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loquacius posted:Rian Johnson's tendency toward meta bullshit like this is actually possibly the most annoying thing about him, and this was not my favorite aspect of a perfectly fine movie he's a fine, clever writer but he wants to be so goddamned sure that you see the clever thing he did and that desperation is very off-putting
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Redezga posted:I was mad at The Rock and saying he's a fraud when all Under Armour's lovely labour practices like evidence of sweatshop forced labour became very public and he refused to say anything about it despite having the audacity to have a finishing move called the "People's Elbow". whats so bad about that those sweatpants arent going to make themselves
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loquacius posted:what does he have to say that is worth taking 17 minutes longer than it took to tell the Godfather story the greatest story ever told
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One more post:loquacius posted:Rian Johnson's tendency toward meta bullshit like this is actually possibly the most annoying thing about him, and this was not my favorite aspect of a perfectly fine movie Rereading this post actually made me realize that (Glass Onion spoilers) the motherfucker has done the "burning a sacred artifact" thing twice now
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loquacius posted:Rian Johnson's tendency toward meta bullshit like this is actually possibly the most annoying thing about him, and this was not my favorite aspect of a perfectly fine movie I'd actually fully agree on that re: TLJ there's a lot of stuff to criticize to but that's sort of what ties it all together - it'd be one thing if it was just a bad movie in isolation, that it's a bad movie that only "works" as a meta-commentary on (and in relation to) prior films that it suggests we need to move beyond, while simultaneously being much worse than those films at basic aspects of movie-making is what moves me to active dislike rather than indifference
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loquacius posted:My wife just became actually IRL mad at James Cameron upon looking into Avatar 2 and finding that it is 17 minutes longer than The Godfather does she also hate gone with the wind
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LGD posted:I'd actually fully agree on that re: TLJ so what youre saying is that the last jedi is to star wars what cabin in the woods is to horror movies
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Some Guy TT posted:so what youre saying is that the last jedi is to star wars what cabin in the woods is to horror movies He's not Whedon-bad but he's definitely closer to Jonathan Nolan than a Christopher Nolan and he thinks it's the other way around
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ArmZ posted:does she also hate gone with the wind "Never seen it." *pause to Google running time* "THREE HOURS AND FORTY-TWO MINUTES???"
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loquacius posted:"Never seen it." *pause to Google running time* "THREE HOURS AND FORTY-TWO MINUTES???" lmao
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a new study bible! posted:the glass onion mirrors the plot, yes. I’m talking about the quality of the film itself. I doubt the writer would poo poo on his own movie in the way I’m saying the monologue parallels. Benoit's monologue is not about how the glass onion is a bad metaphor. It's actually a good metaphor for the case because he accidentally wound himself up into thinking things were far more complicated than they actually were and his Achilles' heel, as he states multiple times in the movie, is having a hard time perceiving dumb things. That's what he's talking about when he talks about that metaphor. Rian Johnson did not accidentally write about how his own movie was bad. loquacius posted:Rian Johnson's tendency toward meta bullshit like this is actually possibly the most annoying thing about him, and this was not my favorite aspect of a perfectly fine movie The title of a movie relating to a movie's structure and themes is not meta bullshit what the gently caress
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If he was making it for 12 years then it loving better be 4 hours long
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spider has about 17 minutes of screentime, so there's your answer
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1stGear posted:Benoit's monologue is not about how the glass onion is a bad metaphor. It's actually a good metaphor for the case because he accidentally wound himself up into thinking things were far more complicated than they actually were and his Achilles' heel, as he states multiple times in the movie, is having a hard time perceiving dumb things. its not just benoit who has trouble with this the only reason the first victim died was due to taking literally no preparatory measures against a person they knew full well had good reason to want them dead because actually doing the murder was such a stupid idea it didnt seem to warrant serious consideration thats another part of the murderers stupidity that the script doesnt really vocalize there was no need to kill the first victim at all just knock them out steal the macguffin and continue the gaslighting the murder added a lot of extra steps and risks for basically no actual benefit of course the first victim was still dumb as hell for not documenting or backing up the macguffin in any way for these exact same reasons
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1stGear posted:Benoit's monologue is not about how the glass onion is a bad metaphor. It's actually a good metaphor for the case because he accidentally wound himself up into thinking things were far more complicated than they actually were and his Achilles' heel, as he states multiple times in the movie, is having a hard time perceiving dumb things. That's what he's talking about when he talks about that metaphor. Rian Johnson did not accidentally write about how his own movie was bad. That was my point, dummy. The movie is shallow and stupid (technically it’s pretty good) but it desperately wants to be more than that. Of course he didn’t write that intentionally, but its true.
