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Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


If you think that she’ll want a pencil someday, just go right for the Air4 or another Pencil2 capable one, imo. The pencil2 is such a huge quality of life upgrade over the pencil1 that it’s ridiculous.

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Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Khizan posted:

If you think that she’ll want a pencil someday, just go right for the Air4 or another Pencil2 capable one, imo. The pencil2 is such a huge quality of life upgrade over the pencil1 that it’s ridiculous.

Lmao pencil 1 recharging

Well Played Mauer
Jun 1, 2003

We'll always have Cabo
Yeah, I have an 11-inch 3rd generation Pro and love the pencil. I think I'm gonna grab her an Air 4 since it's compatible with the Magic Keyboard, which I never got around to selling after switching to the Logitech Combo Touch. So she could go laptop mode if she so desired.

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:
Nevermind

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

I’ve been using dodo cases for my ipads for a long time, but I was disappointed that my current one started falling apart before my ipad did. Is there a good case with a similar aesthetic that isn’t hugely bulky and otterbox-looking? I like the look of a hardback book that can prop it up as a stand. No keyboard folio needed.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM
iPad Pro refuses to install 15.7.2

- Downloaded, click install, during verify it fails saying I am no longer connected to the internet. I am.
- Deleted and redownloaded update. Same result.
- Restarted iPad. Same result.
- Connected iPad to Mac. It sees 15.7.1 and says that's current.

What do I do here?

SlowBloke
Aug 14, 2017

AlternateAccount posted:

iPad Pro refuses to install 15.7.2

- Downloaded, click install, during verify it fails saying I am no longer connected to the internet. I am.
- Deleted and redownloaded update. Same result.
- Restarted iPad. Same result.
- Connected iPad to Mac. It sees 15.7.1 and says that's current.

What do I do here?

Use apple configurator to force the upgrade?

Cold Milk Bottle
Nov 19, 2012
Got a new (base) iPad, enjoying it a lot but when I watch a YouTube video through safari it automatically plays at 2x speed and I have to set the playback speed back to default every time. Anybody know if there’s some weird setting I might have enabled or if using the Vinegar extension might be to blame?

edit: it fixed itself for now :shrug:

Cold Milk Bottle fucked around with this message at 22:04 on Jan 1, 2023

Jose Oquendo
Jun 20, 2004

Star Trek: The Motion Picture is a boring movie

AlternateAccount posted:

iPad Pro refuses to install 15.7.2

- Downloaded, click install, during verify it fails saying I am no longer connected to the internet. I am.
- Deleted and redownloaded update. Same result.
- Restarted iPad. Same result.
- Connected iPad to Mac. It sees 15.7.1 and says that's current.

What do I do here?

You shouldn’t even bother trying to install that. Does your iPad show an option to install iPadOS 16? If not, download the IPSW and install it through a computer.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Yeah, downloading the 15.7.2 IPSW for your model and alt clicking Update in Finder in the iPad’s settings lets you choose a downloaded ipsw.

Used to do this a lot when iOS beta versions weren’t open to the public and clean installs wouldn’t activate without a dev account, but updating this way was a workaround.

AlternateAccount
Apr 25, 2005
FYGM

Jose Oquendo posted:

You shouldn’t even bother trying to install that. Does your iPad show an option to install iPadOS 16? If not, download the IPSW and install it through a computer.

Ah, I assumed there was some kind of prereq in the point update. Derp, this worked. Thank you.

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002


What is the best format to import into apple's native Books app (formerly iBooks)? I found a few titles on the Internet Archive I'd like to put on my ipad but I'm not sure which one to grab that would be read easily and be formated correctly.

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Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

GATOS Y VATOS posted:

What is the best format to import into apple's native Books app (formerly iBooks)? I found a few titles on the Internet Archive I'd like to put on my ipad but I'm not sure which one to grab that would be read easily and be formated correctly.



You want EPUB. PDF will also work fine, but it won't reflow to fit your screen size if you have a smaller ipad.

Glimpse
Jun 5, 2011


EPUB is the format Books uses, that’s the one you want.

dc3k
Feb 18, 2003

what.

Mister Facetious posted:

Lmao pencil 1 recharging

also connecting. i wanted to try out my gf's v1 pencil on my ipad to see how i'd like it in some cad software. can't even connect the stupid thing because unlike every other bluetooth device on earth you have to physically connect it to pair it and i dont have the lightning to usb-c adapter required

GATOS Y VATOS
Aug 22, 2002


Arivia posted:

You want EPUB. PDF will also work fine, but it won't reflow to fit your screen size if you have a smaller ipad.


Glimpse posted:

EPUB is the format Books uses, that’s the one you want.

Great, thank you both!

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Mister Facetious posted:

Lmao pencil 1 recharging

That’s such a bad design it’s hard to believe it came from apple

“Should we include a small charging cable for the pencil?”

“NO! make the pencil rigidly plug into the iPad, making a two and a half foot long device that’s begging to snap in half!!!”

