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Phlegmish posted:How are you supposed to deal with Ragers as a Zealot with an Eviscerator? Nothing I do seems to stun them, so I just trade hits and hope for the best. Turns out that doesn't really work when you're fighting three of them plus a horde. Rev it and smack them. They'll be stunned while you're sawing into them.
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Dec 22, 2022 01:10
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Grognan posted:rev it up and chop in half? This, assuming you’ve taken the feat that renders you immune to attack stagger. Pulling out the Braced Agripinaa and/or throwing a stun grenade at your feet as a precursor are also good options.
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Dec 22, 2022 01:13
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Phlegmish posted:How are you supposed to deal with Ragers as a Zealot with an Eviscerator? Nothing I do seems to stun them, so I just trade hits and hope for the best. Turns out that doesn't really work when you're fighting three of them plus a horde. Pull out your flamer and waste them along with every other enemy in a 20m radius.
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Dec 22, 2022 01:13
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Magitek posted:This, assuming you’ve taken the feat that renders you immune to attack stagger. Pulling out the Braced Agripinaa and/or throwing a stun grenade at your feet as a precursor are also good options. I take it this feat is recommended, then? Anyway, I should apparently be using my special action much more often, I've kind of been neglecting the revving. I didn't realize it made that much difference. Is it best followed up with a heavy attack, to maximize the extra damage?
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Dec 22, 2022 01:23
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Phlegmish posted:How are you supposed to deal with Ragers as a Zealot with an Eviscerator? Nothing I do seems to stun them, so I just trade hits and hope for the best. Turns out that doesn't really work when you're fighting three of them plus a horde. block and/or push. they get a ton of stagger resist from attacks in the front while they're attacking. don't try to stuff their attacks with your own melee.
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Dec 22, 2022 01:28
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Teams should absolutely be sticking together, on the other hand, that plasteel ain't gonna find itself.
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Dec 22, 2022 01:37
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Phlegmish posted:I take it this feat is recommended, then? the light attack head bob with the chain running should kill them, the heavy attack activated will toss the pieces in an aesthetically pleasing way and also kill them
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Dec 22, 2022 01:39
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Red Mundus posted:Agreed. Bosses with shields are a perfect example of this. Nowhere does the game mention that shooting the shield is a bad idea so you get pubbies shooting it and getting shotgunned to death without ever really understanding why. So I’ll be the first to gripe about the obtuse mechanics that they never explain but: 1) your shots make a bouncing-off-armor TINK noise 2) your crosshair flashes blue instead of red 3) it’s a loving giant shield. Like, if you need “shooting shield does little damage” explained I don’t think a better tutorial is going to help you.
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Dec 22, 2022 01:43
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the entire last week all missions with pub zealots was them just running off on malice and heresy no fucks given about teamplay or coherency toughness regen. So annoying.
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Dec 22, 2022 01:49
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Cyrano4747 posted:So I’ll be the first to gripe about the obtuse mechanics that they never explain but: Also there are constant voice barks from the characters saying "DON'T SHOOT THE ARMOUR!" when you shoot the shield. Like, if people are so oblivious that they can't grasp this, I think there is no tutorial which would make them understand it.
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Dec 22, 2022 01:51
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Red Mundus posted:Agreed. Bosses with shields are a perfect example of this. Nowhere does the game mention that shooting the shield is a bad idea so you get pubbies shooting it and getting shotgunned to death without ever really understanding why. I mean...trial and error? You shoot the shield, and see the meter barely move. Gotta put two and two together.
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Dec 22, 2022 01:52
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Cyrano4747 posted:So I’ll be the first to gripe about the obtuse mechanics that they never explain but: I think they meant the final boss that has the energy bubble shield, not the ogryn bulwarks with the big metal tower shield. It can be hard to tell how much damage you're doing to that guy's shield because the shield's health bar is moving from all your allies' attacks too.
