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If you're interested in checking out Blood on the Clocktower, and are into Mafia/Werewolf do yourselves a favour and watch this ep - Promise you won't be disappointed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vowj_vM4XMQ No spoilers, but it perfectly encapsulates the genre.
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So I went to a boardgame shop with my boardgame-ambivalent wife and she bought two little £5 card games for playing at Christmas after dinner, at the table. Not to be outdone I impulse bought Eldritch Horror. On a scale of 1-10 how likely is it going to be a complete catastrophe when I sit her down to play it at some point? My only saving grace is that I have already bought her a Lovecraft book set for Xmas itself, and she likes Pandemic. Please help...
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As long as one player knows the rules well, it isn't the worst thing. There is a limited number of different actions you can do and most of the game is just skill checks and doing what the cards say. Maybe just start playing and explain your turns and what you are doing as you go. I do not envy you, though. I just got into Arkham Horror LCG and I'm terrified of the day I have to teach it to my partner, since she has patience for 10 minutes of rules at a time... Just like EH, it is not a hard game to play, but at first it looks intimidating.
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Play a solo game before showing it to her. If one player “runs” the game - handling all the end of turn stuff, drawing cards from the appropriate decks, reading out monster tokens, etc it massively lightens the load on everyone else, the they really just have to decide where to go on their turn which is what most of the important decision making in the game is about. It’s similar to pandemic in that it’s about how you balance time between troubleshooting/stopping problems from cascading and working to win the game - with the additional axis of how much time you want to invest in upgrading your characters abilities and gear. And most of that is just about where you go on the map to action stuff. Blamestorm fucked around with this message at 10:41 on Dec 21, 2022 |
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Character choice can honestly make a big difference for how much someone likes the game too. Depends on personality of course, but I feel like most people would enjoy it more if their first character was Lily Chen (who is practically designed to run around the globe and get into adventures) as opposed to Charlie Kane (who mostly sits in one spot and buys items for everyone else).
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Dec 21, 2022 11:47
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Arzaac posted:Character choice can honestly make a big difference for how much someone likes the game too. Depends on personality of course, but I feel like most people would enjoy it more if their first character was Lily Chen (who is practically designed to run around the globe and get into adventures) as opposed to Charlie Kane (who mostly sits in one spot and buys items for everyone else). If you're playing Eldritch Horror with two people then it's recommended that you each control two characters. The game is best balanced at 4 anyway, but it also means that you can be both Lily and Charlie.
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Infinitum posted:If you're interested in checking out Blood on the Clocktower, and are into Mafia/Werewolf do yourselves a favour and watch this ep - Promise you won't be disappointed. Laurie's my Demon.
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Arzaac posted:Character choice can honestly make a big difference for how much someone likes the game too. Depends on personality of course, but I feel like most people would enjoy it more if their first character was Lily Chen (who is practically designed to run around the globe and get into adventures) as opposed to Charlie Kane (who mostly sits in one spot and buys items for everyone else). This is hilarious to me as someone not familiar with Eldritch Horror, because in the Arkham Horror LCG Lily Chen is pretty weird to deckbuild and play (she's a purple Mystic which is generally a pretty hard class to play well, except her deckbuilding requirements are actually mostly around blue Guardian, which is a gun-heavy color, except she can't take guns....etc.) and Charlie Kane is just easy and fun and thematic to play. "Eh whatever toss another few companions in there, it'll work out fine."
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Rockman Reserve posted:This is hilarious to me as someone not familiar with Eldritch Horror, because in the Arkham Horror LCG Lily Chen is pretty weird to deckbuild and play (she's a purple Mystic which is generally a pretty hard class to play well, except her deckbuilding requirements are actually mostly around blue Guardian, which is a gun-heavy color, except she can't take guns....etc.) and Charlie Kane is just easy and fun and thematic to play. "Eh whatever toss another few companions in there, it'll work out fine." Lily Chen is great in every Arkham files game. Just running around punching monsters in their stupid faces until they die like it's nothing.
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When you say, better balanced, do you mean easier? I’m a bit wary already about the complexity already and I wonder if adding an extra characters control might be too much. We had a lot of fun when we lose pandemic, but it was a bit of an uphill struggle to get a buy-in to the rules and mechanics.
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Southern Heel posted:When you say, better balanced, do you mean easier? I’m a bit wary already about the complexity already and I wonder if adding an extra characters control might be too much. While I haven't played EH and haven't played much of the new edition of the AH board game, the problem that these games tend to run into is that even though they're honestly as balanced as they probably can be for other player counts (e.g. in Arkham Horror LCG, doom advances one tick per round no matter how many players they are, and the power of having more investigators to deal with is countered by everyone drawing a Mythos card every round) it's still much easier to succeed with more players just because they can cover more of the game board/map effectively and accomplish different goals faster.
