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Yeah, the only one I’ve found online is Cranes Nest and they’ve been defunct a while. Guess I’ll do some more looking on meetup and facebook and see if I can dig anything else up!
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hello i am playing go again after stopping for 5+ years pretty wild that absolutely nothing has changed on any of these sites since then and the same number of people if not less are playing. crazy
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# ? Dec 7, 2022 04:25 |
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derp posted:hello i am playing go again after stopping for 5+ years i just grabbed the SmartGo One app which seems to be much improved. has actual tutorials and stuff. maybe i'll finally get the hang of it
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# ? Dec 12, 2022 21:17 |
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This is probably a dumb question, but where do you find social clubs for go? I always wanted to get better, but I have no interest in playing online. The game doesn't hold my interest in front of a computer.
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# ? Dec 13, 2022 01:47 |
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I found a group via MeetUp before the pandemic.
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# ? Dec 13, 2022 22:02 |
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If you’re in America here’s a list of AGA affiliated clubs https://www.usgo.org/where-play-go
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# ? Dec 14, 2022 14:43 |
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You can also check on https://baduk.club which seems a little more current; it’s also possible to find individual players near you or add yourself for other people to find
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Thanks! All of that looks awesome. I can't wait to show up to one of these and get my rear end kicked!
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# ? Dec 16, 2022 19:54 |
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been playing a lot against the computer and a couple players on OGS, and i'm getting frustrated. i can't seem to get the hang of it. i tried to move up to 13x13 against SmartGo and i can't win even with a 4-stone handicap, which makes me feel terrible at the game. right now i'm playing games watching the analysis to see when i make a blunder, but i often have no idea why a seemingly-innocuous move completely flips the game. even following the next few moves doesn't really help. maybe i need a teacher? it just seems like with a 4 stone handicap it should be nearly impossible for me to lose, maybe i'm wrong about that. i'm reading Learn to Play Go, and it's good, but it's all tactics that i don't see come up in my games. i feel blind to what's happening. should i maybe get a teacher? i think i need someone to explain stuff to me, because the computer isn't really helping. unfortunately there aren't any go clubs nearby (albany, ny) so i don't think that's an option.
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# ? Dec 18, 2022 15:50 |
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How long have you been playing? 4 stones is a decent size handicap, especially on the 13x13 board, but handicaps go up to 9 stones for a reason, and even with a 9-stone handicap, even advanced amateurs who have been playing for years and years cannot beat pro players. The skill differences between a pro and an advanced amateur, between them and an intermediate, between them and a beginner, and between them and someone who has literally never played are around 9 stones each. Go has massive depth. If you've been playing for less than a few months, and you understand the rules, IMO you should read less (or not at all, for now) and play more. And you should play all 3 standard board sizes, to get a feel for how they're different (9x9 is all about close fighting tactics, 19x19 is where long-term strategy comes in). You'll start to see the patterns the more you play, and if you're the type to be interested in the game in the first place, you'll start to get it soon. There is a proverb (there are always proverbs in this poo poo): "Get your first 100 losses as soon as possible." One of the best things that playing go taught me was how to lose more gracefully.
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# ? Dec 18, 2022 16:20 |
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One of your problems is probably that the computer doesn't play in a way that is fun and educational to lose against. If you just make a online ranked account on a normal go server you can instead play against people at your level, and win approximately half of your games. Which will teach you a lot more. And as they say, after 100 losses (in normal games), you will understand enough of the game that you can learn more effectively.
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# ? Dec 18, 2022 16:37 |
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thanks, this was helpful!Scythe posted:How long have you been playing? i played for maybe a month, but a year ago, and forgot most of what i learned. the handicap info makes me feel better. VictualSquid posted:One of your problems is probably that the computer doesn't play in a way that is fun and educational to lose against. yeah, like in chess, the computer is weird because it can perfectly punish mistakes. i just beat someone online in a 13x13 game, so that feels good!
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# ? Dec 18, 2022 18:49 |
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It might be helpful to watch some "over-explained" beginner game reviews on YouTube - creators like Jonathan Hop, Michael Redmond, and Nick Sibicky make these videos from time to time. On a 13x13 board you can start getting a feel for whether a corner is likely to become territory for white or black, and what extra moves you need to make to create or stop that territory from happening. You can always post an SGF of a game (e.g. via eidogo.com) and ask here for questions about specific moves.
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# ? Dec 18, 2022 22:26 |
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Playing against humans will really hammer home some common patterns - e.g. around what happens when two lines approach a board edge. I lost a lot of points before working them out!
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# ? Dec 19, 2022 18:32 |
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god this game is so loving satisfying when things work. i'm starting to recognize patterns and keep my shapes alive, so much fun after a long battle to realize YES, i have two eyes i'm 16kyu on OGS if anyone ever wants to play, username dmansen
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# ? Dec 19, 2022 23:01 |
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just played a 13x13 where i successfully played a ladder breaker, and then read another ladder as good for me (correctly). feel like a god
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# ? Dec 24, 2022 21:50 |
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a.p. dent posted:just played a 13x13 where i successfully played a ladder breaker, and then read another ladder as good for me (correctly). feel like a god Just beat my 6yo on 13x13 with a 5 stone handicap, I still got it.
