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Should I step down as head of twitter
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Cabbages and VHS
Aug 25, 2004

Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.
trying to wrap my head around this because even if you had good reasons for doing everything client side there's no actual need or good reason to display unwanted content briefly. (Granted, it would be in the network traffic and be just as bad from a security perspective, but not the lovely UX issues).

if the client is displaying things it should not be privy to (like the data from protected tweets) that sounds like at least two problems: a back end that's returning privileged data and allowing the front end to decide what chunks of it to display (very bad, duh) and a lovely front end that's doing some asynchronous things in the wrong order and flashing the wrong content briefly (sorta bad, but also a class of problem that any number of enterprise sites will sometimes exhibit, because Async Is Hard, people rely on frameworks but then tweak things, etc).

I don't want to be too optimistic but this sounds like exactly the kind of horseshit you'd expect when a running-in-production behemoth of a system is slowly taken apart and has bits retooled by people who don't understand why the underlaying things are as they are, and also the people who you would expect to be performing usual maintenance on those things, are gone.

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Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004





Under $100 be year end, surely.

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

how many hunter biden laptops do you suppose are tucked under that night stand

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Is that a euphemism?

ReidRansom
Oct 25, 2004


Ahahaha premarket on TSLA.... all that stored up dumping ordered over the holiday

Mikojan
May 12, 2010

Premarket usually doesn’t mean much tbh, but watching number go down activates my monkey neurons like no other

mik
Oct 16, 2003
oh

Mikojan posted:

Premarket usually doesn’t mean much tbh, but watching number go down activates my monkey neurons like no other

Normally it doesn't mean much if it's very thinly traded, but there's been 6m shares traded already, so it's a different story.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Infinitum posted:



Under $100 be year end, surely.

Yoiks, and away! (to getting margin called)

Steadiman
Jan 31, 2006

Hey...what kind of party is this? there's no booze and only one hooker!

silly sevens

Cabbages and Kings posted:

trying to wrap my head around this because even if you had good reasons for doing everything client side there's no actual need or good reason to display unwanted content briefly. (Granted, it would be in the network traffic and be just as bad from a security perspective, but not the lovely UX issues).

if the client is displaying things it should not be privy to (like the data from protected tweets) that sounds like at least two problems: a back end that's returning privileged data and allowing the front end to decide what chunks of it to display (very bad, duh) and a lovely front end that's doing some asynchronous things in the wrong order and flashing the wrong content briefly (sorta bad, but also a class of problem that any number of enterprise sites will sometimes exhibit, because Async Is Hard, people rely on frameworks but then tweak things, etc).

I don't want to be too optimistic but this sounds like exactly the kind of horseshit you'd expect when a running-in-production behemoth of a system is slowly taken apart and has bits retooled by people who don't understand why the underlaying things are as they are, and also the people who you would expect to be performing usual maintenance on those things, are gone.
https://twitter.com/DPeniz/status/1607624048061677568
You can see it happening in this little video of Piers' account, I think it's the same with protected tweets. Flashes and then shows as unavailable. Maybe shutting off those microservices wasn't the best idea

E the Shaggy
Mar 29, 2010
Missing from Elon’s bedside table: pictures of his children.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
$109 is Tesla’s true value, if it dips below that then this is when the bomb is going off for the long term high volume investors who matter not these piss and vinegar “I got my pension in this to own the libs” small fry.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
I don't understand, is 'Pre-market' what will definitely happen, or may happen when it opens again?

geonetix
Mar 6, 2011


learnincurve posted:

$109 is Tesla’s true value, if it dips below that then this is when the bomb is going off for the long term high volume investors who matter not these piss and vinegar “I got my pension in this to own the libs” small fry.

How is $109 Tesla's true value? That still seems hyperinflated

Kale
May 14, 2010

It came up in this thread a few days back but it's very obvious the Edward Norton character in Glass Onion is meant to be Elon Musk. :lol:

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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pixaal posted:

You have confused Riddler for Joker

Next you're gonna tell me Batman and Man-Bat are two different and unrelated characters in the same show

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
More like the Dork Knight 🤣🤣🤣

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Powershift posted:

The internet actually bullied him into getting coasters.

Maybe it's not entirely bad.

Trolled him, you mean.

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

Kale posted:

It came up in this thread a few days back but it's very obvious the Edward Norton character in Glass Onion is meant to be Elon Musk. :lol:

Miles Bron had friends and bought things that made him happy. Couldn't be Elon.