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High Tension Wire posted:I do not envy you, though. I just got into Arkham Horror LCG and I'm terrified of the day I have to teach it to my partner, since she has patience for 10 minutes of rules at a time... Just like EH, it is not a hard game to play, but at first it looks intimidating.
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Arkham horror lcg owns. World class co op pcg experience. Holds up to casual play and competitive ex mtg nerd abuse
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Yo was this thread always at 2 bars or was that a recent thing? The hell happened? I didn't know people were even rating this thread e: lol guess that got others to try and balance the rating FirstAidKite fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Dec 22, 2022 |
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Watch It Played also has very good video tutorial for Akrham LCG. Non-game-owners really just basically need to know what are stats and how skill checks work, since like 90% of the gameplay is skill checks. I got to finally play couple tutorial scenarios with a friend a while back, and drat if that wasn't one of the best and most intense boardgaming experiences. The game rules hard.
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I'm been thinking of buying another coop game, mostly meant for people who are relatively new to board games, so preferably I'd like a game trending towards the simpler end of the spectrum. The co-op titles I already have are Just One, Spirit Island, Codenames Duet and The Crew and I was mostly thinking of something with a board or some other board-like component (so not exclusively card-based like The Crew or Hanabi). I was originally planning on getting Pandemic Iberia but it's like $60 + shipping where I usually shop lol Looking at other alternatives, I saw that Forbidden Desert is half the price. Would it be a good fit for what I'm looking for? Looking at some videos it seems a tad more complex than Island but not that more so.
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Honestly, I played forbidden desert once, and I’m willing to admit I might have misunderstood something – but it seemed to have all of the depth of a shallow puddle, and I had absolutely no desire to play a second time! Maybe pandemic legacy? There is certainly a lot of meat in that and it’s very fun to play even as a vanilla version.
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Yeah, complexity (or lack thereof, in this case) was my main concern. I'll mull it over some more; I just find it very funny that my collection goes from very light co-ops straight to one of the most complex ones 
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Panleg seems a bad pick for people new to the hobby. A multiple week commitment seems a harsh sentence for someone showing interest in boardgames. Maybe regular Pan, I'm sure Iberia is better but there's still plenty of play in base version.
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Azran posted:I'm been thinking of buying another coop game, mostly meant for people who are relatively new to board games, so preferably I'd like a game trending towards the simpler end of the spectrum. The co-op titles I already have are Just One, Spirit Island, Codenames Duet and The Crew and I was mostly thinking of something with a board or some other board-like component (so not exclusively card-based like The Crew or Hanabi). I was originally planning on getting Pandemic Iberia but it's like $60 + shipping where I usually shop lol Looking at other alternatives, I saw that Forbidden Desert is half the price. Would it be a good fit for what I'm looking for? Looking at some videos it seems a tad more complex than Island but not that more so. Well, the issue with this request is that many other highly-ranked co-op games are a fair bit more complex for people who are newer to board games, and at that point you already own Spirit Island. Games like Mage Knight or Gloomhaven or Nemesis or Mansions of Madness 2E may or may not be loved by goons but are all very complicated to expect out of newer gamers. How many are you typically playing with? Burgle Bros or Burgle Bros 2 might fit the bill, but they max at 4 players and are considered best at 3. They are pretty straightforward. You probably would have trouble teaching your parents but a budding enthusiast should be fine. Mr. Squishy posted:Maybe regular Pan, I'm sure Iberia is better but there's still plenty of play in base version. Another upside to regular Pandemic that is it has expansion, but that is probably putting the cart way before the horse. I'll just reiterate that Pandemic: Iberia is extremely good, widely considered to be the best in the series outside of the Legacy games. It's hard to recommend another co-op above it, and you already have every other multiplayer co-op the thread generally recommends. Still, for half the price (on Amazon at least) it might be worth getting the OG edition and seeing if your players like it. Honestly, I can imagine at least a few gamers who will look at a world putting aside their differences by coming together to fight a viral menace and just immediately become sad for unknown reasons.
