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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/ray_gavreel/status/1604862443850588160 Very good things are happening in the Philippines, and I look to hear more about them, folks
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Dec 20, 2022 12:13
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Orange Devil posted:That thread says China is on target for 2060 full decarbonization. the government plan is carbon neutral not decarbonization
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Dec 20, 2022 13:04
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what's the difference
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Dec 20, 2022 13:06
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my understanding is that carbon neutral is not adding anymore carbon to the atmosphere and decarbonization is emitting less carbon than you sequester. carbon neutral slows/stops the damage from getting worse from what we’ve already hosed up and decarbonization is repairing the damage. not that I’m criticizing China for not having a decarbonization plan ready to go but even at our best efforts the climate is still going to hell thanks to capitalism
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Dec 20, 2022 13:13
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Truga posted:what's the difference "carbon neutral" means that if you take your CO2 (and CO2-equivalent) emissions, and then subtract from that number the amount of CO2 that you are removing* from the atmosphere, the number is "net zero" "decarbonization" means turning that number negative such that your overall emissions are going down (to be clear, you would also reduce your emissions when pursuing "carbon neutral", but only as much as you would need to get to "net zero") if one were pursuing decarbonization, one would hit carbon neutral along the way ____ * there's a big asterisk on this because of the concept of "carbon offsets", or "making up" for CO2 emissions with renewables, rather than the literal interpretation of taking CO2 out of the air
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Dec 20, 2022 13:14
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gradenko_2000 posted:* there's a big asterisk on this because of the concept of "carbon offsets", or "making up" for CO2 emissions with renewables, rather than the literal interpretation of taking CO2 out of the air lmfao figures
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Dec 20, 2022 13:16
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this allusion meant posted:hydrogen to electricity rate is fine. what's much less fine is natural gas to hydrogen to electricity, or electricity (ideally excess renewable production) used for hydrolysis of water to hydrogen to electricity. hydrogen to flame to electricity is also quite bad but that's why no one bothers with it Hydrogen use case is as a by product of offshore wind (cooling systems already do hydrolysis but the hydrogen is just vented off) and also as an alternative type of battery for wind and solar when demand on the system is low but generation is high you can bypass to producing hydrogen rather than knocking off turbines or cells. Also like in the UK Scotland is the best area for wind but has little demand, reconfiguring the grid to get the generation from the shetlands down to London is a logistical nightmare, so those farms could just be dedicated to producing hydrogen which is then shipped to London or wherever
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Dec 20, 2022 13:19
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this is getting a little into the weeds but a fundamental problem with climate change action/CO2 emissions is that building renewables, by itself, isn't enough - if the entire power needs of Country X was 100 gigawatts, and that was all coming from oil/coal/gas, and then they built 100 gigawatts of solar/wind/hydro (or even nuclear, and handwaving-away reliability/spot-capacity issues), that wouldn't actually get them to cut their emissions, because the renewables just end up attenuating market prices for the oil/coal/gas Country X would simply sell their fossil fuels if they produced it themselves, or would continue to burn SOME fossil fuels, and using renewables as a backstop. if Fusion Power ever became A Thing, the country that invented it would simply use it to free up domestic fossil fuel consumption in favor of exports (or domestic uses of fossil fuels for anything that can't draw from the fusion-powered grid, like cars) if you want to curb, or even reduce, the rate that we're flinging CO2 into the air, we have to be actively dismantling fossil fuel capacity, production, and infrastructure
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Dec 20, 2022 13:29
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i figured that was a part of the plan that nobody's following but i guess even that's optimistic lmao
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Dec 20, 2022 13:32
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Yeah more plentiful energy means cheaper energy means more demand for energy as more business models become viable. See also the cancer that is cryptocurrency.
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Dec 20, 2022 13:32
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Truga posted:i figured that was a part of the plan that nobody's following but i guess even that's optimistic lmao yeah hence why when I looked at the power generation numbers I was like “oh there was never any hope after all was there”
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Dec 20, 2022 13:33
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gradenko_2000 posted:this is getting a little into the weeds but a fundamental problem with climate change action/CO2 emissions is that building renewables, by itself, isn't enough - if the entire power needs of Country X was 100 gigawatts, and that was all coming from oil/coal/gas, and then they built 100 gigawatts of solar/wind/hydro (or even nuclear, and handwaving-away reliability/spot-capacity issues), that wouldn't actually get them to cut their emissions, because the renewables just end up attenuating market prices for the oil/coal/gas yep.
