating human psychology. Play Dwarf Fortress.

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uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
"Excitable dwarf," they all said (Ooh-ooh, excitable dwarf)

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