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i am a fan of when a story has a grubby guy or gal who is pigeon king. john wick, neverwhere, on the waterfront, home alone 2. it's always good
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FACT: when you never bathe or wash your clothes, you can summon certain kinds of birds to do your bidding
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josh04 posted:i am a fan of when a story has a grubby guy or gal who is pigeon king. john wick, neverwhere, on the waterfront, home alone 2. it's always good Hey Arnold was the first pigeon king character I saw. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CVucJBrliI
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Mantis42 posted:So on the nose that I didn't get that at all it's most obvious in the third film with the repeated references to the divide between being "at the Table" (the mafia bosses who employ the assassins) and the assassins themselves who are "under the Table". the assassins are disposable contractors paid in company scrip subject to the whims of the High Table. the only ways out for people like Wick are being graciously permitted to retire by the Table (who can then drag you back in whenever they feel like it), embracing the lifestyle ("I will serve, I will be of service") or becoming Wick commits the ultimate sin by killing a member of the Table for personal reasons, reminding the employers of their vulnerability and reliance on the workers. the Table spends the 3rd film systematically punishing anyone who shows him any solidarity like the homeless people and his Belarusian mentor and using the lure of personal wealth to turn his fellow assassins against him. at the end of the 3rd film Wick tries to ally with Ian McShane who fucks him over because his class interests ultimately lie with the Table and not the workers. don't ask me where the hobo king fits into this
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Gato posted:it's most obvious in the third film with the repeated references to the divide between being "at the Table" (the mafia bosses who employ the assassins) and the assassins themselves who are "under the Table". the assassins are disposable contractors paid in company scrip subject to the whims of the High Table. the only ways out for people like Wick are being graciously permitted to retire by the Table (who can then drag you back in whenever they feel like it), embracing the lifestyle ("I will serve, I will be of service") or becoming i've seen all three John Wick movies and couldn't tell you what any of this refers to
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Dec 29, 2022 22:42
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Actually John Wick is a libertarian and the coins represent fiat currency.
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Mantis42 posted:Actually John Wick is a libertarian and the coins represent fiat currency. wrong it represents decentralized deep finance crypto. john is mining for coins
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Dec 29, 2022 22:47
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what is the current version of the 1-800-COLLECT guy
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Gato posted:at the end of the 3rd film Wick tries to ally with Ian McShane who fucks him over because his class interests ultimately lie with the Table and not the workers. but anyways i guess you could say the hobo king is caesar chavez
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John Wick’s name is deeply symbolic because he snuffs people out
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Gato posted:it's most obvious in the third film with the repeated references to the divide between being "at the Table" (the mafia bosses who employ the assassins) and the assassins themselves who are "under the Table". the assassins are disposable contractors paid in company scrip subject to the whims of the High Table. the only ways out for people like Wick are being graciously permitted to retire by the Table (who can then drag you back in whenever they feel like it), embracing the lifestyle ("I will serve, I will be of service") or becoming This was pretty similar to my take on John Wick 3. I personally think the hobo king is going to lead John Wick and the proletariat in a war against the Table and their allies in the next one but I dunno.
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loquacius posted:he also likes dogs yeah, he's cool!
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lol, Maga macho man Andrew Tate picked a fight with Greta Thunberg for some reason, and he got dunked on so hard he had to make a response video from his location in Romania to try and salvage what was left of his ego, only the dumb gently caress doxxed himself. Turns out the romanian authorities were looking for him for human trafficking, and nabbed him https://twitter.com/theserfstv/status/1608542176480481280 https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/1608579412588650496
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Substandard posted:This was pretty similar to my take on John Wick 3. I personally think the hobo king is going to lead John Wick and the proletariat in a war against the Table and their allies in the next one but I dunno. thank God I'm not the only one. this is very much where I'm hoping things go, but it's possible we're overthinking all of this. going back to the more general question of what makes for good fight scenes, for all that the choreography is great the fights don't really develop the plot or tell you anything about the characters except that John Wick is good at killing people. I think the result of that is that people who want to watch the fights tune out for the plot, which is a shame because there are some interesting ideas in there
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The John Wick movies are generally pretty good but there's such thing as too much of a good thing, I hope they can conclude the story properly instead of just upping the stakes every time and spinning their wheels.
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josh04 posted:i am a fan of when a story has a grubby guy or gal who is pigeon king. john wick, neverwhere, on the waterfront, home alone 2. it's always good Batman Returns (penguin is an honorary pigeon king)
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i've seen all the john wick movies but any of the specifics that stick with me are mostly from the first one. the rest is a swirl of fight scenes and maybe someone sitting at a long table in a dimly lit room?
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Oh John, I don't want to help you, but I will. *dies*
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DoubleDonut posted:fury road had lore??? there was some comic book stuff that elaborates on things that only get briefly mentioned in the movie.
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 drat, you'd think WB could at least spring for halfway decent cgi. I can see why the dccu is getting dropped
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anyone ever seen this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capricorn_One https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Z9yNHIolnM it stars, Elliott Gould, James Brolin, Sam Waterston, and O. J. Simpson which made my eye twitch
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Yes it is good
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:drat, you'd think WB could at least spring for halfway decent cgi. I can see why the dccu is getting dropped shoddy hollywood 2020s CGI isn't as funny as the still massive $$$ blown on doing it
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Palladium posted:shoddy hollywood 2020s CGI isn't as funny as the still massive $$$ blown on doing it one of the most shocking things about all the MCU disney slop is just how absolutely dog poo poo a lot of the CGI looks with really bad edits, bugs, and just haphazard sloppiness that looks like internbaby's first job went through and no one looked at it until it was released on screen
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LIVE AMMO COSPLAY posted:It's crazy that cgi was ever allowed to actually look good instead of immediately transitioning to a cost cutting measure it's just kinda funny that the mega billion $$$$$ blockbuster franchises look like poo poo. like for being their big cash cows you'd think they'd put in effort making things good instead of bad. admittingly, most people don't care so, well, no reason to bother Xaris has issued a correction as of 11:10 on Dec 30, 2022 |
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1stGear posted:I actually feel like the big budget CGI stuff has gotten way worse over the past couple of years specifically. Presumably because all the artists have been worked to death and leaving for something less exploitive, like AAA game development. where they are mocapping bad scripts to the finest detail
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1stGear posted:I actually feel like the big budget CGI stuff has gotten way worse over the past couple of years specifically. Presumably because all the artists have been worked to death and leaving for something less exploitive, like AAA game development. yeah that was more my point actually. it looks worse than it did, say, 10 years ago, despite massive improvements in computing power, software, etc granted it was generally used sparingly, like say Batmath Begins or Lord of the Rings or Casino Royale or something so while there were some bad things, it was usually very brief
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ArmZ posted:good fight scenes are like life: nasty, brutish, and short hello, fellow Nicholas Winding Refn fan
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At least 2/3 of all the cgi ever done in all movies put together looked like garbage, if not more
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1stGear posted:I actually feel like the big budget CGI stuff has gotten way worse over the past couple of years specifically. Presumably because all the artists have been worked to death and leaving for something less exploitive, like AAA game development. it was pretty funny that they got Jim Gaffigan to play the part of the general in 2022's Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 the scene where he said "burn them. but not my hot pockets" was stellar
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