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the recent "remake every good game from your childhood" trend sucks imo. if i wanted to play these old games i would play them. i could understand like hd remasters or ports to modern systems, but remaking everything from scratch is just a waste of effort. most of these beloved classics aren't even that good
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A good chrono trigger remake is an impossible problem to solve, just as a good ff7 remake was an impossible problem to solve. You're going to please almost no one no matter what you do, you'll make a lot of money but you'll burn a lot of customer good will in the process. Even the people who claim they just want updated graphics will ultimately become upset as their rosy childhood memories become tainted by the harsh light of 20 years of experience shining onto a 30 year-old design The fact that it's an impossible problem to solve doesn't change whether or not it gets made obviously, FF7R obviously came out. But it was poo poo and a chrono trigger remake will also be poo poo
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Dec 29, 2022 10:38
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I don't even know why Capcom keeps calling their games Resident Evil, what's the point? The gameplay in the newer games is completely distinct from the older games, there's almost nothing left. No one gives a poo poo about your ongoing story, call it something else you dweebs
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Dec 29, 2022 10:41
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Serephina posted:I mean yea, all people would want from a DX 'remake' would be better gfx on a smoother engine than UT'99, and maybe some tuned cybernetics. The missions, plot, characters, voice acting, and general gameplay vibe are all fine. If you really stretched you could change gunplay somehow, but that's iffy. Deus ex is actually really lovely in almost every way and the fact that it is still a legit great is kind of baffling
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Dec 29, 2022 10:45
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Like I do think it's a great game it's just great in spite of all its elements
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AFancyQuestionMark posted:the recent "remake every good game from your childhood" trend sucks imo. if i wanted to play these old games i would play them. i could understand like hd remasters or ports to modern systems, but remaking everything from scratch is just a waste of effort. I think gaming has evolved so much that there are whole new audiences that just aren't aware of these old genres that have long fallen out of favour. Is it worth playing that Crash Bandicoot remake without the nostalgia? Debatable, but it did lead to Crash 4 which is a great modern take on the formula. While FF7R is entirely just a retread of a quarter century old game told at a glacial pace, I think it really has revitalized JRPGs in a big way. I think by cashing in on that nostalgia they are widening the net on what might be considered "marketable" by publishers. Also, emulation and videogame history is still kind of a niche hobby/interest. I think that introducing new audiences to these old (albeit, often crappy) genres and IPs is valuable in of itself just because I think there is good stuff there that should be seen by more people.
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Dec 29, 2022 10:59
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sebmojo posted:Deus ex is actually really lovely in almost every way and the fact that it is still a legit great is kind of baffling A lot of that is the engine imo, trying to make a stealth game and realistic office settings in modified UE1 resulted in a lot of clop-clop-clop. Like if you 'remade' it nowadays, what actually needs to be thrown out instead of merely being tweaked or prettied up? It's nowhere near dated enough to need a remaster.
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Dec 29, 2022 11:18
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The deus ex shooting is floaty and awful especially if the idea is that you're a cybernetic super-agent but you take 5 seconds to aim a pistol. And then fanboys will go "you're not supposed to be shooting"
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Dec 29, 2022 11:35
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Caesar Saladin posted:Its a great game for 12 year olds, there's no reason to change the gameplay, just give the modern 12 year olds some better graphics instead of expecting them to appreciate the pixels of your youth. I loved it at that age and it doesn't really need to be overcomplicated or made to appeal to grumpy 36 year olds. Chrono Trigger is a good game because it introduced me to a bunch of concepts I had never been exposed to before. Stuff like deep time, theory of Atlantis, and cosmic horror. It was amazing because as a 12 year old child these were new and big concepts. Remaking the game to appeal to 40 year old manchildren isn't going to have the same charm. You can't be introduced to cosmic horror for the first time twice.
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Dec 29, 2022 12:50
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but they can bring back some of the other core chrono trigger concepts that are truly timeless, like the thrill of stealing a sandwich
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Panzeh posted:The deus ex shooting is floaty and awful especially if the idea is that you're a cybernetic super-agent but you take 5 seconds to aim a pistol. Aw yeah arguing about imaginary games with imaginary people. Here I made video for you, in which I add skill points into weapon skills and start blasting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGkWSDTpkk0
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Dec 29, 2022 13:04
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Vic posted:Aw yeah arguing about imaginary games with imaginary people. lmao
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Dec 29, 2022 13:09
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Vic posted:Aw yeah arguing about imaginary games with imaginary people. Yeah the shooting in this still looks like poo poo. Theres a lot of good things about Deus Ex but the action is completely trash, even by the standards of the time.
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Dec 29, 2022 13:45
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I mean it looks like poo poo because the enemies have a single animation and death sound, the rifle has a silencer installed, the view bob is disabled etc. The animation in DX is super basic. If you look at System Shock 2, it's the same thing. But you absolutely can play a robocop with perfect aim, which is the whole point of the RPG mechanic. Nothing floaty about it.
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Dec 29, 2022 14:05
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i refuse to try vampire suvivors because "game that everyone won't shut the gently caress up about" is my least favorite genre
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Dec 29, 2022 16:23
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Vic posted:I mean it looks like poo poo Concur
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Dec 29, 2022 16:29
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Vic posted:Aw yeah arguing about imaginary games with imaginary people. get em!
