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Mega Comrade posted:And again I see that as a plus. I'm just saying, there's no need to jump straight to "surely that instance must be full of child porn". It could very well just have been a disagreement on something smaller. Mastodon's overarching culture seems to be less the product of "libertarian/free speech ideology", and more the product of most instances being run by the kind of person who's so mad at the mods that they go make their own forum just so they can be mods themselves. In general, the fediverse seems to lean left...complete with all the infighting and petty drama over minor disagreements. Mega Comrade posted:The people bullying Jordan Peterson online are doing an important public service though. They're really not. And if someone is so dedicated to hating someone that they're going out of their way to follow the person they hate, just so they never miss an opportunity to hurl insults, I don't particularly want to hear from them.
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Kwyndig posted:Isn't mass blocking a problem with Twitter, not a feature? I can't count the number of times acquaintances of mine who I don't follow on Twitter have been blocked by randos because they're using a mass blocker and the list they got is maintained by someone with a bone to pick with someone they follow for industry news or something. A lot of the big autoblocker lists are set up by some big weirdos from all I heard, the initial anti alt-right ones turned out to be set up by massive TERFs.
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All of this talk of Twitter/Mastodin blocking practices does remind me to mention, part of why I came to hate Twitter a lot is because I noticed evn with blocklists, I'd almost spend more time blocking people than actual tweeting. Anti-Social Media lol
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Dec 21, 2022 17:46
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This is why I only follow people I know IRL on social media, and only interact with people I don't know on SA.
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Dec 21, 2022 17:51
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Chalk me up as someone who doesn't "get" Mastodon. So if I register on a popular server, I won't be able to interact with smaller niche servers who blocked me because I'm registered on a popular server? And if I register on an obscure niche server then I can't read what gets posted on the popular servers, because the niche server blocks them? And the solution seems to be "lol just register two accounts you boomer"??? Why would I want that?
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Twitter sends you content you didn't want because it's trying to generate engagement. Unless you check the general feed on your instance, you will only ever see content on Masto from hash tags or posters you specifically subscribed to. You don't need to block people nearly as much, because there's no algorithm throwing you poo poo you hate because it knows you'll interact with it.
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Main Paineframe posted:I'm just saying, there's no need to jump straight to "surely that instance must be full of child porn". It could very well just have been a disagreement on something smaller. If my instance admin started blocking other instances over petty poo poo I'd just migrate to a new instance and carry on as normal. Right now twitters owner is banning people for petty poo poo and the recourse is only to accept it or leave twitter completely. So yes, I see it as an improvement. Hell I could create my own instance if I wanted and host it on my raspberryPi, that way I have full control over what instances I see and which ones I don't Mega Comrade fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Dec 21, 2022 |
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Dec 21, 2022 18:09
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It's almost like social media has some fundamental problems to which there are no technological solutions.
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Dec 21, 2022 18:36
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Regardless of what you think about blocklists and block-chains, it seems weird to complain about Mastodon not having a feature that Twitter doesn't actually have, but is instead supplied by a third party. If OP doesn't like it, just wait until someone implements that before migrating? Maybe talk to the tools owners about it? 
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Dietrich posted:Twitter sends you content you didn't want because it's trying to generate engagement. Unless you check the general feed on your instance, you will only ever see content on Masto from hash tags or posters you specifically subscribed to. You don't need to block people nearly as much, because there's no algorithm throwing you poo poo you hate because it knows you'll interact with it. As someone who only uses twitter via a third party app I feel like I’m using a different service. There is no algorithm, no ads, and I only see stuff from folks I follow and always in chronological order.
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I'm honestly down for the breaking up of big social media sites at this point. Just balkanize this poo poo and take me back to 2004. Between Discord, SA, and RSS feeds I'm good. Mastodon is a fun concept, but people who aren't posting on a tech D&D thread are going to glaze over the second you start talking about instancing etiquette. I suppose that stymieing Mastodon's growth with that in mind can be both a blessing and a curse. Chieves fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Dec 21, 2022 |
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Yeah, Discord succeeded because it just did a super accessible version of IRC and removed all of the confusing dorky stuff surrounding it. Click a thing, chat with people, the end. I'm pretty plugged-in but I still have no clue how Mastodon works and have no interest in finding out. I also deleted my Twitter account last year so I'm not exactly the prime demo here.
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Mega Comrade posted:Really? Firefox has been in steady decline in popularity for years but recently has been having a resurgence after google announced they are bringing 'security changes' to chrome that will also make ad-blockers not work. Oh jesus christ. Of course they are. Guess I'll just not look at over half the web pages on the internet now
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Mega Comrade posted:Really? Firefox has been in steady decline in popularity for years but recently has been having a resurgence after google announced they are bringing 'security changes' to chrome that will also make ad-blockers not work. is this going to affect all chromium-based browsers? i'm kind of loving edge but that could change to hating real quick if it gets this 'security change' .
