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People keep saying they're inferior where is any evidence they're substantially inferior? I don't know I'm not an immunologist but people say they're inferior but then the data people post shows a full course of 3 shots being close enough that it seems like splitting hairs.
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https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1623289-20211208.htm Biontech gives you great protection first dose, Sinovac you'll need 3. HK gov originally was going to keep the manufacturer secret so you wouldn't know which one you would get, which predictably lowered confidence even further
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# ? Dec 31, 2022 12:22 |
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BrainDance posted:People keep saying they're inferior where is any evidence they're substantially inferior? it's more that the evidence that they're equal is pretty thin and decidedly not neutral. still i think it's kinda immaterial precisely where they stack up when the failing at hand isn't related to vaccine efficacy, it's related to vaccine policy.
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# ? Dec 31, 2022 19:03 |
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There's also no bivalent or just omicron-focused version, at this point both the Chinese and original mRNA vaccines are fairly ineffective since they're vaccinating for a disease strain which no longer exists. Who knows when they'll start doing omicron boosts. The US offered to send vaccines but China refused. Face much more important than people's lives.
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# ? Dec 31, 2022 19:33 |
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Grand Fromage posted:There's also no bivalent or just omicron-focused version, at this point both the Chinese and original mRNA vaccines are fairly ineffective since they're vaccinating for a disease strain which no longer exists. There is Paxlovid available, but you need to be over 60 (or a well connected party member).
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# ? Dec 31, 2022 20:44 |
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Yeah Korea and Japan are restricting Paxlovid to olds only too. It's dumb as poo poo.
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# ? Dec 31, 2022 20:55 |
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Imperialist Dog posted:Biontech gives you great protection first dose, Sinovac you'll need 3. Yeah but, Sinovac is a 3 dose vaccine. You get the 3 doses. That seems like saying "ibuprofen is an inferior NSAID if you take 50mg of it compared to 500mg acetaminophen"
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# ? Jan 1, 2023 03:54 |
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BrainDance posted:Yeah but, Sinovac is a 3 dose vaccine. You get the 3 doses. It's a two-dose vaccine, though. Seems your weird comparison doesn't make any sense at all!
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# ? Jan 1, 2023 03:58 |
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BrainDance posted:People keep saying they're inferior where is any evidence they're substantially inferior? I posted the study on the last page. Does everyone have me on ignore
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# ? Jan 1, 2023 04:23 |
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ninjoatse.cx posted:I posted the study on the last page. Does everyone have me on ignore yes
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# ? Jan 1, 2023 04:55 |
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Please don't quote people on my ignore list,
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# ? Jan 1, 2023 05:00 |
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BrainDance posted:People keep saying they're inferior where is any evidence they're substantially inferior? Pretty sure there was a study done on this. Anyone got the link?
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# ? Jan 1, 2023 05:02 |
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Criss-cross posted:It's a two-dose vaccine, though. Seems your weird comparison doesn't make any sense at all! I don't know why you're being a dick, like ok sorry like I said I'm not an immunologist, which is why I was asking. I just know that Sinovac was pushed here as something you get 3 shots of. If you have trouble with that comparison, I don't know what to tell you. It was not hard to read. You take more ibuprofen than that... Just like you don't get just 1 shot of any of the vaccines. ninjoatse.cx posted:I posted the study on the last page. Does everyone have me on ignore Yeah I had looked at it, and that's part of why I was thinking that, cuz the study says "Three doses of either vaccine offered very high levels of protection against severe or fatal outcomes" and the charts seemed to basically show both of the vaccines they studied were really/near equally effective at stopping people from dying at 3 shots, which is what I figured mattered. BrainDance fucked around with this message at 05:20 on Jan 1, 2023 |
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Pretty sure Criss-cross was just goofing around
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# ? Jan 1, 2023 05:13 |
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a fine video from the OSHA thread:PurpleXVI posted:Found on Discord, had to upload it to youtube since it's just slightly too long for Imgur.
