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Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Avasculous posted:

I am looking for a recommendation for a coop game for 4 players.

We have previously played:
DOS2 (loved this)

My suggestion is to get Baldur's Gate 3 when it comes out (it's currently still in Early Access). It's being made by the same developer as Divinity: Original Sin 2, which it shares many similarities with. Bonus points if you have any interest whatsoever in Forgotten Realms as a setting.

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Pasha
Nov 9, 2017

Avasculous posted:

I am looking for a recommendation for a coop game for 4 players.

Our group was playing Northgard for a while and it was pretty perfect for us. I have been looking at other RTS games, but the few with coop seem capped at 2.

We have previously played:
DOS2 (loved this)
Diablo III (meh)
Deep Rock Galactic (meh)
Overcooked 2 (hated this)

Possibilities:
Darktide: system requirements might be too high, seems pretty buggy, and limited content.

Dominions 5 / Gladius / Endless games : not very interactive, probably a slog with 4.

Elden Ring : not sure how continuous the coop is. It sounds like players jump in and out.

Any ideas?

Have you looked into PULSAR: Lost Colony?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/252870/PULSAR_Lost_Colony/

It is a Star Trek -esque game and includes space and ground combat, puzzles, and quests.

Serephina
Nov 8, 2005

恐竜戦隊
ジュウレンジャー

Avasculous posted:

I am looking for a recommendation for a coop game for 4 players.

Our group was playing Northgard for a while and it was pretty perfect for us. I have been looking at other RTS games, but the few with coop seem capped at 2.

Any ideas?

It might be expensive, but I'll throw out Carrier Command 2. I've only played the demo but it's apparently very well received by people with IRL friends: first person RTS co-op (or vs teams) where you're all on a carrier deck controlling the ship and launched drones to take over island objectives. VR friendly, very simulation-ist approach to things.

Avasculous
Aug 30, 2008

Char posted:

Sooo I gave in to the Death Stranding Christmas.
Jesus this game is awesome, I should've gotten it way earlier.
Thanks Tim?

Ok, just asking, why did you rate DRG as "meh"? I'm asking because, according to consensus, this is one of the best 4players coop games - therefore your taste might be slightly orthogonal to what's usual.

I'd add Monster Hunter to the list as well, anyway.

Actually, personally I really liked DRG. Two of the others had a hard time getting into it. I think one of them found the 'verticality' of the levels confusing, and the other found the characters annoying.

I will check out Monster Hunter. I think I heard that the PC port was a disaster, but the Steam reviews are high now- not sure if that was just at launch or an earlier version.

Pasha posted:

Have you looked into PULSAR: Lost Colony?

https://store.steampowered.com/app/252870/PULSAR_Lost_Colony/

It is a Star Trek -esque game and includes space and ground combat, puzzles, and quests.

This looks really cool, I will suggest it. Thanks!

Phlegmish posted:

My suggestion is to get Baldur's Gate 3 when it comes out (it's currently still in Early Access).

I am excited for BG3, but was waiting for the full release. I'll check out where they are- last I looked, I think only the first act was in the EA version.

Avasculous fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Dec 29, 2022

sebmojo
Oct 23, 2010


Legit Cyberpunk









Elden ring with the seamless coop mod apparently works p well

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

sebmojo posted:

Elden ring with the seamless coop mod apparently works p well

drat, this rules

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

Avasculous posted:

Actually, personally I really liked DRG. Two of the others had a hard time getting into it. I think one of them found the 'verticality' of the levels confusing, and the other found the characters annoying.

I will check out Monster Hunter. I think I heard that the PC port was a disaster, but the Steam reviews are high now- not sure if that was just at launch or an earlier version.

This looks really cool, I will suggest it. Thanks!

I am excited for BG3, but was waiting for the full release. I'll check out where they are- last I looked, I think only the first act was in the EA version.

They announced the full release for August.

Rusty
Sep 28, 2001
Dinosaur Gum

Strong Sauce posted:

not sure if i saw this game in this thread or not but anyone have opinions on zero sievert? a procedural generated rogue looter sounds fun but i'm worried that its some insane difficulty that will ruin the fun.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1782120/ZERO_Sievert/
It's an amazing game in my opinion and you should buy it if it looks at all interesting to you. I have about 25 hours in and I am not really close to the end of the content yet. It's nice that you can do runs that lat like 5 minutes, or 20 minutes. The tension is a lot higher when you first start and are getting the hang of it, but you can still die easily late game.

Kibayasu
Mar 28, 2010

Avasculous posted:

One of the others vetoed Vermintide 2, but I am not sure why. I will make these points. Thanks!

They may like rats.