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Southern Heel posted:
Eldritch Horror is great! It's unlikely you'll experience more than a minor, category-3 catastrophe! It's not really a complex game, but it can get very unwieldy. The setup takes a little while, because you have to organize tons of little decks, and search for specific starting items for your investigators and so forth. They can take up quite a bit of table space, too, so be prepared to spread things out! You may want to run through setting up a game a few times. If you eventually wind up getting any large-box expansions, you may want to consider organizing everything between one of them and the starting box for quicker setup (I used to put all the investigators and encounters and tiny cards into one box, and all the Ancient ones and monster chits and stuff into the other box). Even a tiny investment of time spent organizing EH in some way that is convenient seems to pay off exponentially, moreso than any other game on my shelf.
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 my copy of Blood on the Clocktower arrived. I haven't even opened the box yet but is there anything I should know to make it run smoothly? I think I'm having a bunch of people over to play on NYE.Southern Heel posted:Honestly, I played forbidden desert once, and I’m willing to admit I might have misunderstood something – but it seemed to have all of the depth of a shallow puddle, and I had absolutely no desire to play a second time! Maybe I'm biased because I loathed how simple and boring Forbidden Island was, but I've actually always really liked Forbidden Desert - it builds on the base of Island and adds just enough twists and mild randomization to really minimize quarterbacking and generate some interesting decision situations. But it is still basically the minimum possible complexity to make a co-op game interesting.
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Rockman Reserve posted:
A random collection of thoughts: How many players will you have? If you have less than 7, remember that the Demon doesn’t get bluffs and the evil team doesn’t know each other. Do run Trouble Brewing as the script for a while. TB had enough going on that let’s people get comfortable with the game without breaking them. Sometimes it still breaks people, and that’s ok! Make sure you, as the Storyteller, understand what being drunk and poisoned means, and also how the Drunk affects setup. The summary included in the game to read to your players before their first game is pretty good to get your first game started. Don’t go over nominations, voting, or executions until the end of the first day. Your players will have enough to worry about during the first night.
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If you've never played in person before, the key things are: Make sure the circle is big enough that you can move around in it while carrying the grimoire. Make sure the circle has an opening somewhere so you can get in and out of it Don't step on the town square. (Don't worry, you absolutely will, and it'll be funny, especially if it happens during a night phase and everyone with their eyes closed just hears you go "aw, gently caress" or whatever.) Beyond mechanical stuff like that, just make the game flow with the players. If players don't get up and walk around to chat with each other, then keep the days short and the game moving. If players aren't nominating, give them a countdown and then move on. If players *ARE* moving around and chatting, listen in on things to make sure everyone understands their roles and to hear what people are bluffing as. (If a minion is bluffing as whatever and gets executed while the undertaker is poisoned, for example, show the undertaker the bluffed role.)
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Azran posted:I'm been thinking of buying another coop game, mostly meant for people who are relatively new to board games, so preferably I'd like a game trending towards the simpler end of the spectrum. The co-op titles I already have are Just One, Spirit Island, Codenames Duet and The Crew and I was mostly thinking of something with a board or some other board-like component (so not exclusively card-based like The Crew or Hanabi). I was originally planning on getting Pandemic Iberia but it's like $60 + shipping where I usually shop lol Looking at other alternatives, I saw that Forbidden Desert is half the price. Would it be a good fit for what I'm looking for? Looking at some videos it seems a tad more complex than Island but not that more so. I think Forbidden Desert would be a good fit to what you are looking for. It was my first coop game I played and I thought the rules were pretty straight forward. The only part that is kind of weird is the way the storm moves; the storm is just an empty tile space that moves around by sliding tiles around it. I don't know why the game didn't use a storm tile/marker instead of an empty space. It took awhile to get used to. If you are looking for other alternatives, I recommend the original Horrified. The rules are simple, it has a lots a replay value, and you can easily adjust the difficulty by having less or more monsters.
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This has also come up in the industry thread if anyone wants to see the discussion. Not to dissuade the chat, because as we all know, gently caress That Guy. As this gains momentum, more of these are saying DMCA which is notable because that is absolutely a horse of a different color than the begrudging acceptance that a trademark dispute might raise. At least from a casual lay observer like me.
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Anyone have a recommendation for a relatively cheap neoprene/rubber mat to throw down for board games? All the ones I pull up on Amazon have questionable reviews. It probably doesn’t matter and I should just order whatever, but if anyone has recommendations. Looking for something maybe 36x36…
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snickles posted:Anyone have a recommendation for a relatively cheap neoprene/rubber mat to throw down for board games? All the ones I pull up on Amazon have questionable reviews. It probably doesn’t matter and I should just order whatever, but if anyone has recommendations. I have some Big Viking Mats, they cut any size you want. I don't know what "relatively cheap" means but I've had mine for years and they've held up.