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Dec 22, 2022 01:55
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Grognan posted:the light attack head bob with the chain running should kill them, the heavy attack activated will toss the pieces in an aesthetically pleasing way and also kill them I tried it out in the Psykhanium (on Malice difficulty) and the revved-up heavy attack is not one-hitting the Rager.   Is my Eviscerator not good enough? Damage is almost maxed out, but the Shredder stat is only at 53%, I guess that might the problem. 
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Dec 22, 2022 01:57
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Mzbundifund posted:I think they meant the final boss that has the energy bubble shield, not the ogryn bulwarks with the big metal tower shield. It can be hard to tell how much damage you're doing to that guy's shield because the shield's health bar is moving from all your allies' attacks too. They are for sure referencing this, bulwarks don't murder you with shotguns if you shoot their shields
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Dec 22, 2022 02:02
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Phlegmish posted:I tried it out in the Psykhanium (on Malice difficulty) and the revved-up heavy attack is not one-hitting the Rager. It might be the Shredder stat, yeah, that determines how much damage the rev adds. But I get by without one-shotting them; the stun is long enough that you can just rev it again and finish them with the second attack.
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S.J. posted:Honestly the dog mode sucks poo poo. They could've had it spawn more of almost any other enemy type and it would've been more interesting. Yeeeeep. Was on earlier. Dog mode was present on four of the twelve available maps, lights out was (as usual) on none of them, and if you don't like dog mode too fuckin bad, because the dog mode global condition has been on for a few days now, so it's actually dog mode on every map all the time, and oops all dogs on those particular four. Meanwhile, there was exactly one Heresy map. C'mon, Fatshark. Seriously?
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Is there any real difference between the Rashad and Antax combat axes?
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Mzbundifund posted:I think they meant the final boss that has the energy bubble shield, not the ogryn bulwarks with the big metal tower shield. It can be hard to tell how much damage you're doing to that guy's shield because the shield's health bar is moving from all your allies' attacks too. Oh sorry yeah, I meant the assassination target bosses with the yellow bubble not the bulwarks. Jimbot posted:Is there any real difference between the Rashad and Antax combat axes? Antax has cleave and the Rashad has finesse (faster attacks) also the push attack follow-up is different. Antax I like more because when testing them, finesse didn't really make that big of a difference I found over cleave.
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Phlegmish posted:How are you supposed to deal with Ragers as a Zealot with an Eviscerator? Nothing I do seems to stun them, so I just trade hits and hope for the best. Turns out that doesn't really work when you're fighting three of them plus a horde. https://i.imgur.com/uHnvHRf.mp4 (and also be a veteran lol)
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Jimbot posted:Is there any real difference between the Rashad and Antax combat axes? 
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Phlegmish posted:How are you supposed to deal with Ragers as a Zealot with an Eviscerator? Nothing I do seems to stun them, so I just trade hits and hope for the best. Turns out that doesn't really work when you're fighting three of them plus a horde. Agripinaa Braced Autogun is your maniac-armor killing friend.
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Jimbot posted:Is there any real difference between the Rashad and Antax combat axes? Antax is slower and harder hitting. it also has a (AFAICT useless?) straight stab as specialattack. its pushattack is a diagonal top left to lower right slash that's great for cleaving and triggering headshot/weakpot/oneshot effects. Rashad's specialattack is an armor-piercing uppercut swing with the back spike. but its pushattack is a flat horizontal whack with the flat of the axe with bad damage and not so much stagger that irs worth doing instead of a second push.
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Cease to Hope posted:Antax is slower and harder hitting. it also has a (AFAICT useless?) straight stab as specialattack.
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Is there any kind of condition to get an Emperor's Reward drop on mission completion? I don't think I've had anything since hitting 30. And is there any way to get more crafting materials than I am currently? I grab all I can (open all the crates) but it's a trickle. They are shared to the team at level completion right? I don't have to race them to the pickups?
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BizarroAzrael posted:Is there any kind of condition to get an Emperor's Reward drop on mission completion? I don't think I've had anything since hitting 30. There's a weekly limit of 20 gifts, IIRC. No, unless you mean diamantine, in which case more will be around on higher difficulties. It's shared.