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Arivia posted:

You want EPUB. PDF will also work fine, but it won't reflow to fit your screen size if you have a smaller ipad.

Completely aside/derail, but this is kind of a pet peeve of mine. I can't get past the "janky HTML 1.0" look of a lot of EPUB/reader-native formats vs a nicely typeset/formatted PDF, and it's really killing me. I hate being the guy squinting at a PDF on a low-res Kindle screen, but so many epub docs just evoke the sense of reading text-only websites in Mosaic back in 1994 :(

PDF sizing less of an issue on an iPad but still not optimal if I'm squinting or pinch-zooming more than I should, so I totally need to make this switch and just learn to deal with lack of professional typesetting which can't exist by nature of the cross-device medium.

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

I don’t really get that complaint.. with an epub you can just change your reader app’s typeface settings, line height, etc to whatever you want

Does it lack some advanced formatting stuff that PDFs do better at?

Endless Mike
Aug 13, 2003



Jim Silly-Balls posted:

That’s such a bad design it’s hard to believe it came from apple

“Should we include a small charging cable for the pencil?”

“NO! make the pencil rigidly plug into the iPad, making a two and a half foot long device that’s begging to snap in half!!!”

TBF they did include an adapter so you can plug it into a charging cable. Still v bad tho

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Endless Mike posted:

TBF they did include an adapter so you can plug it into a charging cable. Still v bad tho

Yes, a microscopic adapter where one end doesnt "snap" onto the cable (or the pencil, I dont remember), making it super easy to lose

And you could lose the cap that goes on the pen too.

Beve Stuscemi fucked around with this message at 15:41 on Jan 3, 2023

Kirios
Jan 26, 2010




Out of curiosity if you aren't an artist nor a student what do you really use the Pencil for?

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Taking notes in a meeting when using a laptop seems rude, like a job interview for example.

xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

The pencil is great for adjusting settings on complex apps, such as lightroom or audio synths. They have a lot of small controls and it feels more precise to use a pencil rather than my fat goon finger.

The Grumbles
Jun 5, 2006

Kirios posted:

Out of curiosity if you aren't an artist nor a student what do you really use the Pencil for?

It's really nice and comfortable to just use as a mouse/keyboard replacement. Handwriting recognition works really well, for longer-form writing as well as filling out forms on websites and the like. But I don't think the price is justified if you're not also using it for drawing, as there are much cheaper styluses like the logitech one out there you can still use for general navigation/typing.

The Dave posted:

Taking notes in a meeting when using a laptop seems rude, like a job interview for example.

This is insane to me, do you work as an assistant to an ageing aristocrat?

sourdough
Apr 30, 2012

Kirios posted:

Out of curiosity if you aren't an artist nor a student what do you really use the Pencil for?

Nothing, it just sits on my iPad and laughs at me for buying it

Flyndre
Sep 6, 2009

Kirios posted:

Out of curiosity if you aren't an artist nor a student what do you really use the Pencil for?

Highlighting PDFs in GoodNote at work

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


I bought it just for general use and don't really feel that bad about it. It's an expensive luxury item, yeah, but I use it so much that I don't feel bad about spending the extra money on it. I tried the cheaper Amazon knockoffs and had all of them fail on me, and the ones like the Logitech crayon cost enough that I'd rather just pay the extra and get the nice Apple one that magnetically charges and fits in the side slot on my case and all that nice little quality of life stuff.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

The Grumbles posted:

This is insane to me, do you work as an assistant to an ageing aristocrat?

I honestly don’t even understand your joke here. I work as a creative director at a large corporation and I am in multiple meetings a day. Most require taking good notes and maybe 70% of the time I’m just typing them up on my laptop. There are times where I think the meeting warrants good eye contact or a certain lightness and I’ll use my iPad and pencil and jot stuff down in One Note.

Like I mentioned if I’m interviewing a candidate I feel like it’s more welcoming to not use a laptop.

I much rather do that then write notes in a physical notebook and then have to transcribe them.

some kinda jackal
Feb 25, 2003

 
 

Last Chance posted:

I don’t really get that complaint.. with an epub you can just change your reader app’s typeface settings, line height, etc to whatever you want

Does it lack some advanced formatting stuff that PDFs do better at?

I absolutely acknowledge that it’s a weird -ism on my part, but there’s just something about EPUB vs a traditional typeset and laid out book in terms of presentation that feels lacking. I’m not honestly sure I can articulate it, but I also don’t really expect anyone else to share this sentiment so it’s not a big deal either way :)

Big Bidness
Aug 2, 2004

some kinda jackal posted:

I absolutely acknowledge that it’s a weird -ism on my part, but there’s just something about EPUB vs a traditional typeset and laid out book in terms of presentation that feels lacking. I’m not honestly sure I can articulate it, but I also don’t really expect anyone else to share this sentiment so it’s not a big deal either way :)

I can’t stand the way ebook files space words instead of hyphenating. Hitting a line with only four words hugely spaced out kills my momentum. I use an app called Calibre on my desktop to organize my book collection and use a hyphenation extension. It’s editing tools give you pretty much total control of the look and feel of ebooks, you might want to look into it.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Kirios posted:

Out of curiosity if you aren't an artist nor a student what do you really use the Pencil for?

