Frosted Flake posted:

In my experience “guns unavailable for fire mission” is understood as “out of ammo” by the requester, but may actually mean anything from firing another mission, to on a fire plan, all the way to maintenance, repositioning or crews need to rest.

Some shell types, like illum or smoke, our allotment is much smaller and we will refuse requests for that reason to preserve them. HE is plentiful enough it’s used to spot for those missions so it’s not a big deal.

It could be, as Ardennes said about logistics, the supply of shells hasn’t been brought up yet that morning, so the gun position is low, but that doesn’t mean the army is out of shells, just that we have to wait for the pallets to get kicked out of trucks before firing a major mission.

A certain amount of ammo on position will be reserved for FPF or Brigade fires anyways, so there too “out of shells” and “out of shells for you” are different things.

tl;dr There’s never enough artillery for the infantry, from their point of view.

Стрелков Игорь Иванович posted:

About "Entry into politics"

Many readers and subscribers "made a stand" concerning my words about, "i'll have to get involved in politics". I started getting letters like "Which party are thinking of?", "joining who?", "starting your own party?" and the like.

Answering by points:
1. Not a single officially registered party sent me an invitation to join them - not in writing, or verbally, or even a hint of it.
2. I have no intention of joining any active party.
3. To make my own party (knowing very well - what kind of demands in that regard our "written in granite" under Surkov legal system makes, servicing "146% controllable democracy") - I especially have no intention (even if I got all the funding and other necessary resources).
4. I am not planning in participating in any election.

So how do I understand "getting involved in politics" in this case?
Here's how - political writing (in my case - military politics, but not just). This is the only sort of "politics" available to me at this moment. And there is no other kind of politics in the government at all.

Well, I also plan to use all my meager strength to help in forming that "third power", the necessity of which I've been talking about for nine years now.
Today, most likely, it has to look something like a club of "furious patriots" (by an astute expression of one of my acquaintances).

And I understand very well that a membership in this club is not in the cards for me (at least not right now). Not even mentioning any sort of "leadership". Since right now I can smother any sort of political activity of this sort with my mere presence. (Contrary to "reading coffee grinds" of many political analysts - I do not receive any support from the top and never have, and most certainly nobody is controlling me from the shadows).

But - even considering all of that - I will support any beginning of this kind. Not only, because "now is the time unlike any other", and not because, that right now, realistically, has huge potential (including, based on development of events, electoral), but because, that it may prove essential to the country "after Putin" - as a "rallying point" for genuine patriotic strength. Emphasizing - GENUINE .- Not "prostitutes with a salary and an armchair" (starting in ER-CPRF-LDPR-SR-"New People" and so on) and/or "having a seat at the table" in a select club or at "Tsargrad".

And real patriots exist. And they have resources. That means they need a platform.

Those are my political plans for the near future.

P.S. Of course this all speculation, since there's a war, which I am very likely to end up in (including as a conscript), and the saying "You can't escape from fate and prison" - shouldn't be forgotten - for me it's more than probable. Not to mention if am rich in anything it's mortal enemies - who "thirst for my blood" quiet literally.

lobster shirt posted:

all artillerymen sleep in a big giant bed together

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Out of curiousity, because artillery functions so far behind friendly lines, how do artillery crews rest? Do they sleep near the guns or are they transported elsewhere?

Lostconfused posted:

That part might be him being too dramatic again. There's probably not enough shells for Russians to fire as much as they would like to. Would be interesting to see if the production did increase for them recently though and if that part about artillery firing twenty thousand times per day again is accurate.

quote:

The next item is artillery. Normal defence is built on artillery and around artillery. If there is artillery called from the front line in real time, then there is defense. No artillery – no defense. Rifle infantry will not hold the defense for a long time. The Armed Forces of Ukraine mastered their artillery for 7 years, the Russian army relaxed its artillery as best it could, filling the paths with gravel on the firing ranges and kicking the “stupid Donbasians” for not doing this. And, of course, stopping any attempts to automate the work of artillery with the help of appropriate software. “Not allowed”. We see the result. Monstrous lunar landscapes in the fields, where there is not a trace of Ukrainian fortifications. Echelons of ammunition flew away to nowhere under the approving bleat of propagandists and “experts” like Shurygin. And in the end, artillery depots near Izyum, handed over to the enemy. Well done!