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SplitSoul posted:There's a weekly limit of 20 gifts, IIRC. Yeah, I figured Diamantine was gated to higher difficulties as I've started new characters. Unfortunately I've hit a wall since I can't improve my gear much with the resources I have.
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Phlegmish posted:I take it this feat is recommended, then? Rev it again. You can stunlock everything that isn't a boss by chainsawing them repeatedly
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Phlegmish posted:How are you supposed to deal with Ragers as a Zealot with an Eviscerator? Nothing I do seems to stun them, so I just trade hits and hope for the best. Turns out that doesn't really work when you're fighting three of them plus a horde. Rev and go for body shots with a heavy attack, that'll stun lock them. Ideally you Rev, charge a heavy attack, and then use your charge and release your heavy attack to just lightsaber right through them. E: yeah the low shredder stat is killing you here I think. For killing ragers iirc it might be more important than your actual damage bonus. S.J. fucked around with this message at 03:03 on Dec 22, 2022 |
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That said the "can't be interrupted" feat for Zealot feels like BiS; I've had that stagger animation when you lose all toughness happen so loving much as Ogryn, ruining my tempo every time.
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toasterwarrior posted:That said the "can't be interrupted" feat for Zealot feels like BiS; I've had that stagger animation when you lose all toughness happen so loving much as Ogryn, ruining my tempo every time. IMO it is, I always use it.
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Jerkface posted:The powersword is awesome but its the most OP at like malice and below It's the best weapon because it doesn't give me carpal tunnel syndrome
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I feel naked without the backup of holy revenant, I just walk up to a crowd of 30 gunners and let them take the first hit when I'm feeling low enough for a heal and go to town on them, giving me a nearly full HP restore which will usually last me another 90 seconds easily. Zealot feels like it has the most variety in their viable melee weapons, combat knife, lot of axe varieties, maul, heavy sword, eviscerator, thunderhammer if you praise the emperor enough.
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toasterwarrior posted:Agripinaa Braced Autogun is your maniac-armor killing friend. I found a pretty good one. Any thoughts from anyone on perks and blessings to go for? Also why does the consensus seem to be the Agripinaa and not the other braced autos?
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Purgatus staff is growing on me for higher difficulties, though I think part of that is I actually use my melee weapon more to block instead of just shooting the voidstrike nonestop, infinite ammo flamethrower is pretty decent and unlike the zealot you still have a long range option for dealing with snipers/bombers/elite gunners. Also you can easily proc your 10% chance to brainburst on the flamethrower and that makes it easy to have full stacks for peril resist and pop the occasional elite head. Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Dec 22, 2022 |
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It's probably not the most Efficient way to do the objective but I can't resist using a revved chainsaw on the eyeball objectives, it feels very doom 2016 glory kill
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RBA Starblade posted:Are stances actually used anywhere?
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Nehru the Damaja posted:I found a pretty good one. Any thoughts from anyone on perks and blessings to go for? Also why does the consensus seem to be the Agripinaa and not the other braced autos? IMO take vs Maniacs and Flak on it, reload speed and vs Unyielding are good too. For blessings, I'm sure Crucian Roulette isn't actually working as intended (it's OP otherwise) but it's deffo BiS, and of the remaining Blessings I would probably take Hit and Run just so to minimize getting shot the gently caress up by surviving enemy shooters while you're laying down fire. Make no mistake, the Agripinaa is a close/medium-range weapon; if you want actual precision, take a revolver or MK12 lasgun. Re: Agripinaa, I noticed that even with the lower DPS due to slower fire rate, the bullets have surprisingly brutal stagger/knockdown. Even if they get knocked on their asses instead of dying, I'm fine with that since a stunned elite/special is one that's not about to gently caress you up, especially in higher diffs when better DPS isn't always going to convert to a dead special/elite because they're that much tougher. IIRC, the Agripinaa also pierces past one target, so it's still really good against hordes too.
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:It's probably not the most Efficient way to do the objective but I can't resist using a revved chainsaw on the eyeball objectives, it feels very doom 2016 glory kill Same here. I already have it revved up when the eyeball spawns
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