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# ? Dec 25, 2022 05:37 |
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PerniciousKnid posted:Just beat my 6yo on 13x13 with a 5 stone handicap, I still got it. that's right finally worked all the way through Graded Go Problems for Beginners Vol 1 yesterday. i think i bought it a year ago but never finished it. it's helping me a lot in games. starting Vol 2 now, seems very good also
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# ? Dec 25, 2022 13:20 |
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question, is this a dead shape? it's kinda hard to tell via computer analysis because after B2 it just starts playing elsewhere. it looked big enough to live for me so i didn't bother trying. is the strategy to play B2 then B3? that would make sense to me. i also see white B2 black B3 to connect, then white C1.. but it's hard for me to work out
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# ? Dec 25, 2022 15:04 |
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W B2 kills, yes.
After B2/B3/C1:
Thus, B is dead if W plays B2.
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# ? Dec 25, 2022 15:39 |
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thank you!
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# ? Dec 25, 2022 17:06 |
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could somebody add me to ITGO? username dmansen if anybody wants to play correspondence against a 14kyu hit me up
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# ? Dec 27, 2022 14:05 |
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Tesuji is a good book
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Is there a good YouTube/otherwise channel for analysing Go games like the many we have for Chess? I love Go but am absolutely terrible at it so in the meantime I'd like to watch better people play and someone explain strategies / wargame what they think the players might do to explain rationale behind moves. I'd like to pretend it's because I can somehow onboard that knowledge but really I just like seeing people smarter than me doing smart things.
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# ? Jan 28, 2023 00:50 |
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Tesseraction posted:Is there a good YouTube/otherwise channel for analysing Go games like the many we have for Chess? I love Go but am absolutely terrible at it so in the meantime I'd like to watch better people play and someone explain strategies / wargame what they think the players might do to explain rationale behind moves. Nick Sibicky is your guy https://youtube.com/@NickSibicky
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Nick's go classes are pretty much the only YouTube go content I can tolerate.
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Mederlock posted:Nick Sibicky is your guy https://youtube.com/@NickSibicky This looks fantastic. Thanks!
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She’s not so active anymore, but Hajin Lee’s channel is relaxing and high-skill go https://youtube.com/@HayleesWorldofGoBaduk
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# ? Jan 28, 2023 02:41 |
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Michael Redmond occasionally streams pro games: https://www.youtube.com/@MichaelRedmondsGoTV/streams The Massachusetts Go Foundation ran a league (they're now running the AGA online league) and posted reviews of some of the games: https://www.youtube.com/@massachusettsgofoundation2066/videos
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# ? Jan 28, 2023 05:37 |
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i've arrived at 10kyu more people should play this great game
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Long ago when I was 3-kyū, I posted a guide for newbies in this thread opining on what to learn first, and I can't believe I never thought of posting it directly on Sensei's Library until now. There, now it's easier to link non-goons to: https://senseis.xmp.net/?Xom#toc1
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# ? Feb 27, 2023 11:35 |
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that's a good page! really struggling to cross over to SDK, been at 10k for a while now. reading attack and defense for the 3rd time, maybe it'll stick
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# ? Feb 28, 2023 15:16 |
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a.p. dent posted:that's a good page! I'm kinda in the same boat and I find rereading fundamentals of go to be more rewarding than A&D. I feel like A&D assumes you've internalized direction of play too much for most DDKs, it's problems and solutions don't click well enough to help.
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# ? Feb 28, 2023 17:24 |
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I’ve been bouncing around mid-SDK for a long time and usually find that a Fundamentals reread helps a concept click into place faster/better than picking up Tesuji, L&D, or Attack again.
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# ? Feb 28, 2023 18:18 |
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Playing correspondence games for awhile seems to help if I feel like I'm not learning anything new. Being able to come back later if no moves jump out or having to figure out the state of the game each time I make a move gives new perspective.
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# ? Mar 1, 2023 06:29 |
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been at 9k for a few days
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I just realized I never posted this yet: https://archive.is/tDYsYFT posted:Man beats machine at Go in human victory over AI More recently, a challenge to capture all of KataGo's stones: https://forums.online-go.com/t/eat-katagos-everything/47860 https://online-go.com/game/53421988 KataGo developer is still making progress teaching KataGo to evaluate cyclic groups by hand-curating examples.
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# ? May 18, 2023 18:36 |
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How much time do you devote to go in a week? I'm trying to decide if I want to give in to paying this again. I played a few 9x9s with a friend and had a blast talking out positions, but we are on vacation right now so time isn't a factor. But back in reality, I have both responsibilities and other hobbies and I know go requires quite a bit of focus if you want to improve. I never have been successful without someone to drive me, a study buddy, but I also don't have a night a week to connect with an online group or whatever, let alone play an hour- long 19x19. Ugh God what a post. Don't search this thread, I'm sure I have five posts just like this popping up once every 1-3 years....
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i play a bunch of blitz games a day and study a lot, but one game a week seems reasonable enough to play and progress a bit. if you can't get at least one game in a week, though... is it really something you're interested in?
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