The result at the moment (which the Russian media and biased bloggers are diligently trying to cover up with stories about how the loving positions are taken out by 57-mm anti-aircraft guns and how cool it is to burn through the life of tank barrels with constant firing from closed positions) is a monstrous shell hunger in artillery. Air strikes from afar with unguided 80-mm rockets from a pitch-up (because if you fly closer, they will shoot you down) are also something only tickles a well-entrenched enemy, although it can look very impressive. Pew pew pew! Hooray! What a shot! And when the smoke settled – another plowed field. And the remnants of cannon artillery shells are spent, of course, on these same mini-Verduns throughout the contact line, which the Russian army diligently breeds one after another, grinding down infantry at them. Did the artillery gain radically more “eyes” in the air after 10 months? No. Did the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation bring the artillerymen enough autumn and winter camouflage nets for their guns? No. And winter is ahead. It will no longer be possible to hide the guns in the forests – the forests are bare, and then more snow will fall and in general, every step will be visible from the air. And the enemy with the UAV is doing well. Even considering losses. On our side, the stupid morons who wasted the ammo on plowing the fields decided to replace the six-inch projectiles with VOGs [greandes] dropped from copters. With the motivation “Well, hohols do it!”

crepeface posted:

https://twitter.com/thetimes/status/1604771230816550913?s=20&t=sYQf9eY6rpMxkGJyJZivLw

omg lmao the EU cannot catch a break with gas

Ardennes posted:

I would say camouflage is more of an issue but that probably is more the militia getting the short end of the stick.

ПриZрак Новороссии posted:

Frosted Flake posted:

Read any infantry accounts from the world wars and its the infantry bitching about not enough shells. Understandably, they’d prefer the enemy are shot off their position. However, the reason that doesn’t happen is not because there’s not enough shells so much as tubes, time, and other less exciting issues like surveying and siting new gun positions.

Ardennes posted:

Also “even considering (their) losses” undercuts a lot of his argument here. Arguably, it is indeed hard to blast an enemy out of fortified positions but as FF said artillery isn’t magic but if the enemy is taking heavy losses, that probably means someone his doing their job right.

In addition, it very well may not be a worthy use of a barrage to take out 1-2 soldiers rather than just drop a grenade on them.

I would say camouflage is more of an issue but that probably is more the militia getting the short end of the stick.

His point about helicopters is an old saw.

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But you loving can’t. Because the hands are coming from the rear end, and the rear end is instead of the head.
Because hohols have learned over the years how to properly terrorize our motherfuckers with these grenade drops. They have tactics, they have a system for applying it. Starting with a competent choice of a site that is optimal for dumping terror, identifying convenient targets and ending with a concentration of forces – when 4-6 copters arrange a “carousel” over some unit for several hours, bombarding it with these VOGs or makeshift bombs. And you fuckers just order the “Mavics”, for which the people have scraped together the money, hoping that they will conduct reconnaissance and adjust artillery. No, let’s bomb. Immediately! Tomorrow! And people run to carry out your loving order, headlong, without really working out either tactics or reconnaissance of targets. And they are trying to intimidate the army of moles with 30-mm little shits dropped from copters. And hohols jam these “Mavics” and shoot them down for their own pleasure, because they are NOT RETARDS, THEY ARE LEARNING. And the artillery remains not only with meager ammo but also without eyes.

Lostconfused posted:

Yeah, sewing camouflage nets is of the things women in donetsk are doing now too.

_{(from t.me/ghost_of_novorossia/8800, via tgsa)}

Edit: Although these photos are from St. Petersburg. I think there's same type of volunteer activity in donetsk though too.

GlassElephant posted:

I had cut the next paragraph, but his main complaint about UAV grenade drops was that command had ordered it done after seeing Ukrainian videos and they lost a bunch of critical observation UAVs from their inexperience.

GlassElephant posted:

critical observation UAVs from their inexperience.

Malleum posted:

the fs2000 is sick as hell and more guns should be that bulbous and weird looking imo

it and the groza should have been the warfighter aesthetic of the 21st century rather than another hundred years of ars and aks

ContinuityNewTimes posted:

I once ripped a horrible nasty fart in the presence of the archbishop of canterbury

mawarannahr posted:

this is like the polar express where the boy goes to visit Santa Claus in the North Pole https://twitter.com/zelenskyyua/status/1605443014847086592

mlmp08 posted:

One of the extremely stupid charts guys has an update:

https://twitter.com/volodymyr_d_/status/1605199916519018497?s=46&t=4Oy1BGeyL2rlnrwa1QTJ7Q

E: like what the hell is this guy doing

https://twitter.com/volodymyr_d_/status/1605199927927259136?s=46&t=5VUlazuZEY3LotikXNI2DA

Lostconfused posted:

https://twitter.com/McFaul/status/1605197116799713280

Cao Ni Ma posted:

drat after all this time trying to find evidence that russia did it they didnt find any? Maybe they should look at it from another angle

Cpt_Obvious posted:

...China.

mawarannahr posted:

this is like the polar express where the boy goes to visit Santa Claus in the North Pole https://twitter.com/zelenskyyua/status/1605443014847086592

Nonsense posted:

Russians have crank start in front automobiles, they don’t need luxury goods, they need a color revolution.