Vasler
Feb 17, 2004
Greetings Earthling! Do you have any Zoom Boots?
I think it was somewhere in this thread that someone had recommended a chill city building game. I forgot to bookmark the game and now I can't find the recommendation again. Anyone remember/have any idea what it could be?

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Vasler posted:

I think it was somewhere in this thread that someone had recommended a chill city building game. I forgot to bookmark the game and now I can't find the recommendation again. Anyone remember/have any idea what it could be?

How chill are you talking? On the extreme end of chill, there's Townscaper where you literally just resize boxes and it creates a little sea side town based on the shapes of boxes you've created. It's also on PC gamepass.

Triarii
Jun 14, 2003

I tried a couple hours of Cruelty Squad and I'm pretty sure this is a bad game that people "recommend" as a joke. This is videogame Malort.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Triarii posted:

I tried a couple hours of Cruelty Squad and I'm pretty sure this is a bad game that people "recommend" as a joke. This is videogame Malort.

As a successful member of society with a stable unflinching psyche and limitless drive, natural affinity for finance and domination, you have been selected, no, you have been effortlessly guided by divine (biological) trauma towards this moment. The gates of destiny fling open, and once again you're left standing on pulsating nothingness. A strobing headache of the soul.

ChrisBTY
Mar 29, 2012

this glorious monument

SKULL.GIF posted:

I'm really itching for a nice "classical" PC RPG in the vein of Might & Magic VI-VIII.

Witcher/Skyrim/Dragon Age isn't really scratching that itch the right way. Any recommendations for games I may have overlooked?

There's a game out there that is approaching full release that seeks to be a spiritual successor to those games. Which is something nobody else has attempted before to my knowledge.
However it's one person design team (I think) and when I played it back in February it didn't seem like it should be leaving EA anytime soon.
It's on sale for 6$ anyway and I can guarantee it's definitely worth that much.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1400260/Legendary_Journeys/

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

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Triarii posted:

I tried a couple hours of Cruelty Squad and I'm pretty sure this is a bad game that people "recommend" as a joke. This is videogame Malort.

but u dont understand
looking like dogshit and instantly giving everyone who plays a headache is an intentional design choice
which means it is actually very good instead of bad

explosivo
May 23, 2004

Fueled by Satan

Triarii posted:

I tried a couple hours of Cruelty Squad and I'm pretty sure this is a bad game that people "recommend" as a joke. This is videogame Malort.

It's impressive that they set out to intentionally make a game as off-putting as Cruelty Squad and hit their target and you have to commend them for that but no I wouldn't recommend buying or playing it unless you like saying "You just don't get it" smugly to strangers about bad games

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Making bad games is praxis.

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
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explosivo posted:

It's impressive that they set out to intentionally make a game as off-putting as Cruelty Squad and hit their target and you have to commend them for that but no I wouldn't recommend buying or playing it unless you like saying "You just don't get it" smugly to strangers about bad games

You're describing half the posters in Games

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Cool Kids Club Soda posted:

You're describing half the posters in Games

I think the more typical Games experience is someone telling you you're wrong if you like a game, not if you dislike it.

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
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Dr Kool-AIDS posted:

I think the more typical Games experience is someone telling you you're wrong if you like a game, not if you dislike it.

You're probably just playing it wrong

RandomBlue
Dec 30, 2012

hay guys!


Biscuit Hider
you can keep your artsy fartsy ugly rear end games

Commander Keene
Dec 21, 2016

Faster than the others



Dr Kool-AIDS posted:

I think the more typical Games experience is someone telling you you're wrong if you like a game, not if you dislike it.
There's definitely some people who live in some Bizarro world where good games are bad and bad games are good.

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
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Commander Keene posted:

There's definitely some people who live in some Bizarro world where good games are bad and bad games are good.

Like Spec Ops : The Line

Cool Kids Club Soda
Aug 20, 2010
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Or Dark Souls 2

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

there's nothing Super about these Mario Bros

RPATDO_LAMD
Mar 22, 2013

🐘🪠🍆

Cool Kids Club Soda posted:

Like Spec Ops : The Line

it's a good game but a bad Spec Ops game

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...
Is Red Dead Redemption 2 worth picking up? I played RDR1 several years ago, and I didn't hate it, but I didn't care for it as much as I did the GTA games. I don't recall a lot of particulars from it, but it seemed like the game was really padded, with a lot of time spent traveling between locations for missions, with not a whole lot to do between missions.

The reviews for it are all pretty positive, but a look at the Discussion forums show a lot of recent topics with people having issues launching the game. I've also heard the Online for it is pretty rough, with Rockstar not providing a lot of support (hackers, far fewer expansions than GTA5, and some sort of security issue, from what I recall hearing).