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abelwingnut posted:is this going to affect all chromium-based browsers? i'm kind of loving edge but that could change to hating real quick if it gets this 'security change' . Yeah, it is. Long story short is that the APIs that add-ons use are being restricted in what they can see and do to the webpage, ostensibly to prevent malicious add-ons from harvesting what you are looking at but removing the ability of ad blocking extensions to do a lot of what they do. https://www.theregister.com/2022/09/08/ad_blockers_chrome_manifest_v3/ quote:That advice won't be viable as of January, when Manifest v2-based extensions will stop working in Chrome. That's likely to be the case for Microsoft Edge, which has endorsed MV3. Apple Safari introduced support for MV3 in version 15.4 and while Apple has not indicated whether it intends to drop support for MV2, it removed the blocking WebRequest API years ago. Outliers like Brave and Mozilla have said they plan to continue support for MV2, though some resources will be required to do so.
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shalcar posted:Yeah, it is. Long story short is that the APIs that add-ons use are being restricted in what they can see and do to the webpage, ostensibly to prevent malicious add-ons from harvesting what you are looking at but removing the ability of ad blocking extensions to do a lot of what they do. That's been postponed, presumably due to the tidal wave of feedback about how it loving sucks. Cabbit fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Dec 22, 2022 |
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I'm gonna laugh if Mozilla manages to zombie shamble back into being a major player by default.
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abelwingnut posted:how is firefox these days? Not great but not the worst.  Getting beaten by edge is a bit embarrassing. Surprised that Chrome has such a lead. I assume a lot of android phones use it by default. Edit: (also just saw around 1.23% of people apparently still use yahoo search. lol) dr_rat fucked around with this message at 03:40 on Dec 22, 2022 |
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abelwingnut posted:how is firefox these days? Good. I occasionally hit a form that just won't work in it (usually a government or utility page, go figure), but it's otherwise a smooth experience. It's also got the tree-style-tabs extension that lets me stack my tabs to the side in nice, nested, collapsible stacks, which I more or less require to function now.
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dr_rat posted:Getting beaten by edge is a bit embarrassing. Surprised that Chrome has such a lead. I assume a lot of android phones use it by default. I assume Chromebooks probably count for a lot of that as well.
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Firefox is the best desktop browser.dr_rat posted:Getting beaten by edge is a bit embarrassing. Other way around; Edge barely squeaking ahead is pathetic considering how obnoxious Windows is about demanding that you try it, nagging you to change your default browser and refusing to let you uninstall it safely.
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dr_rat posted:Not great but not the worst.
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abelwingnut posted:how is firefox these days? The only major gripes tend to be UI and design related, some of which is reversible with userchrome.css. Security remains very good.
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feedmyleg posted:Yeah, Discord succeeded because it just did a super accessible version of IRC and removed all of the confusing dorky stuff surrounding it. Click a thing, chat with people, the end. Discord also pretty much caught up all the users Microsoft actively drove away from Skype and its various chat programs it wouldn't stop loving with. Thing is about Microsoft is that even when their software is good, at this point no one expects it to stay good, they've spent so long actively destroying user trust and investment in their platforms.
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Vegetable posted:The yahoo market share is just Japan where it’s still a thing, I’m guessing And me, I have a Yahoo account that I use to sign up for stuff with. It gets surprisingly little spam, but a surprising amount of stuff from addresses I do interact with gets flagged as spam.
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abelwingnut posted:how is firefox these days? I genuinely think it's the best. The containers system is brilliant and super helpful.
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Firefox is also by far the best mobile browser since you can put an ad-blocker on it.
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I should switch to, because the ad blocking browser I use has started to.... show it's own ads!
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Using Proxomitron to filter ads like it's 1999 when the browsers disable adblockers.Blue Footed Booby posted:I'm gonna laugh if Mozilla manages to zombie shamble back into being a major player by default. Then laugh harder when they decide to throw away the single advantage they have over other browsers.
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sinky posted:Then laugh harder when they decide to throw away the single advantage they have over other browsers. That's like the go to move for seemingly every software/it service company.
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Edge was becoming a nice browser until Microsoft decided to poo poo it up completely with prompts to use Bing, deciding to take you through a first-time setup after certain updates which prompt you to use Bing, randomly resetting the new tab pages to screenfuls of tabloid trash news articles, and the loving coupon popups. Nobody is using Bing, get over it.
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It is the Microsoft way. Still convinced they will gently caress up GitHub at some point.
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It needs product managers prepared to tell other teams to gently caress off
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Thanks Ants posted:Nobody is using Bing, get over it. Weirdly, I prefer Bing maps to Google maps in a browser, because google maps just has so much bloat now that it takes ages to zoom in and out or change locations.
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Google are just as bad, you try using their services in Edge and they constantly remind you that Chrome exists. You are multi-billion dollar corporations, cut it out.
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I downloaded Firefox onto a new laptop via Edge and the way it popped up a begging "You don't have to get another browser" message had absolutely no dignity.
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Szmitten posted:I downloaded Firefox onto a new laptop via Edge and the way it popped up a begging "You don't have to get another browser" message had absolutely no dignity. ~ baby come back... you can blame it all on IE ~
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