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The problem is that we do like popping heads. The second-to-second gameplay is fun. But I would very much like a wider variety of heads. This game has a whopping three environments - dank underground techruins, sandy sunny techruins, and shiny affluent techruins - and what, maybe a dozen enemies? There is one boss in this game. One. One single, solitary boss. For the entire loving game. ONE. And he's not even like a cool giant demon that you fight in space or a chaos marine or something, he's a nameless nerd in scrap armor with a gun that you fight in a literal loving train station. e: I remember when I first did the data-interrogator minigame I was like: "well, that was sort of simplistic, but it's a neat idea to put in minigames like this, I wonder what other ones there are?" And when the VAs started taking about a daemonic infestation up ahead, I was like: "whoa, I bet this game has lots of cool gribbly Nurgle demons we get to fight in it, oh boy" megane fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Dec 26, 2022 |
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hey don't undersell it, the boss can have TWO different kinds of guns and TWO different kinds of melee weapons!!! AND SOMETIMES THEY MIX THE TWO!!!!!!! THAT'S LIKE FOUR DIFFERENT ENCOUNTERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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He has good music too
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Dandywalken posted:He has good music too the entire god drat game has good music, he ain't special
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Stanley Pain posted:I've already doubled my VT1/2 play time in this game because it's a lot of fun. Me too. I think it's the combination of both great melee and ranged that makes it click more for me than VT. Plus the aesthetic, which they absolutely nailed.
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It might just be a damning indictment of the enemy variety in a lot of co-op shooters but it actually has a pretty decent variety compared to most with the elites and specialists and stuff, like obviously most of them are just various ways of dealing damage or splitting the group up that you have to pivot and kill asap but you can boil any game down to that ultimately. Some groups of nurglings swarming about, doing weird poo poo and cackling all the while would definitely liven things up though. They could be like little stabby fuckers but could also do stuff like swarm over grenades to nullify them or cover an enemy in like, nurgling armour to give them a buff of some kind.
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Dec 26, 2022 18:38
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Dandywalken posted:He has good music too Fatshark should spawn him into missions as a rare special unit, complete with music that starts out soft and gets louder as he approaches.
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Phlegmish posted:How are you supposed to play Zealot with a Boltgun, what is the weapon's niche? It certainly packs a punch, but I don't feel like I'm very effective at taking out either specials or ranged enemies. Elites do go down fairly quickly, but then my Eviscerator kind of fills the same role. Use melee on hordes and stragglers, use the bolter on specials and elites Here's a Damnation game I just played as Zealot with bolter and combat axe https://twitch.tv/videos/1689323087
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What blessings do I need to get that framerate? (nice vid)
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Kith posted:sure, but it's still way too Main Character for me. i'm playing a 40k game to feel like a convict in a suicide squad - i enjoy the feeling of being underequipped, uninformed, and unappreciated, yet still expected to get the job done. i don't want to be VANCE HARDBODY, ELITE CADIAN DEVIL OF THE STEEL LEGION DROP TROOPS wearing a cool leather jacket with purity seals and personalized armor. i just want to be some guy, and i've already achieved that look You kill literally thousands of heretics as like four guys in this game. You were never playing as Some Guy and the story conceit that you are being completely at odds with the actual game being played turns the whole thing into farce.
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The Last Chancers(40ks suicide squad) are special characters found in the special character section of the imperial guard codex who all have unique looks and equipment and backstories i would be worth like 500 pts alone if they translated my ingame performance to the table top
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Captain Oblivious posted:You kill literally thousands of heretics as like four guys in this game. You were never playing as Some Guy and the story conceit that you are being completely at odds with the actual game being played turns the whole thing into farce. Theres a version of this game thats like a martian magos, eldar aspect warrior, space marine, and ork wierdboy in a shaky and incredibly unlikely teamup, and honestly the more i think about it the more id probably have enjoyed that as much if not more than the grounded aesthetic they gave it. More bouncing off of eachother and vastly different outlooks of situations between the characters, much more variety of exclusive equipment between classes, and the scale of the path of destruction we carve would still fit as well.
