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crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

from the asia thread:

Red and Black posted:

Whatever happened to the US/Europe attempting to put a price cap on buying Russian oil? It's probably going great right?

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/putin-bans-russian-oil-exports-countries-that-imposed-price-cap-decree-2022-12-27/

quote:
MOSCOW, Dec 27 (Reuters) - President Vladimir Putin on Tuesday delivered Russia's long-awaited response to a Western price cap, signing a decree that bans the supply of crude oil and oil products from Feb. 1 for five months to nations that abide by the cap.

Oh...

# ? Dec 28, 2022 05:10

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# ? Jun 8, 2024 03:40

crepeface: Nov 5, 2004; r*p*f*c*

another one from the asia thread that i forgot to post in this thread yesterday

crepeface posted:

https://www.reuters.com/markets/currencies/yuans-new-dollar-russia-rides-redback-2022-11-28/

quote:
"What happened was that it became suddenly very risky and expensive to keep traditional currencies - dollar, euro, British pounds," said Andrei Akopian, managing director of Moscow-based investment firm Caderus Capital, citing the potential danger of a bank that keeps foreign currency deposits being sanctioned.

Indeed, yuan-rouble trading totalled 185 billion yuan in October, more than 80 times the level seen in February when Russia launched what it refers to as a "special military operation" in Ukraine near the end of the month, according to exchange data.

The surge of interest has seen the yuan's share of the currency market jump to 40-45% from less than 1% at the start of the year, said Dmitry Piskulov, international projects head at the Moscow Exchange's foreign-exchange market department.

By comparison, the dollar/rouble pair, which commanded more than 80% of trading volumes on the Russian market in January, has seen its share drop to about 40% as of October, according to exchange data and the central bank.

what if we try another round of sanctions

# ? Dec 28, 2022 05:15

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/1607946604920569857

# ? Dec 28, 2022 06:12

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

What on earth

# ? Dec 28, 2022 06:18

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

"why won't these rude foreign people speak in a language i understand??"

# ? Dec 28, 2022 06:20

Spaced God: Feb 8, 2014; All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!

The British, famously welcoming to migrants

*Image of that one woman on the boat shooting at migrants in the Med goes here*

# ? Dec 28, 2022 06:24

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

don't forget how they voted to torpedo their own country just so they could get less immigrants

# ? Dec 28, 2022 06:27

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Truga posted:

don't forget how they voted to torpedo their own country just so they could get less immigrants

the most respectful thing the brits have ever done

# ? Dec 28, 2022 06:29

Rent-A-Cop: Oct 15, 2004; I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Truga posted:

don't forget how they voted to torpedo their own country just so they could get less immigrants

Flushing your country down the shitter so you don't have to tolerate Polish plumbers will be hilarious until the day Britain sinks into the sea.

# ? Dec 28, 2022 06:30

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/1607946604920569857

Murtaza has been churning out some real hot takes for a while now. They do something to the Intercept contributors that make them very powerful posters.

# ? Dec 28, 2022 06:45

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

needs the whole thread for the full impact
https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/1607947011126427649?s=20&t=fDA1P_mDJGfE8bZCoiTonA
https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/1607949993825943555?s=20&t=fDA1P_mDJGfE8bZCoiTonA

# ? Dec 28, 2022 06:46

Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

Rent-A-Cop posted:

Flushing your country down the shitter so you don't have to tolerate Polish plumbers will be hilarious until the day Britain sinks into the sea.

have there been any updates on Putin's nuclear tsunami bomb?

# ? Dec 28, 2022 06:48

Lostconfused: Oct 1, 2008

Refugees commonly known to not drown in the ocean when near an anglophone shore.

# ? Dec 28, 2022 06:54

Slavvy: Dec 11, 2012

Atrocious Joe posted:

needs the whole thread for the full impact
https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/1607947011126427649?s=20&t=fDA1P_mDJGfE8bZCoiTonA
https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/1607949993825943555?s=20&t=fDA1P_mDJGfE8bZCoiTonA

Need a

but the button says FF!?

# ? Dec 28, 2022 06:54

Atrocious Joe: Sep 2, 2011

https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/1598558834263572480?s=20&t=8Opu4KU8lSKGqNYR8pAGiA

# ? Dec 28, 2022 06:58

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/1607946604920569857

Ontario had open communal violence until the 1920s and the Orange Order controlled Provincial and municipal politics until the 60�s.

Lol literally every small town in Ontario has the old Anglican, Presbyterian and Catholic churches on opposite ends of the original town, and there are several places where there is no Catholic church for a hundred kilometres or more, with streets named after the Boyne, William and Londonderry.

This is what happens when history starts in 1991.

It�s loving hilarious to paint Quebec as the bad guys here.

