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Kin posted:I was planning on giving my kid a sort of hyper accelerated intro to computer games to try and teach him the appreciation of the evolution of them (if he cares about them instead of shite like sports and football and books). Don’t do this, just let them play what they want. If your kid wants to play old games, better to get them into it with stuff they can enjoy now and relate to their friends with, and THEN move backward, rather than forcing them to start at the beginning. There’s a reason that we start children reading with modern fun books they can enjoy, and that children’s movies start off now with Pixar and stuff that everyone can share, and then you introduce the classics…
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Random question. Is "rubbing alcohol" the same as "surgical spirit"?
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Kin posted:I was planning on giving my kid a sort of hyper accelerated intro to computer games I think spending time together is the most important thing. If you can set aside an hour to play games together once or twice a week, that'd be a great way to introduce your kid to games you loved. Instead of restricting access to what they can play on, it gives your kid the option to either keep playing on the classic consoles if they're having fun - or to go back to playing something newer if they prefer. They'll probably swap and change as things appeal to them. And at the very least, it'll build some great memories and bonding time for the two of you, which is the most important thing.
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Getting repeatedly scammed as a 13 year old in Ultima Online made me the man I am today.
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Timmy doesn't get to do his homework until he does his chores, worlds 6 to 8 of Super Mario World, and then clears the Water Temple in Zelda 64.
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please don't turn your kid's free time into more workOwlFancier posted:I feel similarly to it how I do about youtube, like yeah the capitalist element is clearly in conflict with the things I like, but the laissez faire approach does allow it to produce things that simply could not exist otherwise, and I want more of those things, I want models of social organization that allow for the production of more of those things while also solving the problems. my understanding is that Valve's non-hierarchical flat structure just meant all the hierarchies became invisible. the workers all still have bosses, but the bosses are bosses because they're more adept at social manipulation and politicking rather than passing a formal hiring process. meanwhile no games get made because none of the many, many bosses can agree on a common idea to develop into a game I would suggest Steam having a broad scope/lots of indie games is less any accomplishment of Valve's and more about the failure of the alternatives (many of which being just traditional publishers trying to wall off their own gardens, incredibly poorly, like "not having a shopping cart" poorly, good grief)
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happyhippy posted:clears the Water Temple in Zelda 64. Social services will take your kid away for this
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Got my kids a nintendo switch for christmas and they're just playing the SNES and NES games because those are free, drat thing itself cost enough. Their first actual console. They used to just play mobile games. We might buy some actual games later on but for now they can content themselves with the free stuff.
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"Look, 100%-ing games is character building, kid. So get cracking. Daddy's gamer score is more important than your free time."
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His Divine Shadow posted:Got my kids a nintendo switch for christmas and they're just playing the SNES and NES games because those are free
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You will clear every icon off this map Timmy I swear to god
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Teach kids about the internet in the traditional way: unsupervised downloading from IRC of definitely-not-Star-Trek pictures from someone who said they would send some cool Star Trek pictures.
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Payndz posted:Wait what. (Got my son a Switch for his birthday, but it's mainly been a Minecraft machine.) Yeah you can download two nintendo packs for NES and SNES and they are filled with games for those consoles. The thing that does cost is a nintendo membership though... But it didn't seem you could do much without that. Far from all titles though! No megaman or tetris, only tetris I found was Tetrs 99 which only had multiplayer modes for free. Multiplayer Tetris? Few worse ideas I can think of.
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domhal posted:Teach kids about the internet in the traditional way: unsupervised downloading from IRC of definitely-not-Star-Trek pictures from someone who said they would send some cool Star Trek pictures. Look I went through my adolescence with completely unsupervised access to the Internet and I turned out fine, except for all my hosed up fetishes Like enjoying star trek
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I bought my kid Pokémon violet because? Idk it’s what all her friends are playing and she already has the scarlet one so now she can be like “yeh I got both”.  “They got me a switch and only let me play the free games from when my dad was my age” isn’t awesome and great to be brutally honest.
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The Nintendo membership only gates online play and the emulators. They could perfectly happily play, say, Untitled Goose Game without it. There's no Mega Man because those are sold as the Legacy Collection packs. If you want a good Tetris game, get the latest Puyo Puyo Tetris - you can play either game by itself or mixed in the weird vs mode.
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Payndz posted:Wait what. (Got my son a Switch for his birthday, but it's mainly been a Minecraft machine.) They aren’t free, you have to pay for the Nintendo Online subscription service to get access. But it’s relatively cheap, less so with the add-on that gives you N64 and Mega Drive games.
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Dec 27, 2022 13:03
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The most expensive Nintendo Online pass is cheaper than the cheapest Playstation Plus lol.
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My nephews both have the Switch but for some reason they're obsessed with Super Mario Land 2 on Game Boy whenever I'm looking after them and they have access to my vast retrogaming collection. No idea why this game in particular has had them gripped for literally years.
