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| 🦋 |
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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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12 | 2.97% |
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67 | 16.58% |
| dragonfly |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
| 🐝 |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Just once I want to see a bunch of new posts ITT and it be due to a big offensive or a massacre or a bridge blowing up but no, people just keep touching the poo
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Dec 30, 2022 02:50
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mlmp08 posted:Oil that Iraq primarily sells to China. In what currency does China presently buy OPEC oil
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Dec 30, 2022 02:54
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AnimeIsTrash posted:was Iraq selling this oil to China under occupation? Do you mean the "occupation" in the sense of a bunch of combat troops in Iraq (not like the ~2,500 or whatever in country now) or do you mean occupation like the 14 months of the CPA? If the former, the war put a lot of investment on hold and exports obviously dropped very, very low on account of the war. It also pushed China to diversify. But by 2006, China was back in the game in a very serious way and steadily and rapidly increased exports every year for years until Iraq was in their top 5 or 6 oil trade partners. If the latter, oil production and export was generally a shitshow and decidedly a small quantity during that time period compared to pre-war and even a couple years post-invasion. In spite of all that, I would characterize the coalition (US, UK, Australia, Poland) invasion of Iraq in 2003 as an imperialist action engineered principally by the US.
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Dec 30, 2022 03:06
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Slavvy posted:Just once I want to see a bunch of new posts ITT and it be due to a big offensive or a massacre or a bridge blowing up but no, people just keep touching the poo Not my fault, but look at the bright side it keeps the thread at the top of cspam Ardennes has issued a correction as of 03:17 on Dec 30, 2022 |
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Dec 30, 2022 03:10
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mlmp08 posted:But going by Best Friends' definition of resource extraction to the core, in contrast with Russia annexing resource-rich regions? The US didn't annex anything and barely rates as a trade partner with Iraq. Love to engage in Iraq War apologia
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Dec 30, 2022 03:28
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gradenko_2000 posted:Love to engage in Iraq War apologia yeah that's 100% what I was doing. jfc, are you stuck in either or mode? I am not saying US good Russia bad. I'm saying that both the US and Russia do lovely, very bad things. Those include exploiting others, regime changes, invading other countries, etc.
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Dec 30, 2022 03:33
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gradenko_2000 posted:Love to engage in Iraq War apologia There are still libs out there that like to pretend that the only type of imperialism out there is changing borders on a map. Looting a puppet state can't be doing imperialism because huh...
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Dec 30, 2022 03:34
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Ardennes posted:There are still libs out there that like to pretend that the only type of imperialism out there is changing borders on a map. I wonder why... Those guys sound dumb, if they think that the only way to be imperialistic is to annex territory.
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Dec 30, 2022 03:35
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mlmp08 posted:yeah that's 100% what I was doing https://youtube.com/watch?v=d24ZpzoZkQE&feature=shares
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Dec 30, 2022 03:41
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Oh well. Another day another post. I still agree with the OP, personally.
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Dec 30, 2022 03:42
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Ardennes posted:Not my fault, but look at the bright side it keeps the thread at the top of cspam You've been good and I respect your restraint, other people clearly have less willpower
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Dec 30, 2022 03:42
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I think war is bad personally, but it does lead to cool flight sim games
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Dec 30, 2022 03:47
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my little pony man is a state funded actor and thats why hes so funny, hadndsome and good at posting.
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Dec 30, 2022 03:50
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mlmp08 posted:yeah that's 100% what I was doing. jfc, are you stuck in either or mode? I am not saying US good Russia bad. I'm saying that both the US and Russia do lovely, very bad things. Those include exploiting others, regime changes, invading other countries, etc. distinguishing the US's actions from Russia's on the basis that the US did not annex anything and didn't make Iraq into a trade partner is not, in my opinion, "saying that the US [does] lovely, very bad things"
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Dec 30, 2022 03:52
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gradenko_2000 posted:distinguishing the US's actions from Russia's on the basis that the US did not annex anything and didn't make Iraq into a trade partner is not, in my opinion, "saying that the US [does] lovely, very bad things" I’m not sure you could have taken the whole conversation with Best Friends more out of context if you tried.
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Dec 30, 2022 03:55
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Ardennes posted:There are still libs out there that like to pretend that the only type of imperialism out there is changing borders on a map. Looting a puppet state can't be doing imperialism because huh... because setting up economic relationships that say, impoverish and kill billions of people in India to pump all that wealth back to britain is a good, free fair market. same with the US and south korea or japan or setting up the shah- those are all doubleplus good freedom things.
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Dec 30, 2022 03:55
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iCe-CuBe. posted:my little pony man is a state funded actor and thats why hes so funny, hadndsome and good at posting.
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Dec 30, 2022 03:56
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gradenko_2000 posted:distinguishing the US's actions from Russia's on the basis that the US did not annex anything and didn't make Iraq into a trade partner is not, in my opinion, "saying that the US [does] lovely, very bad things" the US empire is one of coups, killing anyone who tries to protect their nations’ wealth, and maximizing return in investment. it’s a little more subtle than setting up a Raj in India, provides plausible deniability for western imperialism even though it butchers millions to keep “free trade” going.
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Dec 30, 2022 03:57
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Ardennes posted:Yeah, I don’t know how it is going to fare in an something that isn’t a police action, where the enemy has the ability to sustainably fight back. As apart of a conventional conflict, it is going to face a lot of threats design to easily aimed at taking it out. you could say the same of the bmp2 or the vast majority of other ifvs in the world. ifvs in general face a lot of threats designed to easily take them out.
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Dec 30, 2022 04:00
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Endman posted:I think war is bad personally, but it does lead to cool flight sim games Eh. I enjoy watching people playing DCS but it doesn't make me want to learn what "Jamming the WEZ" means, y'know?