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Captain Oblivious posted:You kill literally thousands of heretics as like four guys in this game. You were never playing as Some Guy and the story conceit that you are being completely at odds with the actual game being played turns the whole thing into farce. Nah that’s just 40k. It’s all a giant power fantasy where everyone kills a bajillion and one brain dead chaos goons before getting got in a blaze of glory. There’s a spot in one of the Gaunts books where a 15 year old girl picks up a las pistol and goes loud on a bunch of chaos infantry and drops like two dozen of them. Basically if you’re a viewpoint character in 40k you have meter-thick plot armor and will murder tens of thousands of the enemy with a rusty spoon. If you aren’t you’ll get your brains spattered on the wall by the first poxwalker that sees you.
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Captain Oblivious posted:You kill literally thousands of heretics as like four guys in this game. You were never playing as Some Guy and the story conceit that you are being completely at odds with the actual game being played turns the whole thing into farce. yes, that's canonically what the Emperor's Blessing does for you. it is actually and literally a thing in this universe. you can still be Some Guy but if you're given the thumbs up by the Big E through one of his agents, then you're running hot despite being a faceless nobody. this is how the imperium's psychic gestalt works and has always worked. it's where living saints come from. if you're an ork it's where the waaaagh comes from. it's where a lord general's retinue gets all of their BS and WS from and it is not a new idea.
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Hate how every Heresy or Damnation game I match make into is always 3 vets + 1 zealot, 2 vets + 2 zealots, 4 vets... (im part of the problem)
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Typical Pubbie posted:Hate how every Heresy or Damnation game I match make into is always 3 vets + 1 zealot, 2 vets + 2 zealots, 4 vets... (im part of the problem) I actually really like this as it usually means we have a higher chance of actually completing the thing because the more vets the less effort anything takes all around.
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Oh cool a game in-progress, let's see what-  https://i.imgur.com/fYeqkJd.mp4
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Sab Sabbington posted:I actually really like this as it usually means we have a higher chance of actually completing the thing because the more vets the less effort anything takes all around. I've had the most success on Damnation with balanced parties. CC is a huge deal at that level, it's sad most people don't find the Psyker fun to play.
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Exodee posted:Oh cool a game in-progress, let's see what- The emperor protects!
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Sharkopath posted:Theres a version of this game thats like a martian magos, eldar aspect warrior, space marine, and ork wierdboy in a shaky and incredibly unlikely teamup, and honestly the more i think about it the more id probably have enjoyed that as much if not more than the grounded aesthetic they gave it. More bouncing off of eachother and vastly different outlooks of situations between the characters, much more variety of exclusive equipment between classes, and the scale of the path of destruction we carve would still fit as well. This would be amazing. The characterization in this game is so weak. The idea of doing the same stuff but with four distinct and fleshed-out personalities is attractive and I'm bummed they didn't keep thay from VT2
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Sharkopath posted:Theres a version of this game thats like a martian magos, eldar aspect warrior, space marine, and ork wierdboy in a shaky and incredibly unlikely teamup, and honestly the more i think about it the more id probably have enjoyed that as much if not more than the grounded aesthetic they gave it. More bouncing off of eachother and vastly different outlooks of situations between the characters, much more variety of exclusive equipment between classes, and the scale of the path of destruction we carve would still fit as well. yesssss that be the best (gently caress the lore)
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Honestly even just four humans with actual names and backstories.
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Just let me play whatever class I want, even if there's already someone playing it. I don't care as much about all that interaction I just want to shoot lasguns. One of my biggest complaints about the other vermintides is that I could never play the same class because someone already in the game was already playing as it. Screw that.
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Sharkopath posted:Theres a version of this game thats like a martian magos, eldar aspect warrior, space marine, and ork wierdboy in a shaky and incredibly unlikely teamup, and honestly the more i think about it the more id probably have enjoyed that as much if not more than the grounded aesthetic they gave it. More bouncing off of eachother and vastly different outlooks of situations between the characters, much more variety of exclusive equipment between classes, and the scale of the path of destruction we carve would still fit as well. https://store.steampowered.com/app/56438/Dawn_of_War_II_Retribution__The_Last_Stand/
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Random Integer posted:There's a place you can play as a Space Marine or an Eldar or wherever and it's called every other 40k game. Glad we got at least one that the focus is on Joe Imperium. It would be cool if they did something interesting with Joe Imperium but instead they did this
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There's also Necromunda Hired Gun where you are a gang bounty hunter
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Imagine how many of these complaints they could have avoided if they'd just announced when they're going to start the first seasonal story update like so many of us assumed they'd do. Now I just have no idea if they plan on doing that at all.