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 00:58 |
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ronya posted:https://twitter.com/TheRealJoshYe/status/1608009245240492032 the prc's sadism knows no bounds. you starve china of games then release gwent!? gross kind of suprised they didnt get the league card game its decent depending on meta but they correct poo poo metas fast enough and tencent owns like 90% of riot or some poo poo. snergle fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Jan 2, 2023 |
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the latest western tcm i am hearing about is taking pepcid to prevent the cytokene storm
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 01:33 |
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Booty Pageant posted:the latest western tcm i am hearing about is taking pepcid to prevent the cytokene storm It's not TCM unless it comes from the Chinese region of Taiwan, otherwise it's sparkling nonsense.
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 01:34 |
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Empty Sandwich posted:a fine video from the OSHA thread: Lol A+ attempted repurposing of a popcorn cannon. https://youtu.be/XbbROe8xOZQ
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 01:38 |
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:It's not TCM unless it comes from the Chinese region of Taiwan, otherwise it's sparkling nonsense. but what if the paper has all chinese names attached???
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 01:38 |
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Booty Pageant posted:but what if the paper has all chinese names attached??? Is a wine French if it's made in Australia, but the vineyard is called Chateau De Cul?
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 01:48 |
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Methylethylaldehyde posted:Is a wine French if it's made in Australia, but the vineyard is called Chateau De Cul? it's french for whoever can't read product of australia
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 01:51 |
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Sounds like a vin/vin situation to me.
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 02:13 |
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Booty Pageant posted:it's french for whoever can't read product of australia
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Marcade posted:Sounds like a vin/vin situation to me. I want to harm you.
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 02:40 |
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That reminds me of the “south eastern Australian” wine that the really bougie Wanda hotel I used to stay in had laying around in their restaurant. I assume it was just the blended dregs of whatever mega-wineries they could buy on the cheap, sold under some arbitrary brand.
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 02:46 |
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gently caress it, I wanna try the gutter wine
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 03:55 |
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Great Wall is the worst wine I've ever had. Truly vile. Grape kool-aid with enough sugar in it to make a spoon stand up would be less sweet.
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 04:12 |
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Porfiriato posted:Lol A+ attempted repurposing of a popcorn cannon.
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 04:36 |
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Because assploded popcorn is loving amazing.
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 11:47 |
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eSports Chaebol posted:gently caress it, I wanna try the gutter wine Australia also commits the mortal sin, they put metabisulphite into the vino. Gives me a loving headache.
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 13:26 |
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Jiayang Fan wrote a good article on wineries in China: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/12/can-wine-transform-chinas-countryside There's actually some decent stuff but all you'll usually get is Great Wall
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 13:44 |
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Grand Fromage posted:Great Wall is the worst wine I've ever had. Truly vile. Grape kool-aid with enough sugar in it to make a spoon stand up would be less sweet. there should be a wine brand called grape wall of china
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BrassRoots posted:Australia also commits the mortal sin, they put metabisulphite into the vino. Gives me a loving headache. It could be the egg, fish, nuts etc as well? nah...
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# ? Jan 2, 2023 14:08 |
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Porfiriato posted:Lol A+ attempted repurposing of a popcorn cannon. thank you! I was wondering what the gently caress that device was for. Nam Taf posted:That reminds me of the “south eastern Australian” wine that the really bougie Wanda hotel I used to stay in had laying around in their restaurant. there's a short Python bit on Australian table wines that I listened to a lot as a kid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbOZccv9ym8&t=12s I was really surprised to learn that Wagga Wagga is a real place
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Empty Sandwich posted:
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Empty Sandwich posted:I was really surprised to learn that Wagga Wagga is a real place It's the next town over from where I live. It has 70k people, which in Australian terms is a city and in Chinese terms is a village
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# ? Jan 3, 2023 03:35 |
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The US has Walla Walla, so I don't understand why Wagga Wagga is so farfetched.
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# ? Jan 3, 2023 04:00 |
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McGavin posted:The US has Walla Walla, so I don't understand why Wagga Wagga is so farfetched. Ours has onions, yours has werewolves. YES WE REMEMBER THOSE BOOKS WHAT MAKES YOU WE'D FORGET!?
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Nigmaetcetera posted:Ours has onions, yours has werewolves. YES WE REMEMBER THOSE BOOKS WHAT MAKES YOU WE'D FORGET!? Canada would never name a place something that stupid.
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