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?

Vasler posted:

I think it was somewhere in this thread that someone had recommended a chill city building game. I forgot to bookmark the game and now I can't find the recommendation again. Anyone remember/have any idea what it could be?

Urbek? Dorfromantik?

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007

Max Wilco posted:

Is Red Dead Redemption 2 worth picking up? I played RDR1 several years ago, and I didn't hate it, but I didn't care for it as much as I did the GTA games. I don't recall a lot of particulars from it, but it seemed like the game was really padded, with a lot of time spent traveling between locations for missions, with not a whole lot to do between missions.

you will not care for RDR2

NoEyedSquareGuy
Mar 16, 2009

Just because Liquor's dead, doesn't mean you can just roll this bitch all over town with "The Freedoms."

Max Wilco posted:

The reviews for it are all pretty positive, but a look at the Discussion forums show a lot of recent topics with people having issues launching the game.

Reinstalled it recently for the sake of benchmarking a new graphics card, it was running without issue for me at least. Wasn't a big fan of the game itself when I played it but I think I'm in the minority on that one.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


FutureCop posted:

Maybe Wizardry 8? I'd say that's very close to replicating most of the features in that game, and I found it pretty fun. Some other games of interest that have some of the factors that might be good are perhaps Grimrock, Tyranny, Queen's Wish, Undernauts? Depends on what is the critical element from Might & Magic you're looking for and what isn't so critical (custom party based, first person perspective, turn-based combat, etc)

It's this kind of proprietary combination of exploring the overworld and the various dungeons throughout, along with having a party that I choose right from the outset and develop throughout the game as I advance forward. I don't know. It's hard to put my finger on it.

ChrisBTY posted:

There's a game out there that is approaching full release that seeks to be a spiritual successor to those games. Which is something nobody else has attempted before to my knowledge.
However it's one person design team (I think) and when I played it back in February it didn't seem like it should be leaving EA anytime soon.
It's on sale for 6$ anyway and I can guarantee it's definitely worth that much.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1400260/Legendary_Journeys/

Oh, this definitely has M&M vibes. Further, I learned a new term - "blobber" - first-person party-blob RPGs. Seems like these really are a dying breed of games, huh?

Vasler
Feb 17, 2004
Greetings Earthling! Do you have any Zoom Boots?

HopperUK posted:

Urbek? Dorfromantik?

Thanks! I'm not sure either of these were the games. They do look interesting and are on sale. Have you played either of them? If so, how are they?

Thanks for the heads up about townscaper, Cojawfee, I'll check it out on gamepass!

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


SKULL.GIF posted:

Further, I learned a new term - "blobber" - first-person party-blob RPGs. Seems like these really are a dying breed of games, huh?

they were never anywhere near as popular in the west as they were in japan, the entire JRPG genre sprung from the insane popularity of wizardry over there. there's still new japanese blobbers coming out every once in a while, with the 3DS and PS Vita era probably being the peak of new releases

Blurb3947
Sep 30, 2022

Max Wilco posted:

Is Red Dead Redemption 2 worth picking up? I played RDR1 several years ago, and I didn't hate it, but I didn't care for it as much as I did the GTA games. I don't recall a lot of particulars from it, but it seemed like the game was really padded, with a lot of time spent traveling between locations for missions, with not a whole lot to do between missions.

The reviews for it are all pretty positive, but a look at the Discussion forums show a lot of recent topics with people having issues launching the game. I've also heard the Online for it is pretty rough, with Rockstar not providing a lot of support (hackers, far fewer expansions than GTA5, and some sort of security issue, from what I recall hearing).

There's a lot of exposition while traveling but I enjoyed aimless traveling much more in RDR2 than any other Rockstar game. It's incredible how detailed the game is. The story and presentation are top notch for games too.

FuzzySlippers
Feb 6, 2009

I'm glad they still make blobbers in Japan but I can't ever get into any of them. It's a shame they so relentlessly clone the oldest Wizardry games without doing any of the interesting things in 7 or 8. I've also never seen a Japanese M&M style where there's no separate combat space much less a real time option.

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

SKULL.GIF posted:

Oh, this definitely has M&M vibes. Further, I learned a new term - "blobber" - first-person party-blob RPGs. Seems like these really are a dying breed of games, huh?

There are actually a ton of these games! The problem is probably 90% of them lean into a lot of weird sex stuff and anime fanservice. And yeah as has been mentioned they are not very popular in the west.