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!

geonetix posted:

How is $109 Tesla's true value? That still seems hyperinflated

He bought in at 120 and can't conceive of being that wrong

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

geonetix posted:

How is $109 Tesla's true value? That still seems hyperinflated

If you take out all of the Elon musk hype train bubble which starts in the last quarter of 2019 and make the line go up in a normal way, adjusting for various splits and blips in the market that every company had, then you get $109

sarcastx
Feb 26, 2005



learnincurve posted:

If you take out all of the Elon musk hype train bubble which starts in the last quarter of 2019 and make the line go up in a normal way, adjusting for various splits and blips in the market that every company had, then you get $109

right, so still overvalued stockmarket speculative bullshit

tesla isn't """""worth""""" more than the trademark for the F-150, let alone Ford itself

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon

happyhippy posted:

I don't understand, is 'Pre-market' what will definitely happen, or may happen when it opens again?
They are trades that did happen in realtime in the pre-market trading hours. Most exchanges have some hours pre- and post-market but the majority of trades are still during regular hours.

Kale
May 14, 2010

kazil posted:

Miles Bron had friends and bought things that made him happy. Couldn't be Elon.

Well there's other things like the Miles not being absolutely obsessed with and finding dumb memes hilarious and not having a phone or being aggressively online with social media, but he's still clearly the basis for the character IMO.

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

Kale posted:

Well there's other things like the Miles not being absolutely obsessed with and finding dumb memes hilarious and not having a phone or being aggressively online with social media, but he's still clearly the basis for the character IMO.

The character is a parody of all tech bros. The movie was written long before Elon went super crazy with Twitter. It just lines up extremely well right now.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


happyhippy posted:

I don't understand, is 'Pre-market' what will definitely happen, or may happen when it opens again?

People are actually trading shares at these prices, but so many people wait for the real bell that over 1000 times as many shares as traded between 4AM and 9:30AM will be traded in the first 5 minutes which can easily wash it out. Large funds will often put in Market of Open and Market on Close orders too which happen at you guessed it, the bells.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

learnincurve posted:

If you take out all of the Elon musk hype train bubble which starts in the last quarter of 2019 and make the line go up in a normal way, adjusting for various splits and blips in the market that every company had, then you get $109
Wouldn't that still make it's more valuable than all other manufacturers combined? That's still way too high.


kazil posted:

The character is a parody of all tech bros. The movie was written long before Elon went super crazy with Twitter. It just lines up extremely well right now.
I thought so too but they specifically mention Alpha Space and Alpha Cars which is a little on the nose

mik
Oct 16, 2003
oh

happyhippy posted:

I don't understand, is 'Pre-market' what will definitely happen, or may happen when it opens again?

Stocks trade continuously between 4am and 8pm. But there's a lot less buying/selling activity outside regular hours. This makes quotes less reliable because big buyers/sellers can move the price more easily, and there's also less people willing to buy and sell which means the bid-ask spread can be much larger. But with TLSA right now, there's so much pre-market activity that it's more or less acting as if its trading during regular trading hours, meaning the current quoted price is "accurate".

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

sarcastx posted:

right, so still overvalued stockmarket speculative bullshit

tesla isn't """""worth""""" more than the trademark for the F-150, let alone Ford itself

That’s where these waiting for $109 with popcorn people are coming from, like if Amazon is worth $85.25 when how the gently caress is Tesla worth more? It just isn’t, and the real long term investors know this and are just going to get the gently caress out if it drops below that number, because once that happens it’s going to be line go down to $25.

Tulips.

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

kazil posted:

The character is a parody of all tech bros. The movie was written long before Elon went super crazy with Twitter. It just lines up extremely well right now.

It's funny as gently caress that basically all big name tech bros are one of a) Rich Dude Who Got Rich With Shares From Some Buyout And Never Did Anything Themselves or b) Rich Dude Who Had One Idea That Sold And All His Other Ideas Are Hilariously Bad. Like, whichever terrible techbro is in the news, Bron would work as a parody of them, it's just pretty hilarious that it's Musk RN.

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Kale posted:

Well there's other things like the Miles not being absolutely obsessed with and finding dumb memes hilarious and not having a phone or being aggressively online with social media, but he's still clearly the basis for the character IMO.

Not having a phone and thinking Faxes are cool still aligns with Elon in a general sense if you treat them as arbitrary whims of an idiot who thinks he's clever and eccentric.