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I can highly recommend boardgametables for their playmats - I did a bulk buy for my gaming group and every single person who bought one loves it. https://www.boardgametables.com/products/board-game-playmat An alternative I used for a while was some velvet fabric with a floor/rug stopper underneath if you want the cheapest option. Worked well.
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Stitching can press into your arms if you have a mat that sits flush with the edge of the table. May or may not be an issue for your use case
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PRADA SLUT posted:Stitching can press into your arms if you have a mat that sits flush with the edge of the table. May or may not be an issue for your use case PRADA SLUT posted:I have some Big Viking Mats, they cut any size you want. I don't know what "relatively cheap" means but I've had mine for years and they've held up. Infinitum posted:I can highly recommend boardgametables for their playmats - I did a bulk buy for my gaming group and every single person who bought one loves it. I've never had a mat, period, so I really have no idea what I'm looking for. I looked on Amazon and all the reviews looked astroturfed so I was afraid to order anything. Thanks for the recommendations!
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Boargametable mat has been amazing. Very luxurious, mine has a shoulder carrying case too.
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Rockman Reserve posted:
To add to what everyone else has said, if you have the time for it I'd recommend watching some of the No Rolls Barred episodes on YouTube, especially the first in person one as the Storytellers usually explain their decision making process for things like drunk/poisoned information, and also are a good way to get a preview of some of the physicality of the game. Also, definitely recommend to your players that they go off and have private conversations! New players who have only played Werewolf/Mafia/The Resistance may not realize that this is an option, but private conversations are a very important part of the game and the game might stall a bit without them. They're the only way for demons and minions to share bluffs and strategize, or for good players with powerful roles to share their info without becoming immediate targets for the evil team. In the same vein, you'll probably want to keep some sort of loose timer going, as the game can run long if you're letting people run around and have conversations without limits. Maybe 10 minutes for conversations on the first day, and 5-7 minutes from there? Time limits are also helpful for group discussions while nominations are open, but be sure to pause it once a nomination occurs as you need to give both players the chance to make their case without interruption. On the topic of nominations, my final recommendation is to be very clear about the numbers and what the players are voting on each time there is a vote. As an example, just before you start the vote say something like "Rockman Reserve has nominated Breadnought, there are 10 players alive, so 5 votes are required to put Breadnought up for execution. Breadnought will be the last to vote." It helps avoid any misunderstandings.
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I've played maybe four or five games of the Flamme Rouge single player variant and I have no idea how you win that without just being incredibly lucky. Played a game today due to power outage in a huge winter storm (thanks climate change) and I drew a single exhaustion card the entire game, was able to make a mad sprint at the end, and the peleton team still sprinted one step ahead of me. Ooooh frustrating. Still one of my favourite games, and I'm very annoyed at how much I want to get Heat now, thanks SUSD.
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Calico is getting a steam game adaptation with some new features. The upcoming steam release will be called Quilts & Cats of Calico. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1993180/Quilts_and_Cats_of_Calico/   quote:Stepping beyond adaptation https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTkhNZk4xQ4
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My copy of one deck galaxy came in. Stumbled through a first game, it was pretty good but there were a few rules that I don't think are super clear. I think after a few more games I'll get a better feel for how it plays.
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Rockman Reserve posted:
Make sure you have the rules down pat. Make sure you understand how each character works, and how they might interact with each other. For example, can a Slayer kill a Recluse? (yes) Can a Monk prevent an Imp from killing itself and passing on to a minion? (yes) As another person said, start with Trouble Brewing. It's a relatively simple set, but even so there's still plenty of room for confusion. Don't over-explain the rules. Give a broad overview but don't worry about explaining every character. Make sure players understand that good players might lie about their roles just as much as evil, and that private chats are encouraged. If anyone is familiar with Werewolf, make sure to highlight the key differences (deads still play and don't reveal their roles, can nominate/be nominated once per day).
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snickles posted:Anyone have a recommendation for a relatively cheap neoprene/rubber mat to throw down for board games? All the ones I pull up on Amazon have questionable reviews. It probably doesn’t matter and I should just order whatever, but if anyone has recommendations. The mats for X-Wing were/are 36x36, $40 USD, made from a thin and easily rollable neoprene but after all the asmodee and ffg weirdness they seem to be stuck in awaiting reprint hell and unavailable everywhere.
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Phelddagrif posted:If anyone is familiar with Werewolf, make sure to highlight the key differences (deads still play and don't reveal their roles, can nominate/be nominated once per day). Those are two different distinctions, yeah?
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