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Osmosisch
Sep 9, 2007

I shall make everyone look like me! Then when they trick each other, they will say "oh that Coyote, he is the smartest one, he can even trick the great Coyote."



Grimey Drawer

Tann posted:

This is actually coming next update, but maybe not how you expect/want!
`statue-p=aaa:2a2:20-i=seedling-i=terrarium-n=moss`


Haha, I love the new avatar, though I'll miss the pigeon. Putting those itch.io profits to good use!

Also very cool to get a class editor albeit via text.

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CraigSlice
Sep 23, 2005
: )
Do all the sides of the dice have equal chance of rolling? I swear it seems the two right are lower than the rest

Arzaac
Jan 2, 2020


Onmi posted:

Now it's time for Unfair and what is a 'good' set of curses?

My personal experience is that you want to generally kill all enemies as fast as possible, so you mostly want to avoid curses that make the enemies take longer to kill, like +monster HP curses. Ideally you take stuff like Monster Column or Doom, because hopefully they won't be alive long enough for it to matter.

Avasculous
Aug 30, 2008
I was really confused why Fidget Spinner (Duplicate, Repeat Dice) was a level 0 item until I used it and found out.

Smiling Knight
May 31, 2011

Just picked this up. Seems very cool. However, I just reached the final boss, and lost because my casters took huge damage from something called “mana burn.” I did not see this in the glossary. What causes this — high mana? Final boss effect?

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Hexia, one of the final bosses, has that as their ability.

YggiDee
Sep 12, 2007

WASP CREW
Yeah, that's an ability exclusive to Hexia, other final bosses have different stuff going on.

TravelLog
Jul 22, 2013

He's a mean one, Mr. Roy.

LifeLynx posted:

I had Hexia on 1 HP and poisoned, so she was going to die. I could have killed her with a Burst, but it would have killed one of my two remaining heroes with mana burn, so I hit end turn. She died - but not before summoning a demon that ended the run. Lesson learned, always take the shot!

While I'm here: tier list for starting blessings in Blursed mode?

Here is my rough list of initial 4-point blessings as someone who hit 309 in Blursed. Note that as you get further into a run, some of these become better (e.g. Survival Specialist or Treasure Seeker) or worse (e.g. Cruel Burst, since you will end up losing Burst due to curses). These are generally in no particular order within a given tier.
  • S: Bolt
  • A: Save, Boss Smash, Leyline, Shrink
  • A-: Fizzing, Lucky Start
  • B: Treasure Seeker, Jeweled Chalice, +1 Reroll, Middle Shield
  • B-: Preparation, Turn 3 Heal, Greased Dice
  • C: Shiny, Youth, Potential
  • D: Vitamin E, Survival Specialist, Cache
  • F: Fumes, Cataclysm

Andante
Jul 3, 2008

Inceltown posted:

Is there a list of secrets anywhere? I've got 16 and wondering just how many I've missed.

I would love to see a list of secret achievements.

I've managed to collect 13 of them:
- Complete classic with 0 deaths
- Complete classic with 30 or fewer turns
- Complete classic with 25 or fewer turns
- Complete classic in 45 minutes or less
- Equip 3 items to the Collector
- Beat Custom Party with every combination of 5x the same hero
- Roll 4 different types of blanks at once
- Win 1000 fights
- Lose 3 heroes by using an ability
- Revive 2 heroes at once
- Allow Dragon to flee
- Allow Barrel to flee
- Overkill an enemy by 10 or more


Also, I do not have but others have mentioned killing Hexia using the spell Hex.

Andante fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Jan 3, 2023

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

Andante posted:

I would love to see a list of secret achievements.

