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njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


I'd wager most people linking Microsoft and Riot stuff will be after the Valorant unlocks tbh.

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Monicro
Oct 21, 2010

And you could feel his features in the air
A wide smile and perfect hair
He had complete control of the rising tides
And a medicine bag hanging at his side

In the flowing blue world of the death-dealing physician
I'm definitely gonna give valorant another spin with it. It's a great tie-in

Agrias120
Jun 27, 2002

I will burn my dread.

As a mostly ARAM player, I have mixed feelings about unlocking all the champions. But I’m really excited to get all the VALORANT agents.

WIFEY WATCHDOG
Jun 25, 2012

Yeah, well I don't trust this guy. I think he regifted, he degifted, and now he's using an upstairs invite as a springboard to a Super Bowl sex romp.
If you don’t Aram 24/7 with a full roster and only take the first champ offered I dunno

Rygar201
Jan 26, 2011
I AM A TERRIBLE PIECE OF SHIT.

Please Condescend to me like this again.

Oh yeah condescend to me ALL DAY condescend daddy.


You should get every champ when in aram, anything less is dishonorable imo

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Wait PC ARAM doesn't give you all champs? Laffo. Mobile gives you all champs in ARAM no matter what so you can't game it with your champion pool

Cleretic
Feb 3, 2010


Ignore my posts!
I'm aggressively wrong about everything!
The one time I did ARAM it gave me a champ I know I didn't unlock (Jinx), but I don't know the exact ruleset it's using.

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Barudak posted:

Wait PC ARAM doesn't give you all champs? Laffo. Mobile gives you all champs in ARAM no matter what so you can't game it with your champion pool

People used to have ARAM specific accounts where they'd only unlock the champs who are super good in ARAM. Then they changed it so ARAM selection now pulls from your owned champs plus the last 3 free rotations so even if you only have one champ fully unlocked there's still a possible 48 champs you can draw.

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
I might reinstall this if I don't have to unlock champions. is Vayne top still good? teemo?

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

RealityWarCriminal posted:

I might reinstall this if I don't have to unlock champions. is Vayne top still good? teemo?

Both work well as counterpicks in certain situations (generally enemy heroes that cant reach them, or in Teemo's case rely too much on autoattacks/AA-derived effects for trades), Teemo received a bunch of very nice buffs a good few patches ago that make him excellent in certain matchups.

You might have a bad time first/blind picking them, though.

Firebert
Aug 16, 2004
If you play Vayne top you will get camped and deserve to be

RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:
> Space created

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.
If you play Teemo top, you're a war criminal and I hope you get rained on.

Mindblast
Jun 28, 2006

Moving at the speed of death.


njsykora posted:

People used to have ARAM specific accounts where they'd only unlock the champs who are super good in ARAM. Then they changed it so ARAM selection now pulls from your owned champs plus the last 3 free rotations so even if you only have one champ fully unlocked there's still a possible 48 champs you can draw.

I recall them permanently unlocking 65 champions for everyone in ARAM; all their choices being the ones that are played the most. Now Im wondering if they already scrapped the idea.

Duderclese
Aug 30, 2003
I'm the gay younger brother of UnkleBoB and Buddha Stalin

1stGear posted:

If you play Teemo top, you're a war criminal and I hope you get rained on.

I agree.

Teemo jungle for life.

Biplane
Jul 18, 2005

Teemo is at home in every lane

Tosk
Feb 22, 2013

I am sorry. I have no vices for you to exploit.

ARAM is easily the best game mode in League and it is great that they can finally balance it properly. A semi-functional ranked ARAM ladder would throw my League addiction back into its season 3-4 days

Waterfall Watcher
Dec 17, 2018

How to ruin improve game sessions & family ties with one simple question.

-Would this be better if I used poison?
teemo top is a day full of joy and wonder, adc (not teemo) is bad (you should hate them)(no teemo).

new aram is coolish kinda portals cool but i miss being rammus and seeing everyone pay the walking tax :p;

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


lmao ap varus got buffed again

edit nevermind I was looking at 11.24 notes

SirSamVimes fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Dec 17, 2022

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

Mindblast posted:

I recall them permanently unlocking 65 champions for everyone in ARAM; all their choices being the ones that are played the most. Now Im wondering if they already scrapped the idea.
You recall correctly, 65 champs + owned champs + weekly free rotation.

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as a fairly new League player I am broadly fine with Riot's attempts to monetize me, but charging for rune pages is loving disgusting (yes I use an overlay) but this abomination is actually an improvement over the older system??

njsykora
Jan 23, 2012

Robots confuse squirrels.


Gobbeldygook posted:

You recall correctly, 65 champs + owned champs + weekly free rotation.

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as a fairly new League player I am broadly fine with Riot's attempts to monetize me, but charging for rune pages is loving disgusting (yes I use an overlay) but this abomination is actually an improvement over the older system??

No-one should be paying for rune pages any more now it takes about 3 seconds to set your runes and there's even an option to pick from 3 champ specific presets now.

Catgirl Al Capone
Dec 15, 2007

at this point rune pages are mostly just for saving weird personal setups you’re experimenting with

threelemmings
Dec 4, 2007
A jellyfish!

Gobbeldygook posted:

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this abomination is actually an improvement over the older system??

Imagine you had to buy each little rune individually, and then buy the page and then buy the slots to put the runes in.


And then if you didn't have the right runes you could not clear jungle.

Taciturn Tactician
Jan 27, 2011

The secret to good health is a balanced diet and unstable healing radiation
Lipstick Apathy

threelemmings posted:

Imagine you had to buy each little rune individually, and then buy the page and then buy the slots to put the runes in.