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Fatshark is weird with it's updates, they hype up the paid winds of magic expansion for vermintide for months and it was a big wet flop with a unplayed game mode and splitting the hardest difficulty into only people who own it and untested annoying enemy types that all got nerfed eventually, then chaos wastes comes out of nowhere with no fanfare for free and is one of the most played and praised modes in the game. That PvP mode for vermintide will probably come out one day with like a week of heads up after nothing being heard about it since the trailer.
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For emperors gift items at the end of some missions, is the quality tied to mission difficulty at all or just character level?
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:Fatshark is weird with it's updates, they hype up the paid winds of magic expansion for vermintide for months and it was a big wet flop with a unplayed game mode and splitting the hardest difficulty into only people who own it and untested annoying enemy types that all got nerfed eventually, then chaos wastes comes out of nowhere with no fanfare for free and is one of the most played and praised modes in the game. I was one of the few people who actually enjoyed the Weaves a lot, and I'm still sad they basically abandoned it.
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I like the Graia a lot and might return to it if I get a 380 one day, but I'm really liking this after bouncing off of the Agripinaa first time around. Should I re-roll the perk to something else?
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Chromatics posted:For emperors gift items at the end of some missions, is the quality tied to mission difficulty at all or just character level? I've seen claims that it's based on the quality of your equipped gear, but when I'm playing a level 30 character, I get a mix of orange & purple gifts seemingly independent of whether my gear is all orange or a mix of blue/purple. And that's regardless of whether I'm doing difficulty lvl 4/5 runs for fun, or lvl 2 runs for to meet my weekly scrip contract. Edit: so I'd lean toward character level
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SplitSoul posted:I like the Graia a lot and might return to it if I get a 380 one day, but I'm really liking this after bouncing off of the Agripinaa first time around. Should I re-roll the perk to something else? Dang, that's near ideal except for the v. Carapace roll; IIRC even the Agripinaa, hard as it hits, still doesn't punch through Carapace well.
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toasterwarrior posted:Dang, that's near ideal except for the v. Carapace roll; IIRC even the Agripinaa, hard as it hits, still doesn't punch through Carapace well. I haven't managed to get two 25% perks on any 350+ weapon yet, and IIRC the re-rolled perk was 20% against Unarmored before. Emperor previously rewarded me with a Transcendent Agripinaa that had 7m Terrifying Barrage radius, but "only" 357 base and crap mobility, so I switched. Clip feels a little small at times, but it pops heads very effectively. But definitely stick with Unyielding, then?
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SplitSoul posted:I like the Graia a lot and might return to it if I get a 380 one day, but I'm really liking this after bouncing off of the Agripinaa first time around. Should I re-roll the perk to something else? +Crit does something weird right now where it increases your armor penetration even on non-crits. Bummer about that locked carapace
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Sharkopath posted:Theres a version of this game thats like a Bright Wizard, Wood Elf, Empire Soldier, Witch Hunter and a Dwarf Ranger in a shaky and incredibly unlikely teamup, and honestly the more i think about it the more id probably have enjoyed that as much if not more than the grounded aesthetic they gave it. More bouncing off of eachother and vastly different outlooks of situations between the characters, much more variety of exclusive equipment between classes, and the scale of the path of destruction we carve would still fit as well.  (This is why the decision to go with blank-slate characters still totally baffles me, tbh. The U5 were/are a big selling point of the previous games). You loe a whole bunch of charm and interesting dialogue and world-building in return for...the ability to choose between a bunch of different hairstyles 
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Sharkopath posted:Theres a version of this game thats like a martian magos, eldar aspect warrior, space marine, and ork wierdboy in a shaky and incredibly unlikely teamup, and honestly the more i think about it the more id probably have enjoyed that as much if not more than the grounded aesthetic they gave it. More bouncing off of eachother and vastly different outlooks of situations between the characters, much more variety of exclusive equipment between classes, and the scale of the path of destruction we carve would still fit as well. It would also cost a lot more time and money to make tbf
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