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Dec 30, 2022 04:07
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AnimeIsTrash posted:what makes it imperialist it depends on one's theory of imperialism, but this war fits fairly neatly into the theory of national conflict sketched out by fin-de-siecle communist thinkers, but they didn't really subscribe to a theory of imperialism by which this war is obviously imperialist. this is much closer to something like the franco-prussian war imo. if one thinks that all wars motivated by great power interests are imperialist in nature, it makes sense to call this an imperialist invasion - something close to this line was adopted by maoist and eurocommunist critics of the soviet union, leading to the development of the doctrine of social imperialism. one obvious criticism of this use of the term is that it removes an awful lot of explanatory power in favour of a moralised reading of history, but it's coherent and a fair amount of people use it in this way. V. Illych L. has issued a correction as of 04:10 on Dec 30, 2022 |
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Dec 30, 2022 04:08
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Listen here bud, ever since WW2 there is a singular empire, the consortium of western europe captained by the US of which NATO is the umbrella organization, it exists to uphold white supremacy and do the work of colonial european empires of old, just dumping the wealth of the world into the unified western financial system instead of competing decrepit european monarchies. Ukraine has been positioning itself as the easternmost land bulwark of the empire since the fascist putsch of 2014 (euromaidan), persecuting their eastern minorities in an ethnic cleansing project to fit into western nazifascist barbarism, hence Russia invading and denazifying Ukraine is anti-imperialist.
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Dec 30, 2022 04:08
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bagual posted:hence Russia invading and denazifying Ukraine is anti-imperialist. Hmmm, I disagree. I think the invasion is imperialist, instead. There can be more than one imperial power on Earth.
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Dec 30, 2022 04:09
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i'm generally uncomfortable with the idea that something is objectively progressive if it is done contrary to the hegemonic capitalist-imperialist tendency. a system can have many critiques; not all will be fruitful. faced with collapse, capitalism can become something better - or it can decide that it suits brown better and start exterminating Enemies
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Dec 30, 2022 04:12
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"anti", opposed to, against That the power perpetrating the act may or may not be an imperial power itself has no bearing on acting against an imperial power in turn Ergo, anti-imperialist
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Dec 30, 2022 04:14
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mlmp08 posted:Hmmm, I disagree. I think the invasion is imperialist, instead. There can be more than one imperial power on Earth. No, you're wrong, the collective west holds an economic iron boot to the throat of the world in the form of the petrodollar and kills anyone who goes against it with extreme prejudice. The west is racist, fascist, and their policies kill by hunger and need manyfold any number of victims of armed conflict.
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Dec 30, 2022 04:14
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critical support to comrade Trajan in his anti-imperialist war against the Parthian Empire
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Dec 30, 2022 04:15
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Some people think there’s only one imperial power. I think there are more than one. That’s okay, being in favor of Russian imperialist actions is unpopular, but allowed.
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Dec 30, 2022 04:16
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for instance, ww2 japan was not progressive despite being firmly against the dominant imperialist powers of the day. a lot of japanese war museums attempt to pretend that they were, but this is imo wrong.
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Dec 30, 2022 04:18
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mlmp08 posted:Some people think there’s only one imperial power. I think there are more than one. Some people are wrong, like you, and some people are right, like me. You got nothing to say except equating statements as equivalent opinions because you're a decorum brained pudgy gringo, and i see right through you.
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Dec 30, 2022 04:19
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bagual posted:Some people are wrong, like you, and some people are right, like me. I believe more than one power can have imperialist ambitions and tactics. If your feeling is that invading Ukraine is a justified anti-imperialism act, go for it.
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Dec 30, 2022 04:22
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using the outcomes of the iraq war as an argument here is bad, wars dont become less imperialist just because you lost
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Dec 30, 2022 04:24
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V. Illych L. posted:for instance, ww2 japan was not progressive despite being firmly against the dominant imperialist powers of the day. a lot of japanese war museums attempt to pretend that they were, but this is imo wrong. Critical support to the Anti-Imperial Japanese Navy
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Dec 30, 2022 04:25
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Megamissen posted:using the outcomes of the iraq war as an argument here is bad, wars dont become less imperialist just because you lost As I’ve said repeatedly, I think the invasion of Iraq was decidedly imperialist.
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Dec 30, 2022 04:26
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Subhas Chandra Bose 🫡
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Dec 30, 2022 04:27
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mlmp08 posted:I believe more than one power can have imperialist ambitions and tactics. If your feeling is that invading Ukraine is a justified anti-imperialism act, go for it. You're just throwing words around because you're intellectually delinquent, it's not my feeling, it's a statement of fact based on study and political militancy, we're not the same.
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Dec 30, 2022 04:31
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“breaking up a smaller poorer single-nation ‘empire’ to momentarily slake the thirst of a much larger, more powerful and more bloodthirsty empire is praxis, folx”
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Dec 30, 2022 04:31
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paul_soccer12 posted:Critical support to the Anti-Imperial Japanese Navy ”the greater East Asia co prosperity sphere is real” I assure myself as I close my eyes and ram the flat top with my lovely air plane
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Dec 30, 2022 04:32
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V. Illych L. posted:for instance, ww2 japan was not progressive despite being firmly against the dominant imperialist powers of the day. a lot of japanese war museums attempt to pretend that they were, but this is imo wrong. I don't think Russia is maintaining a racialized colonial empire on the scale of early 20th century Japan
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Dec 30, 2022 04:34
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anyways this is getting boring, we can’t do it anymore but if you want to laugh check out EasilyConfuseds probe in the lc
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