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Dec 20, 2022 13:36
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also we don't even have the manufacturing capability, globally, to develop new wind, solar etc at a rate to replace carbon. Europe keep trying to use their own factories but keep having to go cap in hand to China who are, rightfully, focusing on themselves. More oil, gas, coal will need to be made to facilitate the production of renewables. 
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Dec 20, 2022 13:59
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Kaveman posted:Hydrogen use case is as a by product of offshore wind (cooling systems already do hydrolysis but the hydrogen is just vented off) and also as an alternative type of battery for wind and solar when demand on the system is low but generation is high you can bypass to producing hydrogen rather than knocking off turbines or cells. I thought the Tory has shut down new turbine building because NIMBY landlords.
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Dec 20, 2022 14:14
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gradenko_2000 posted:this is getting a little into the weeds but a fundamental problem with climate change action/CO2 emissions is that building renewables, by itself, isn't enough - if the entire power needs of Country X was 100 gigawatts, and that was all coming from oil/coal/gas, and then they built 100 gigawatts of solar/wind/hydro (or even nuclear, and handwaving-away reliability/spot-capacity issues), that wouldn't actually get them to cut their emissions, because the renewables just end up attenuating market prices for the oil/coal/gas It's really true? New energy sources won't affect the easy oil and gas drilling in Saudi, but if you can push safe nuclear electricity price low enough to suppress the expensive oil extraction such as deep sea and fracking. I understand the argument of renewable energy development won't affect the coal mining of countries that only have coal resource, such as India. It would be stupid for India to stop burning coal. Just for national security reason they need to rely on decent amount of demotic energy source. Also same reason China won't stop the coal plants.
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Dec 20, 2022 14:24
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unwantedplatypus posted:The Americans did a lot of warcrimes the US used to do a lot of war crimes, they still do, but they used to, too
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Dec 20, 2022 14:42
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gradenko_2000 posted:yeah how is bongbong marcos doing so far
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Dec 20, 2022 14:46
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gradenko_2000 posted:this is getting a little into the weeds but a fundamental problem with climate change action/CO2 emissions is that building renewables, by itself, isn't enough - if the entire power needs of Country X was 100 gigawatts, and that was all coming from oil/coal/gas, and then they built 100 gigawatts of solar/wind/hydro (or even nuclear, and handwaving-away reliability/spot-capacity issues), that wouldn't actually get them to cut their emissions, because the renewables just end up attenuating market prices for the oil/coal/gas Lol in Canada were building "modular reactors" for the energy needs of the oilsands
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Dec 20, 2022 14:57
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A lot these nuclear energy projects are secretly military search. Like the only nuclear reactor project UK is working on is some kind of mini nuclear plant. And they are paying France and China to build their actual civilian nuclear plants. Also the US nuclear fusion project that made news recently. If you are using laser to initiate fusion, you are never going to make a cost efficient power plant. However all these search data of laser hitting "controlled nuclear bomb" state let you design new bomb without violating the nuclear test ban.
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Dec 20, 2022 15:24
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lobster shirt posted:how is bongbong marcos doing so far gradenko_2000 posted:I haven't been posting about domestic Philippine politics that much but the current issues are: since this post: * the national budget has passed Congress and has been signed by the President, including all the "confidential funds" and a massive boost to the funding of the anti-communist task force * the "sovereign wealth fund" bill was declared by Marcos to be a high-priority bill, which let it sail through the lower House in a day. It's on its way to the Senate, where it'll probably also pass (there's just one non-right-wing Senator in the upper chamber) * mandatory ROTC also passed through the lower House already, and will probably be taken up by the Senate in the new year * you probably already know this but Marcos lifted outdoor masking in October, then all masking in November. Lots of people still wear masks as a personal decision, but at times it gets down to maybe 50-50 in a crowd. COVID's probably going to surge after Jan 2 * inflation was at 8.0% as of November, the worst since the Great Recession, and there's no response to any of it it's just mostly bad all around
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Dec 20, 2022 15:25
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gradenko_2000 posted:* mandatory ROTC also passed through the lower House already, and will probably be taken up by the Senate in the new year that's interesting. do you think that'll drop enlistment rates if everyone gets a taste of the officer life? is there as big a split between the two military castes as in the states? i'd assume so
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Dec 20, 2022 21:20
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whats the point of developing new nuclear bombs when you already have thousands of them? is there something you can destroy with a newer design you couldn't with the old ones?