I've managed to collect 13 of them:
- Complete classic with 0 deaths
- Complete classic with 30 or fewer turns
- Complete classic with 25 or fewer turns
- Complete classic in 45 minutes or less
- Equip 3 items to the Collector
- Beat Custom Party with every combination of 5x the same hero
- Roll 4 different types of blanks at once
- Win 1000 fights
- Lose 3 heroes by using an ability
- Revive 2 heroes at once
- Allow Dragon to flee
- Allow Barrel to flee
- Overkill an enemy by 10 or more


Here are the ones I have that aren't on your list - you've got a couple for me to smash out at least. Gives me a bit of an idea of a few to try for too.


- Equip 3 items to Curator
- Equip 3 items to Hoarder
- Get a streak of 2 on Classic Normal
- Lose 4 heroes by using an ability
- Get a streak of 2 on Classic Normal

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.



Unfair, I quite like the Wanderer, but I also feel like it really needs the assistance of items/a buffer to properly pop off, whereas I do really like the Shaman over the Enchanted but maybe there's a better Red to go to.

EDIT: Went Shaman, died to Troll King, I hate Slates

EDIT 2:

These choices seem awful, I don't have the items to make Twin work, and Ghast just seems much worse than Glacia

Onmi fucked around with this message at 15:32 on Jan 3, 2023

Smiling Knight
May 31, 2011

silvergoose posted:

Hexia, one of the final bosses, has that as their ability.

Thank you! I was looking in the wrong places.

Pain of Mind
Jul 10, 2004
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Inceltown posted:

Here are the ones I have that aren't on your list - you've got a couple for me to smash out at least. Gives me a bit of an idea of a few to try for too.


- Equip 3 items to Curator
- Equip 3 items to Hoarder
- Get a streak of 2 on Classic Normal
- Lose 4 heroes by using an ability
- Get a streak of 2 on Classic Normal


A few that I have that have not been listed:
Complete custom party on unfair or harder with no reds or blues
Lose X heroes by using ability goes up to at least 6 and covers every number in-between

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

Another one is complete classic with 0 healing.

Nighthand
Nov 4, 2009

what horror the gas

For people who do Brutal with all blues, do you keep the basic Mage around for Flare through the whole thing? I keep getting a decent ways in but end up with mediocre damage spells.

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

As much as I enjoy the big hit that flare has there is more than enough damage from l2 blues to make up for it. I've never once avoided swapping it out.

Angry Diplomat
Nov 7, 2009

Winner of the TSR Memorial Award for Excellence In Grogging

Pain of Mind posted:

Lose X heroes by using ability goes up to at least 6

Lmao I never even thought of trying this, gently caress

Pigbuster
Sep 12, 2010

Fun Shoe
If you kill all your heroes during your turn, does the game end before you can undo it?

Pain of Mind
Jul 10, 2004
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Pigbuster posted:

If you kill all your heroes during your turn, does the game end before you can undo it?

Yea, pretty sure it does.

Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.
The most recent achievement I got was Draw, which is what it says on the tin. Win the fight and have all of your characters dead at the same time. You do get revived and move onto the next fight.

Pigbuster
Sep 12, 2010

Fun Shoe
Holy moly trying to get the 2-streak brutal normal achievement is really driving me nuts. Literally every single run I've gotten to the end goes against the dragon which I can never outdamage with the utility-heavy teams I need to get there

Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

Pigbuster posted:

Holy moly trying to get the 2-streak brutal normal achievement is really driving me nuts. Literally every single run I've gotten to the end goes against the dragon which I can never outdamage with the utility-heavy teams I need to get there

I just died to the dragon because the gently caress kept rolling fireball.

Tann
Apr 1, 2009

Pigbuster posted:

Holy moly trying to get the 2-streak brutal normal achievement is really driving me nuts. Literally every single run I've gotten to the end goes against the dragon which I can never outdamage with the utility-heavy teams I need to get there

Nobody has gotten this, check the brutal leaderboard.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.
What's the best way people have gotten through Brutal? I think via Custom Full Mage I've gotten to like... 10, max?

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

Onmi posted:

What's the best way people have gotten through Brutal? I think via Custom Full Mage I've gotten to like... 10, max?

Custom full mage got me there and it was a very apt name for it.