And then if you didn't have the right runes you could not clear jungle.

Also, here's the important part, you could not edit these pages in champion select. And some champions needed a specific rune page that wasn't a generic role based rune page, and if you didn't have that specific runepage ready ahead of champion select you were just at a major disadvantage for no reason. Shout out to old Akali.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Wild Rift lets you save customized shop lists+runes for each champion individually at no cost. Probably should back port that

Monicro
Oct 21, 2010

And you could feel his features in the air
A wide smile and perfect hair
He had complete control of the rising tides
And a medicine bag hanging at his side

In the flowing blue world of the death-dealing physician
Yeah the new rune system isn’t perfect by any means but the suggestion thing it has now cleans up a whole lot of the problems by itself

Barudak
May 7, 2007

If you weren't rocking 2% crit chance tyrndamere going all in at level 1 hoping to win a fishing expedition I dont think you truly appreciated the flexibility the rune page system granted.

Im so glad that rune system is dead

Torchlighter
Jan 15, 2012

I Got Kids. I need this.
I'm guessing part of the issue is that they don't know who paid ip and thus blue essence for runepages and who paid actual real money, and people already have mountains of blue essence from champ shards + the rune refund anyway.

Also I feel like they could have run the essence emporium forever the same way as the mythic store but obviously that doesn't get them money so lol no thanks, also it probably crashed the client... again. It's frankly amazing how they managed to make the worst client twice.

Feisty-Cadaver
Jun 1, 2000
The worms crawl in,
The worms crawl out.

Gobbeldygook posted:

You recall correctly, 65 champs + owned champs + weekly free rotation.

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as a fairly new League player I am broadly fine with Riot's attempts to monetize me, but charging for rune pages is loving disgusting (yes I use an overlay) but this abomination is actually an improvement over the older system??

the old rune system sucked tremendously hard, and while the new one is not perfect, it's so much better it's hard to even compare the two.

Servaetes
Sep 10, 2003

False enemy or true friend?
You really only needed an AD set and a AP set for runes but people insisted it was impossible to play league without a spellvamp quint and scaling crit yellows or something dumb. You really only needed two pages and anything else was pretty excessive

That being said the existing rune system is absolutely better

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


Even if it's possible to play with a generic AD/AP set, it still really sucked that you would have a disadvantage over people who specialise theirs.

New system is much better for specialising your playstyle.

Monicro
Oct 21, 2010

And you could feel his features in the air
A wide smile and perfect hair
He had complete control of the rising tides
And a medicine bag hanging at his side

In the flowing blue world of the death-dealing physician
I mean this with full sincerity, the choice between second wind and bone plating alone is 1000x more interesting and fun than anything the old system ever brought to the table

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011

SirSamVimes posted:

Even if it's possible to play with a generic AD/AP set, it still really sucked that you would have a disadvantage over people who specialise theirs.

New system is much better for specialising your playstyle.

Exactly, you could "make due" with the two generic pages, but you'd then not have a page without MR for going against full AD teams or HP scaling yellows for going against full AP teams, or you couldn't play Akali optimally with hybrid AD/AP to hit her specific breakpoints at the start of the game for her passive and the insane lvl 1 power boost that came with it and dozens of other champs that had min/maxed runepages with real benefit or matchup runepages.

And while you spend all your IP on runes and runepages to hold the runes your champ collection would stagnate while the roster got bigger by the week.

edit: didn't even see someone mentioned old akali already, that's how big it was for her.

Ra Ra Rasputin fucked around with this message at 22:02 on Dec 22, 2022

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

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Barudak posted:

If you weren't rocking 2% crit chance tyrndamere going all in at level 1 hoping to win a fishing expedition I dont think you truly appreciated the flexibility the rune page system granted.

Im so glad that rune system is dead

Couldn't you get like 24% crit at lvl 1 for ludicrous GP parleys

Mr. Locke
Jul 28, 2010

Barudak posted:

If you weren't rocking 2% crit chance tyrndamere going all in at level 1 hoping to win a fishing expedition I dont think you truly appreciated the flexibility the rune page system granted.

Im so glad that rune system is dead

Walking into midlane with a Heimerdinger with 54 HP/5 and exactly one crit rune for maximum troll.

Duderclese
Aug 30, 2003
I'm the gay younger brother of UnkleBoB and Buddha Stalin

verbal enema posted:

Couldn't you get like 24% crit at lvl 1 for ludicrous GP parleys

I wanna say it was 22%

Yes I did this. Yes it was hilarious.

verbal enema
May 23, 2009

onlymarfans.com

Duderclese posted:

I wanna say it was 22%

Yes I did this. Yes it was hilarious.

Yeah it kicked rear end I had a blast

Rygar201
Jan 26, 2011
I AM A TERRIBLE PIECE OF SHIT.

Please Condescend to me like this again.

Oh yeah condescend to me ALL DAY condescend daddy.


Crit Damage Ashe was also a funny gimmick page

Ra Ra Rasputin
Apr 2, 2011
Starting games with a secret couple rejuv beads could win some matchups without much the other person could do even before you used your 5 health potions and actual full inventory of rejuv beads.

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Taciturn Tactician
Jan 27, 2011

The secret to good health is a balanced diet and unstable healing radiation
Lipstick Apathy

Ra Ra Rasputin posted:

Starting games with a secret couple rejuv beads could win some matchups without much the other person could do even before you used your 5 health potions and actual full inventory of rejuv beads.

5 health potions? Clearly you have forgotten the old secret tech of 13 pot starts.

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