As far as newer ones that aren't some weird fetish porn game and are available on PC:
Elminage Original and Elminage Gothic (on sale for $7 and $2 respectively on steam) are both mechanically great, but their production values are incredibly low.

the New Tokyo Legacy series (Operation Babel and Operation Abyss, on sale for $4 each on steam) are both good games and good introductions to the genre (lots of nice QoL features), but they go extremely far into "anime philosophy weirdness" and you probably need some appreciation of that to enjoy them. I would recommend skipping Operation Abyss and going straight to Operation Babel.

Labyrinth of Refrain: Coven of Dusk (on sale for $15) has a neat setting and is pretty accessible, I'd say it's less "weird anime" than disgaea - fairly subdued overall - but it has some weird moments in the same way other Nippon Ichi games do

Stranger of Sword City is mechanically pretty great, and it has a pretty unique setting (a pseudo-apocalyptic fantasy world that parts of the 'real world' keep getting sucked into), but it gets pretty horny in a few places.

Starcrawlers (not Starcrawlers: Chimera) is a western take and it's pretty good, but it gets repetitive and never has quite the same depth as the others.

Heroes of a Broken Land is incredibly neat conceptually but also a bit hard to get into, it's like a blobber combined with HOM&M - you have a city and multiple parties that you move around the map and they explore dungeons in blobber style. I struggled with it because of low enemy diversity, repetitive dungeons, and things like that. I have not tried the sequel, which is one of those games that unfortunately has only received 19 reviews in 3 years despite still being actively developed by the (solo?) dev.

Mary Skelter: Nightmares has a lot of neat mechanics and seems good but it was too fanservice-anime-ish for me


Also it's very old but one of my favorite OG's (and probably the reason I'm into the genre, because I played a ton of it as a kid), Shining in the Darkness - the blobber prequel to Shining Force for Sega Genesis, is only $0.99 on Steam.

e: At the end of the day however, I do not recommend this genre or these games to anyone unless you know what you're getting into and it sounds fun. They're very grognard-y, often feature lots of bullshit (but avoidable) mechanics like instant, permanent death effects or 'gotchas' that you couldn't have foreseen without reading a guide or experiencing them and restarting, and often lots and lots of grinding, manual mapping, RNG, etc.

deep dish peat moss fucked around with this message at 06:23 on Dec 29, 2022

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
RDR2 is not a game you can just pop into and do stuff, you need to have a few hours free. It will take a few minutes to get where the mission starts from, it will take a few minutes to travel to where the mission happens. When you're doing the mission, there might be a boundary that you can't leave or you automatically fail. It's a very slow paced game, but it rewards you by looking so amazing.

Nancy
Nov 23, 2005



Young Orc

SKULL.GIF posted:

I'm really itching for a nice "classical" PC RPG in the vein of Might & Magic VI-VIII.

Witcher/Skyrim/Dragon Age isn't really scratching that itch the right way. Any recommendations for games I may have overlooked?

This is probably a silly suggestion but since you said M&M VI-VIII, have you tried 3 and 4+5? They're pretty much the same game structure in my opinion, just without a Z axis.

I think Bard's Tale IV is also a decent game and the Bard's Tale Trilogy remaster makes the first 3 a bit more playable.

The Quest is also a surprisingly detailed open world first-person rpg, but it is just a single character.

ShadowMar
Mar 2, 2010

HERE IS A
GRAVEYARD
OF YOU!


there's also Wizardry: The Five Ordeals which is a remake of a 2006 japanese only wizardry game that had five campaigns and a campaign editor.

its still in early access but it's functionally content and feature complete at this point and it got a legible english localization recently. i believe the main thing keeping the game in early access is that the editor to allow people to create their own campaigns and dungeons isn't done yet. this one is insanely hardcore and old school though so be aware.

edit: i haven't played it yet but i've heard good things about Undernauts: Labyrinth of Yomi

ShadowMar fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Dec 29, 2022

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FutureCop
Jun 7, 2011

Have you heard of Fermat's principle?

SKULL.GIF posted:

It's this kind of proprietary combination of exploring the overworld and the various dungeons throughout, along with having a party that I choose right from the outset and develop throughout the game as I advance forward. I don't know. It's hard to put my finger on it.

Oh, this definitely has M&M vibes. Further, I learned a new term - "blobber" - first-person party-blob RPGs. Seems like these really are a dying breed of games, huh?

In that case, yeah, Wizardry 8 is probably what you want to go for. Though if that's too old-school for you, other modern recommendations would be maybe Undernauts, Labyrinth of Refrain, Grimrock and the Etrian Odyssey series (though this is for the DS). If you don't mind a top-down perspective, maybe Spiderweb Software games like Avernum: Escape from the Pit, and perhaps the Wasteland series as well, most likely 2 or 3? A bonus recommendation that might fit: perhaps Fallout Tactics?

FutureCop fucked around with this message at 06:56 on Dec 29, 2022

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