# ? Dec 28, 2022 07:26

Grognan: Jan 23, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

sum posted:

Goddamn someone get these guys a Lada or something.
https://twitter.com/THEFLOWER008/status/1607437726659366917

lol we explicitly trained not to do that because if somebody hucked a grenade/mortar/anything at you it would hit a lot more people in your formation rather than staying 3m apart, staggered on each side of the road

# ? Dec 28, 2022 07:26

Danann: Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/VonClownsewitz/status/1607403556621123584

# ? Dec 28, 2022 07:45

Ardennes: May 12, 2002

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Waterloo is one of those battle that hangs on in Anglo historiography because it flatters their detestable nation. It's all the more insulting that it was a mostly irrelevant engagement, which is true of many other beloved Anglo stories like Agincourt or the Spanish Armada.

Are brave lads held a ridgeline against the shittiest version of Napoleon's army until a boatload of Prussians showed up. This SAVED the CRITICAL nation of Belgium, which was the only country left standing against the French. Russia and Austria? Leipzig? What's that?

Admittedly if you give Napoleon an opening he would take it, and if he had won at Waterloo (defeat the British then wheel to face the Prussians), it may have actually given him more breathing room to stablize the situation in France. That said, France at that point had been exhausted by years of warfare and it was unlikely Napoleon could have returned the status quo. The British are patting them their selves on the back for "ending that detestable Corsican."

Also, in all honesty, the changes that Napoleon across Europe were positive and moved up trends (like a united Italy and a united Germany not dominated by Prussia) that would take decades if not another century to work their ways out.

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Honestly, I think most of what is being posted about Galicia and Austria-Hungary is fine, it very much was an imagined nation and more or less the discussion follows the general historiography. Admittedly, I think the issue isn't Galicia's history or it is some "cursed land" but really it just didn't have a history really in common with much of the rest of present-day Ukraine.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 07:56 on Dec 28, 2022

# ? Dec 28, 2022 07:52

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

Slim Jim Pickens posted:

Waterloo is one of those battle that hangs on in Anglo historiography because it flatters their detestable nation. It's all the more insulting that it was a mostly irrelevant engagement, which is true of many other beloved Anglo stories like Agincourt or the Spanish Armada.

Are brave lads held a ridgeline against the shittiest version of Napoleon's army until a boatload of Prussians showed up. This SAVED the CRITICAL nation of Belgium, which was the only country left standing against the French. Russia and Austria? Leipzig? What's that?

Ardennes posted:

Admittedly if you give Napoleon an opening he would take it, and if he had won at Waterloo (defeat the British then wheel to face the Prussians), it may have actually given him more breathing room to get France back up to speed. That said, France at that point had been exhausted by years of warfare and it was unlikely Napoleon could have returned the status quo. The British are patting them their selves on the back for "ending that detestable Corsican."

thinking of becoming a "Russia was actually the one that won the war in Europe, not the Anglos" guy, but for the Napoleonic era

# ? Dec 28, 2022 07:54

Ardennes: May 12, 2002

Yeah, Napoleon wasn't going to be marching across Europe again, even if he has won at Waterloo, there just wasn't the reserves. Britain just didn't want a relatively strong France contesting their interests (does this sound familiar?)

# ? Dec 28, 2022 08:01

CODChimera: Jan 29, 2009

if ur not in a tank and not in an aircraft then where the gently caress are you? in a trench getting blown up by artillery? that doesn't sound better at all

# ? Dec 28, 2022 08:17

Danann: Aug 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1605298736972038144

ukraine's erecting fences around artillery guns to try to keep the lancets away

# ? Dec 28, 2022 08:23

Endman: May 18, 2010; That is not dead which can eternal lie, And with strange aeons even anime may die

gradenko_2000 posted:

thinking of becoming a "Russia was actually the one that won the war in Europe, not the Anglos" guy, but for the Napoleonic era

I mean you wouldn't technically be wrong. It's a lot more complex than that, but Russia certainly contributed the greatest amount to militarily defeating Napoleon on land.

The greatest contribution the British made was financial, undermining the Continental System that Napoleon constructed to exclude Britain from trade, smuggling goods and weapons to where they needed to be, and essentially turning their entire nation into a giant bank with the Royal Navy to back it up and keep the French at port.

# ? Dec 28, 2022 08:28

Danann: Aug 4, 2013

Военный Осведомитель posted:

_{(Click thumbnail to open video)}
One of the funny non-obvious problems of the Western equipment transferred to the AFU was the huge size of some vehicles, which simply do not fit into most typical Ukrainian barns.

In this case, the American MRAP International MaxxPro cannot be driven into the hangar - the machine gunner's birdhouse is in the way.

@milinfolive

_{(from t.me/milinfolive/94859, via tgsa)}

maybe making big chungus vehicles are a mistake?