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learnincurve posted:I bought my kid Pokémon violet because? Idk it’s what all her friends are playing and she already has the scarlet one so now she can be like “yeh I got both”. Criticising someone else’s game buying choices when you just bought your kid literally the same game they already have with a few palette swaps isn’t awesome or great either, fwiw.
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Microplastics posted:Look I went through my adolescence with completely unsupervised access to the Internet and I turned out fine, except for all my hosed up fetishes Timmy, its time for 'the talk'. Basically Timmy, xhamster is better than brazzers and pornhub.
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Yeah Roblox is pretty much the poster child for online economies and what unregulated capitalism would look like. Wild exploitation, insider trading, pyramid schemes, dark patterns. Its honestly impressive. It gets away with it because it looks like utter poo poo, is incomprehensible to most adults and provides entertainment for lots of kids. Despite those videos. (for similar reasons that crypto remains a thing and tiktok despite privacy issues etc.) My specialism is ethical monetisation and honestly even in that field nobody knows a loving thing about real economics (myself included, as all I've really done is read this thread and watched lots of Mark Blythe videos) and even less about ethics. I read a lot of behavioural psychology like Dan Ariely and most discourse online is so far off the mark with how games are actually made its comical. Most games are just blindly copying other games' designs with a few minor tweaks. Especially when it comes down to business models and player behaviour, because anyone who genuinely understands that would be insane to go work in games.
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Lt. Danger posted:please don't turn your kid's free time into more work This. As a kid, enjoyment of reading or visiting ancient sites or whatever was spoiled because as soon as you got home / finished the book, you had tea and then had to spend the evening writing about them. Couldn't just enjoy it for what it was. Turned me into the joyless b*ch I am today (according to some).
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History Comes Inside! posted:Criticising someone else’s game buying choices when you just bought your kid literally the same game they already have with a few palette swaps isn’t awesome or great either, fwiw. Being fair I learned this the hard way when I asked for Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow as a kid and was so excited until I realised I had the same game three times. Mebh posted:Yeah Roblox is pretty much the poster child for online economies and what unregulated capitalism would look like. Wild exploitation, insider trading, pyramid schemes, dark patterns. And the child sexual abuse. Both for unregulated capitalism and Roblox.
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I don't think I will allow my kids to play online games for a good while yet.
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Yeah, if they're enjoying the old games and actively choosing to play them when given the option then I'm not sure what's "not great" about that personally.
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Those old games had a lot of care put into making them fun and look as good as possible with the limited palettes they had back then. There was something to be said that for a period after the turn of the millennium as graphics got better there was a focus on style over substance, specifically about having kicking rad graphics even if the gameplay is dogshit.
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My sister's little girl loves Minecraft and Slime Rancher more than anything. She uses Minecraft only to collect cats. One time they gave her the controller during a game of PUBG and she ran into a house and asked how she could do the washing up that was in the sink.
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HopperUK posted:One time they gave her the controller during a game of PUBG and she ran into a house and asked how she could do the washing up that was in the sink. drat the patriarchy works fast.
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His Divine Shadow posted:I don't think I will allow my kids to play online games for a good while yet. I don't know the specifics of age, but I'd suggest prohibition only works for so long and they'll just go even more off the rails once unleashed. I know I did. I'd absolutely encourage playing online games that they want to play alongside them.
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Also we were playing Baby's First Monopoly and she leaned over and whispered 'If Uncle Roger runs out of money, I want to give him some of mine' so she's doing great
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Ban adults from the internet imo https://twitter.com/kibblesmith/status/800073077799473152
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The LEGO series looks to be good for young kids to mess about with. Humble Bundle was selling nine for like 10 quid recently, so thought why not and got it.
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Mebh posted:I don't know the specifics of age, but I'd suggest prohibition only works for so long and they'll just go even more off the rails once unleashed. I know I did. Pick games like Splatoon where there's no in-game chat so even if your teammate is a nazi paedophile there's no way of knowing and they can't do poo poo to your kid.
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happyhippy posted:The LEGO series looks to be good for young kids to mess about with. Lego City Undercover is great, even though about cops. My favourite though is Lego DC Super Villains. It's loving great and I think kids would love it because you are playing the baddies, but like, kid-friendly, misbehaving versions of baddies. I just enjoy that I can be the Reverse Flash (best of all baddies) and gently caress up Gotham City.
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Yeah, the Lego games are brilliant and I'd have totally loved them as a kid. Hell, I love them now too.
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Certainly better than the Lego Builder game I asked for as present decades ago that didn't loving run for some reason I could not troubleshoot.
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Received Lego Star Wars (9-film Skywalker Saga edition) for Christmas and will be working through it with my 7yo over the next however many months (and then going back to 100% it on my own time)
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Ah, but don't we all have memories of our parents cluelessly getting us a videogame for christmas that was never going to work on the The Family Computer For me it was some tank simulator
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