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Dec 20, 2022 21:31
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Mantis42 posted:whats the point of developing new nuclear bombs when you already have thousands of them? is there something you can destroy with a newer design you couldn't with the old ones? obama's overhaul of the arsenal in 2014-ish was said to make it more reliable long-term and have cheaper upkeep but it's just an employment program and MIC handout imo i still remember a tom clancy book talking about how russia's arsenal is completely nonfunctional and just has degrading rockets sitting in flooded silos across siberia, so it'd be no biggie to kick off armageddon with little retaliation. fingers crossed!!
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Dec 20, 2022 21:50
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probably improved precision/targeting, maybe missile defense evasion - i know russia and north korea have heavily developed icbms that can (or are intended to at least lol, not an icbm expert here) defeat missile defense systems.
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Dec 20, 2022 22:10
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Mantis42 posted:whats the point of developing new nuclear bombs when you already have thousands of them? is there something you can destroy with a newer design you couldn't with the old ones? Yeah it's all targeting and missile defense stuff, maybe something to make the fallout less deadly. You know, working towards making tactical nukes a possibility. That's their end game
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Dec 20, 2022 22:36
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Plunder, why not make sure for mayhem on the high seas and general piracy charges while you're at it
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Dec 21, 2022 03:05
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https://twitter.com/_yaohsi_/status/1605346254279495686
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Dec 21, 2022 04:53
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unlike the rest of China, who all instinctively knew Mandarin I guess? not sure what the point is there.
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Dec 21, 2022 05:09
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Xiamen and Fuzhou are not Chinese and must be freed by the USMC post haste.
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Dec 21, 2022 05:25
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im pretty sure no chinese besides the upper class knows Mandarin before the founding of PRC
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Dec 21, 2022 05:32
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a lot of dialects are basically mandarin. like a scottish person learning american english or something. sichuanese but taiwanese is pretty far away. like spanish person learning english and mandarin had a lot of native speakers forever  the mandarin bit includes the dialects that I'm thinking are 'basically mandarin'. idk wtf year this map is supposed to be with the populations and china has a bunch more languages than this Antonymous has issued a correction as of 05:37 on Dec 21, 2022 |
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Dec 21, 2022 05:34
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Why were the Japanese teaching Mandarin and Cantonese? Training spies? Translators for the war?
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Dec 21, 2022 09:53
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haven't read the source book but it sounds like made up bullshit
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Dec 21, 2022 10:43
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Truga posted:50% is pretty much standard in new construction all over the world, how the hell are yanks still at 30 because we don't build infrastructure the average age of of us power generation plants has been unchanged (at 29 years, so the average power plant is only barely from the 90s) for over a decade now things are only replaced as they break, not as part of any modernization efforts
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Dec 21, 2022 11:33
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American infrastructure is a monument to decay
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Dec 21, 2022 13:39
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Goddamit China was doing so good for so long and now it's just speed running the same path as the US https://www.sixthtone.com/news/1011953/as-couriers-fall-sick%2C-chinese-cities-ask-residents-to-fill-in?source=channel_home
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Dec 21, 2022 14:00
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Benagain posted:Goddamit China was doing so good for so long and now it's just speed running the same path as the US nobody could of forseen this
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Dec 21, 2022 14:37
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It's okay if your packages get delayed a few days jeez. I kind of get annoyed when I read Chinese forum posts complained about hard to find fever medicines and cough medicine in the last few weeks. These loving Chinese, they have had convenience of getting easy 1 day delivery for so long they have completely forgotten the dark art of prepping. I have stashed cabinet full of emergency medicines and other poo poo in case of power outage since early 2020. When that Texas icestorm power outage happened, I got my water filters and propane cockwares. stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 14:52 on Dec 21, 2022 |
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Dec 21, 2022 14:49
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Pfffff delivery, you can't even find that stuff on the shelves of a drug store over here.
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https://twitter.com/jenniferzeng97/status/1605022829661003776
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