Pigbuster
Sep 12, 2010

Fun Shoe


Oh, hello.

Tann posted:

Nobody has gotten this, check the brutal leaderboard.

whoops, I meant Unfair.

Pigbuster fucked around with this message at 10:56 on Jan 4, 2023

Tann
Apr 1, 2009

Pigbuster posted:

whoops, I meant Unfair.

Ah that makes more sense! It's very very hard and the unlock is a joke. Maybe I should remove the unfair streak achievement so people don't feel like they need to beat it...

silvergoose
Mar 18, 2006

IT IS SAID THE TEARS OF THE BWEENIX CAN HEAL ALL WOUNDS




Tann posted:

Ah that makes more sense! It's very very hard and the unlock is a joke. Maybe I should remove the unfair streak achievement so people don't feel like they need to beat it...

nah, it was honestly a pretty cool thing to go for.

Brutal is ridiculous though, it really is. Then there's hell.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.



I think if you hit the Slime boss on Brutal there's no way past it, I fully expect to eat total poo poo if I roll Hexia too. Should I take a Warlock or a second Artificer?

Angry Diplomat
Nov 7, 2009

Winner of the TSR Memorial Award for Excellence In Grogging
If you keep that jester and have him evade, I think he can tank the mana burn while you turbofuck Hexia with Blaze

Big Mad Drongo
Nov 10, 2006

Angry Diplomat posted:

If you keep that jester and have him evade, I think he can tank the mana burn while you turbofuck Hexia with Blaze

Yeah, I won my Brutal run that way with a Chronos doing the dodge-tanking. Dodge avoids all damage, including stuff from abilities.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Dodge doesn't avoid sandstorm or sacrifice damage.

Skyl3lazer
Aug 27, 2007

[Dooting Stealthily]



Dang, unfair is really hard. I have no idea how I managed one win on it on my first attempt, I guess I rolled well

Junpei
Oct 4, 2015
Probation
Can't post for 11 years!
I avoid Myco like the plague, is there some sort of secret trick to him that makes him actually good, or is he really just a "gets good mana early into a round, then pivots to revival and his growth sides when he exhausts the Decay on his mana gain" type

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Junpei posted:

I avoid Myco like the plague, is there some sort of secret trick to him that makes him actually good, or is he really just a "gets good mana early into a round, then pivots to revival and his growth sides when he exhausts the Decay on his mana gain" type

Most fights can be ended very quickly, so for most purposes he's got the same mana distribution as Evoker with a couple backup sides and a Hail Mary revive option.

His spell is a bit meh though--you can pop it on anyone with an attack to do +1 damage for 1 mana, which is fine, but the drawbacks on it are awful compared to Vine. It does get better if you can match it up with value multipliers like poison/cleave/hit-all, so he does have some synergy, but by and large yeah I think he's pretty niche at best.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer
Got to 126 on Blursed! ...A four hour run. I know I didn't stare at my phone for four hours total but drat that was addicting. What killed me was taking all the curses that gave shields to enemies on taking damage, ally death, etc. so it screwed up the combat math.

Pocket Billiards
Aug 29, 2007
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2 Hard classic wins in a day, both with 1 spell per turn curse. Dragon and Hexia. Had only a single win previously on Hard.

Stockpiling mana for bonuses rather than damage worked well both runs so I think Ibwas quite lucky for RNG items.

Dragon fight I had a high armour dice with the bonus to reuse if it saves someone that made fireball a non issue.

For Hexia it was a few massive damage kamikaze attacks that did it
.

Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.




Aaaah so close this time! Mortal just hosed me over along with mana generation just falling off

Inceltown
Aug 6, 2019

Damage taken: 292
Blocked: 9

That is some tender meat for the bbq

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Onmi
Jul 12, 2013

If someone says it one more time I'm having Florina show up as a corpse. I'm not even kidding, I was pissed off with people doing that shit back in 2010, and I'm not dealing with it now in 2016.


Another run chunked so close to the finish line. Double Basilisk.

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