My ipad is mostly used for filling and signing contracts and thats what the pencil does

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

writing or taking notes?

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Last Chance posted:

writing or taking notes?

:aaa:

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Big Bidness posted:

I can’t stand the way ebook files space words instead of hyphenating. Hitting a line with only four words hugely spaced out kills my momentum. I use an app called Calibre on my desktop to organize my book collection and use a hyphenation extension. It’s editing tools give you pretty much total control of the look and feel of ebooks, you might want to look into it.

some kinda jackal posted:

I absolutely acknowledge that it’s a weird -ism on my part, but there’s just something about EPUB vs a traditional typeset and laid out book in terms of presentation that feels lacking. I’m not honestly sure I can articulate it, but I also don’t really expect anyone else to share this sentiment so it’s not a big deal either way :)

these things make sense... now i'm going to notice them though :mad:

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Last Chance posted:

these things make sense... now i'm going to notice them though :mad:

Ebook (epub) files are nice for flowing to different sizes. PDF can’t do that, it’s intentionally designed not to do that. As someone who spends a lot of time reading US letter sized books and papers, that’s a big part why I got the big iPad Pro, it fits a letter sized page fullscreen at 100% zoom. Conversely it’s heavy and unwieldy in some ways.

It’s trade offs every way we look at stuff, it’s just figuring out what matters to you.

The Grumbles
Jun 5, 2006

The Dave posted:

I honestly don’t even understand your joke here. I work as a creative director at a large corporation and I am in multiple meetings a day. Most require taking good notes and maybe 70% of the time I’m just typing them up on my laptop. There are times where I think the meeting warrants good eye contact or a certain lightness and I’ll use my iPad and pencil and jot stuff down in One Note.

Like I mentioned if I’m interviewing a candidate I feel like it’s more welcoming to not use a laptop.

I much rather do that then write notes in a physical notebook and then have to transcribe them.

I mean just like it seems very antiquated to me to see people using laptops as unprofessional in a meeting. If using a laptop is how someone chooses to organise themselves, their thoughts or their notetaking, I can't imagine me or anywhere I've worked judging them for it. Not to mention the accessibility aspects to it.

The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

The Grumbles posted:

I mean just like it seems very antiquated to me to see people using laptops as unprofessional in a meeting. If using a laptop is how someone chooses to organise themselves, their thoughts or their notetaking, I can't imagine me or anywhere I've worked judging them for it. Not to mention the accessibility aspects to it.

I think a lot of that is my personal thoughts on certain meetings. Almost all tactical / normal meetings with people I know everyone is laptop out, and more so now that we do hybrid meetings and try to support virtual participants.

But if I'm trying to create a setting where there is a connection between me and the other person I find that it can be a barrier. Say if I'm doing user research and interviewing people I just find it creates a better vibe, feels more like a conversation than a task.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
I think my first gen 12.9" iPad pro is starting to get dementia, a bunch of the apps either crash immediately or just kinda hang up and don't function. I have tried to factory reset (I lost some work in procreate that I might actually get back if I wipe and reload the icloud backup from yesterday so that was my first step even if it's extreme) but like many of the other apps it just hangs up forever when I hit "skip backup" and doesn't proceed. I've tried to update to 16.whatever but it just says "getting update" and again hangs there forever. Is there a way to like force a factory reset when nothing is responding?

That being said even if I get stuff up and running again I feel like it's a bad idea to rely on it as my main art machine going forward. What's the best value sweet spot for getting a less old ipad pro? I see like a 2020 pro 12.9" for $618 on Swappa, is that especially good/bad? I figure I can maybe cover the cost of the newer pencil by selling/trading in this one

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GoatSeeGuy
Dec 26, 2003

What if Jerome Walton made me a champion?


Wowporn posted:

I think my first gen 12.9" iPad pro is starting to get dementia, a bunch of the apps either crash immediately or just kinda hang up and don't function. I have tried to factory reset (I lost some work in procreate that I might actually get back if I wipe and reload the icloud backup from yesterday so that was my first step even if it's extreme) but like many of the other apps it just hangs up forever when I hit "skip backup" and doesn't proceed. I've tried to update to 16.whatever but it just says "getting update" and again hangs there forever. Is there a way to like force a factory reset when nothing is responding?

That being said even if I get stuff up and running again I feel like it's a bad idea to rely on it as my main art machine going forward. What's the best value sweet spot for getting a less old ipad pro? I see like a 2020 pro 12.9" for $618 on Swappa, is that especially good/bad? I figure I can maybe cover the cost of the newer pencil by selling/trading in this one

How full is your storage? Anything less than 2-3GB free can cause all of the above.

That said, if it's been running since 2015 an itunes/finder restore and restoring a backup isn't the worst thing, did wonders a month or so ago when my launch 11 was acting up.

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