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Dec 29, 2022 16:33
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precision posted:i refuse to try vampire suvivors because "game that everyone won't shut the gently caress up about" is my least favorite genre Lol, this is exactly how i feel about Rick and Morty. It’s probably pretty good, but I’m petty enough to refuse to try it just to spite all of its fans. E: i have an original retail box of Deus Ex somewhere in my basement. It’s probably in excellent shape. I wonder if I could run it on my Win 10 machine? tango alpha delta fucked around with this message at 16:53 on Dec 29, 2022 |
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i don't realy remember shooting anybody in deus ex i mean like one time there was an Agent Smith i had to get around i think and i shot a rocket launcher at him i think i remember using a sword a bit? or maybe that was in Deus 3X  anyway i only played Deus Ex once literaly like 21 years ago and i still remember it fondly so im gonna go out on a limb and say it might have been a pretty okay video jame
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Dec 29, 2022 16:50
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I genuinely loved Deus Ex: Human Revolution and thought it was a more than worthy follow up
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precision posted:i refuse to try vampire suvivors because "game that everyone won't shut the gently caress up about" is my least favorite genre This is why I will never play a Monster Hunter, a Soulslike or use Twitter.
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Skulker posted:This is why I will never play a Monster Hunter, a Soulslike or use Twitter. Two of these are very wise decisions
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precision posted:i refuse to try Disco Elysium because "game that everyone won't shut the gently caress up about" is my least favorite genre
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I love Deus Ex and its prequals are good games, but I think the franchise can be scrapped. They've already made a sequel that was both bad and wrapped the story up (if the original didn't do that enough), and the prequels are hopelessly lost in some muddled story that nobody played where everyone already knows that the end is the first Deus Ex. Developers should be less beholden to franchises and just create brand new games in the theme of the old games. The 'Souls' games do this to great effect, there are only 3 Dark Souls games but a bunch of other great games that aren't dragged down by having to fit in to a series. IMO the Deus Ex prequels already should have taken the 'in the spirit of' approach since they shared so little stylistically. The story ties were pretty uninteresting and just made it so we already knew how things would end up. Settings go stale and making new ones is okay, I'll buy them.
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precision posted:i don't realy remember shooting anybody in deus ex Yeah same, I barely remember the game but I recall enjoying it. Probably a lot of old games in that category.
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when i played Deus Ex the simulation was so excellent i was able to swim away from liberty island and get a civilian job as a cab driver in future new york. i didnt kill anyone but i did learn some valuable lessons about family. 10/10
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JollyBoyJohn posted:I genuinely loved Deus Ex: Human Revolution and thought it was a more than worthy follow up Not an unpopular opinion.
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The Nintendo Switch is bad
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Did we cover Callisto Protocol yet? I liked it but if it had been any longer that like would have quickly morphed into boredom (looking at you Last of Us 2). It felt like a very pretty and glorified shooter on rails. Thank god they patched in the “skip your death scene” thing. The first time a robot crushed my head it was awesome. The 6th time of having sit through the animation to try again was meh.
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Deus ex came out right before Majestic, I miss the illuminati Renaissance
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Orange Cat posted:Did we cover Callisto Protocol yet? I liked it but if it had been any longer that like would have quickly morphed into boredom (looking at you Last of Us 2). It felt like a very pretty and glorified shooter on rails. Thank god they patched in the “skip your death scene” thing. The first time a robot crushed my head it was awesome. The 6th time of having sit through the animation to try again was meh. From everything I've seen/read about Callisto Protocol, it seems like a serious letdown. I was ready to buy it full price if it were good 
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Peggy Edson posted:The Nintendo Switch isn't bad fixed that for you 
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Rutibex posted:fixed that for you are you under the age of 12
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I finally got a switch in 2022 because I swore to never spend money on one but then I found a dude on marketplace who traded me his switch for a couple snes and ps games. The switch is in fact bad and the only games I got it for were Kirby, odyssey and paper Mario plus the LA remake. Being that I have a wiiu, I've played all the other "must play" switch games on that years ago. It's a loving Nvidia shield from 2012 and they still somehow cost like 250 bucks in 2022. Seriously pisses me off. gently caress you Nintendo. 3ds is a way better portable and literally anything is a way better set top console. Lmao at smtv frame rates, as just one single example.
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wilfredmerriweathr posted:I finally got a switch in 2022 because I swore to never spend money on one but then I found a dude on marketplace who traded me his switch for a couple snes and ps games. basically this ☝️
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Also I finished botw (on the wiiu, only finished it cuz I broke my goddamned foot and can't walk) and I'd like to reaffirm my previously stated belief that it's at best a mediocre game. Really hope they make totk better. Like maybe with some dungeons. Or literally anything to make playing it worthwhile
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BOTW is insanely loving bad. Nintendorks had never experienced an open world game before lol
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The best part of botw is that it reinvigorated my desire to play actual Zelda games so I'm running through all the ones I missed like minish cap and ww. When it came out I hated ww for the sailing and how empty the world was but compared to botw now it doesn't look so bad.
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Vic posted:Aw yeah arguing about imaginary games with imaginary people. gently caress me, I had no idea you can shoot the alarm buttons. 
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