Like firing all the key staff that keep your newly-bought company working because you wanted to downsize and they didn't seem to do anything. Ditto for disabling microservices to see if anything breaks.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


learnincurve posted:

That’s where these waiting for $109 with popcorn people are coming from, like if Amazon is worth $85.25 when how the gently caress is Tesla worth more?

You can't compare straight stock prices you need to compare market cap, which is stock price * number of shares. There's stocks of tiny companies that are worth $100+ and massively valuable companies with shares worth $50.

Based off... I think the last close price? I dunno
Amazon: 869Billion
Tesla: 385Billion

It still shouldn't be half an amazon.

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

Danger - Octopus! posted:

It's funny as gently caress that basically all big name tech bros are one of a) Rich Dude Who Got Rich With Shares From Some Buyout And Never Did Anything Themselves or b) Rich Dude Who Had One Idea That Sold And All His Other Ideas Are Hilariously Bad. Like, whichever terrible techbro is in the news, Bron would work as a parody of them, it's just pretty hilarious that it's Musk RN.

Yeah. I worry that the takeaway for many of the film will be "Elon Musk is dumb" and not "all tech bros are dumb"

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Danger - Octopus! posted:

It's funny as gently caress that basically all big name tech bros are one of a) Rich Dude Who Got Rich With Shares From Some Buyout And Never Did Anything Themselves or b) Rich Dude Who Had One Idea That Sold And All His Other Ideas Are Hilariously Bad. Like, whichever terrible techbro is in the news, Bron would work as a parody of them, it's just pretty hilarious that it's Musk RN.

What I think is adjacently funny is that "tech bro" is becoming an extremely bad descriptor for the kind of people these awkward nerds are. They're not spiky mcpopcollar with wraparound shades talking about NFTs in some exclusive nightspot in a movie, they're a pasty goblin falling in the surf and being sprayed down with buckets of sunblock by Enrique because they've read that this is what cool hu-mons do for fun.

Withnail
Feb 11, 2004
https://companiesmarketcap.com/automakers/largest-automakers-by-market-cap/

Just switch from market cap/earnings/revenue

StrangersInTheNight
Dec 31, 2007
ABSOLUTE FUCKING GUDGEON
it is because they hate women. bros before hos etc etc. thus, techbros.

Klyith
Aug 3, 2007

GBS Pledge Week

learnincurve posted:

If you take out all of the Elon musk hype train bubble which starts in the last quarter of 2019

lmao musk was hyping the stock on flim-flam long before 2019 dummy

his stupid "private at 420" tweet was in 2018, and that was after he'd run out of ideas for non-illegal hype, like cybertrucks and human robots and your car being a part-time fsd taxi

gschmidl
Sep 3, 2011

watch with knife hands

kazil posted:

The character is a parody of all tech bros. The movie was written long before Elon went super crazy with Twitter. It just lines up extremely well right now.

If I were Johnson I'd also say that so the thin-skinned shitboer and his army of morons wouldn't come after me.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

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Anyway lmao @ him being a born salesman and marketer. Having heard him talk recently it's beyond obvious that he couldn't sell ice water to a man dying in the desert. He's just a guy with a lot of money and a big vocabulary of worthless factoids that make him sound smart, someone who can wander into a board room and mumble incoherently for a while and barf out some incomprehensible theory and everyone just assumes they're in the presence of brain genius royalty and nobody is willing to admit they had no idea what the gently caress he was talking about and look stupid in front of everyone else.

Just like none of those New Jersey politicians or lenders wanted to be the one to not have Donald Trump running their Atlantic City casinos and attracting the tourists to the golden trash riviera, so they all just rubber-stamped more enormous loans to dump in a hole

Data Graham fucked around with this message at 15:28 on Dec 27, 2022

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

learnincurve posted:

If you take out all of the Elon musk hype train bubble which starts in the last quarter of 2019 and make the line go up in a normal way, adjusting for various splits and blips in the market that every company had, then you get $109

Lmao yes the Elon musk hype train bubble didn’t start until 2019 get the gently caress outta here.

The true value of Tesla is less than Ford and you don’t get to that neighborhood until the stock is about $12.

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learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Look at the stock price figures you unnecessary aggressive weirdos, the Tesla bubble started to inflate last quarter of 2019, it was on a normal steady trajectory till then. It may all have seemed to start earlier because of 2020 warping everyone’s perception of time though.

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