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a new study bible! posted:That was my point, dummy. "The writer accomplished exactly what they set out to do, clearly this makes them desperate and bad."
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intentionally subverting the norms of the genre to write a lovely movie
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Rian Johnson is able to make a lot of viewers feel like they are clever. Which I guess is a skill.
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LGD posted:I'd actually fully agree on that re: TLJ
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alien titty milk is also pretty cool. i guess
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:he's a fine, clever writer but he wants to be so goddamned sure that you see the clever thing he did and that desperation is very off-putting yeah p much. Hes ham handed
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Some Guy TT posted:so what youre saying is that the last jedi is to star wars what cabin in the woods is to horror movies eh idk, one is an original oops-all-genre-pastiche and the other is a direct sequel to a handful of specific films that is (or was) ostensibly part of a coherent multi-film narrative, which influences how they sit in conversation/relation to other films and our (reasonable) expectations and interpretations
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i say swears online posted:the remake was way better than i was expecting and i thought he killed it jack black is pure charisma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxjnJMc_qWs
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loquacius posted:Rian Johnson's tendency toward meta bullshit like this is actually possibly the most annoying thing about him, and this was not my favorite aspect of a perfectly fine movie They didn't burn the sacred texts though, it turns out Ray had stolen them and had them stashed in the glove compartment of the falcon.
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just watched Cyber Vengeance (1995) - went in expecting just a plain jane everyday stupid movie but man oh man did this resonate in ways i wasnt expecting. the premise is rich people using virtual reality to hunt death row convicts in various custom-tailored scenarios, but what the movie is really about is a fuckin awful know-it-all using his powers of well, actually to beat a bunch of pay-to-win dinguses at a historical PvP game while bitching about lovely game balance. the first five minutes of the movie are the main character losing to a boss fight in a game and then immediately getting on social media to bitch at the company about how the boss has era and region inappropriate martial arts techniques and that's the only reason he lost, and thats not me joking thats the setup for the rest of the movie. theres a slow and largely disposable first act but once my dude is strapped into the VR hunt its an hour of wonderfully camp historical reenactment action scenes, like if John Ritter in Stay Tuned got warped into an aughts-era dad movie marathon on TNT. it's also an hour of "well actually our pistols only have seven rounds because theyre prohibition era forty five caliber colts" and "well actually us being british redcoats might not get us shot at by colonists if this is the battle where they joined up against the french" and "well actually if we're dressed as nazi ss and this is 1945 then make sure you only surrender to americans and not russians so you might get medical care and food instead of immediately murdered" and highschool me was unbearably nodding his head at it going "uh huh uh huh hes right you know!" its corny and its over-the-top and the pacing and script are whatever, but it is sincere as you can be at adapting Trivial Pursuit to an action movie and if youre also bad in the brain you might also appreciate it  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr8G3_BmfGc
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The Rock needs to finally get to star in that Doc Savage movie that's been in development hell forever, he basically was that in Jumanji
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ArmZ posted:does she also hate gone with the wind You should hate GWTW for unrelated reasons
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Doktor Avalanche posted:I forgot Cena, I know he's been doing movies for the last 6 or 7 years but he really found his sea legs when Xi and the CPC got him the Peacemaker role in SS. What has Bautista done outside of playing dumb muscle guy anyways?
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Femur posted:Being a pretender gives you that ability, only the king can around walk naked. played a soulful old android in Blade Runner 2047, and did an excellent job of it played an irritated cog in the vampire political machine in What We Do In The Shadows, and did an excellent job of it I wish he'd take more serious roles, he seems content to be typecast unfortunately
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Hes gonna be in that new M. Night movie. He gained weight for the role too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wiBHEACNHs apatheticman has issued a correction as of 05:57 on Dec 28, 2022 |
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Xaris posted:this is fair. i was going to say the meta-commentary that is in relationship to the franchise is literally the only good and interesting thing about TLJ, which i believe is still true; however, that in itself is also damning b/c it also does not offer anything else because it sucks as a movie too so in some ways it fails as a meta-commentary because it's vastly easier to go "lol this sux am i rite guys?" but then actually much harder to go "what if we did this instead, isn't this much cooler am i rite guys?" I have the least popular opinion that the hour long part with Benecio Del Toro as a slicer in the casino, who is never heard from again, is the most interesting part of The Last Jedi. Although at this point I like anything that is not about loving Jedi much better than anything force related in the star wars universe.
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Substandard posted:I have the least popular opinion that the hour long part with Benecio Del Toro as a slicer in the casino, who is never heard from again, is the most interesting part of The Last Jedi. making Viktor Bout a star wars character sure was a choice
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Bro Dad posted:also michael rooker Rooker is good in everything. Did anyone else watch Bloodline?? Goddamn it is the finest soap opera
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