# ? Dec 28, 2022 08:35

Slim Jim Pickens: Jan 16, 2012

Ardennes posted:

Admittedly if you give Napoleon an opening he would take it, and if he had won at Waterloo (defeat the British then wheel to face the Prussians), it may have actually given him more breathing room to stablize the situation in France. That said, France at that point had been exhausted by years of warfare and it was unlikely Napoleon could have returned the status quo. The British are patting them their selves on the back for "ending that detestable Corsican."

This poo poo is exactly what I mean. It's not enough to say that Anglos saved the day at Waterloo, they somehow get to be the only ones fighting Napoleon.

Notice how there are 500,000 Germans and Austrians hanging around, and 160,000 Russians marching along? This isn't counting a bunch of reserve armies either. It is completely absurd to imagine that Waterloo made the difference here. Everybody in Wellington's army could have shot themselves and Napoleon would still have had a war to lose.

Leipzig and the campaign of 1813-1814 exists completely outside of the Anglo's mind, despite it being monumentally larger and more decisive. If you follow through on the hypothetical where the Brits just disappeared at Waterloo, the follow-through would look a lot like the 1814 invasion of France.

# ? Dec 28, 2022 08:49

lobotomy molo: May 7, 2007; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Freezer posted:

This year has been awful. But worry not, as next one will be way worse.

# ? Dec 28, 2022 08:50

Slim Jim Pickens: Jan 16, 2012

Danann posted:

_{(from t.me/milinfolive/94859, via tgsa)}

maybe making big chungus vehicles are a mistake?

They send them because they don't need them. These are almost useless outside of their designed role, which was reducing IED casualties. An extremely heavy and tall wheeled vehicle has no utility in a conventional and muddy war. The Ukrainians are better off in those civilian trucks

# ? Dec 28, 2022 08:55

BrotherJayne: Nov 28, 2019

spacetoaster posted:

Nobody remembers you at all.

Beautiful

# ? Dec 28, 2022 08:57

Ytlaya: Nov 13, 2005

CODChimera posted:

if ur not in a tank and not in an aircraft then where the gently caress are you? in a trench getting blown up by artillery? that doesn't sound better at all

Flying in the sky by my own power, raining energy blasts down upon The Enemy

# ? Dec 28, 2022 09:23

Orange Devil: Oct 1, 2010; Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

Doktor Avalanche posted:

i can dig most of that, but it's understandably less than palatable (at least to those not terminally cspam-brained) to see your nation referred to as some kind of dr moreau experiment lmao

Facts don't care about your feelings of nationhood.

# ? Dec 28, 2022 10:01

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

OctaMurk posted:

i dunno the answers to all that tbh. Im just stating my lived experience of working in factories that made all those things, or working with people who did make those things. To me its just mind boggling when people say to me, america doesnt make anything (or only makes "niche" goods). when ive literally worked in factories for things ranging from bottle caps to washing machines, and went to school with people making eye contacts or headlight assemblies for your car

Some stuff just isn't worth offshoring or importing. Like toilet paper. Too cheap / bulky to make it worthwhile to manufacture overseas, mostly.

Anything complex like say, LCD TVs, computers, iThings or a giant assault hovercraft that would fit in Metal Gear, absolutely worth offshoring.

# ? Dec 28, 2022 11:39

Ardennes: May 12, 2002

The US does a lot pharmaceutical manufacturing along with aerospace, motor vehicles, some semiconductors along with food and beverages. The PRC controls nearly a third of the world�s manufacturing.

Ardennes has issued a correction as of 11:49 on Dec 28, 2022

# ? Dec 28, 2022 11:43

Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

Atrocious Joe posted:

https://twitter.com/MazMHussain/status/1598558834263572480?s=20&t=8Opu4KU8lSKGqNYR8pAGiA

Ahhhahahahhah

# ? Dec 28, 2022 11:44

Rutibex: Sep 9, 2001; by Fluffdaddy

Grognan posted:

lol we explicitly trained not to do that because if somebody hucked a grenade/mortar/anything at you it would hit a lot more people in your formation rather than staying 3m apart, staggered on each side of the road

you need a tight formation to protect the wizard though

# ? Dec 28, 2022 11:46

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

CODChimera posted:

if ur not in a tank and not in an aircraft then where the gently caress are you? in a trench getting blown up by artillery? that doesn't sound better at all

In my orbiting spaceship with magical magnetic shields that automatically return to sender any incoming ordinance.

Playing MS-DOS Doom 2 on my bridge station, which looks and works exactly like a 80486.

# ? Dec 28, 2022 12:05

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Danann posted:

https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1605298736972038144

ukraine's erecting fences around artillery guns to try to keep the lancets away

Somewhere is a junior enlisted "I just cleaned that!".

I didn't fullscreen the video but looked like it was (previously) in decent material state prior to that little accident. Should have had some riflemen pickets looking up.

# ? Dec 28, 2022 12:08