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Painting shouldn't feel like a chore, and it's okay to drop it if you're not enjoying it at all. It actually makes me sad that you're so frustrated and I'd love to reach out and help however possible. That said, have you considered working with a teacher? Either by going to a convention, or by working with someone in your area? I know several of the content creators, including Sam Lenz, Richard Gray, Juan Hidalgo, and Trovarion all offer classes via Discord for patrons. Having someone look at what you're doing and telling you where you're going wrong may be a great way to soften the learning curve. Hell, even if you don't find a dedicated mini painter, some fine art classes on acrylic paints may be another option? Or a hobby painting group at your local FLGS?
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The Demilich posted:Question: There are some alternatives but they all suck to varying degrees, like watered-down grout. Very messy, takes a while to dry, but it'll get the foam surface quite hard and durable. You just have to be really confident no foam is showing if you're going to spray prime. Or check out youtube to see if anyone recommends any foam-safe spray primers. There are a few, IIRC it's primarily the enamel primers (which is most of them) that are really dangerous.
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Harvey Mantaco posted:My favorite thing in this thread is the "this is what I did this year" mega-dumps at the end of December. Seeing how people evolved (especially new painters) and the themes they chose. Liked commented and subscribed. Your latest video was good content. Will watch whatever you do next.
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SkyeAuroline posted:Primer is Rustoleum Camo Black, which I've used consistently since ~2015 with no issues until the last few months. You're already priming black, so I recommend drybrushing the whole thing. I do one pass at a darker shade than the intended color, one shade at the intended color, and a highlight pass. I will also sometimes do an additional edge highlighting pass. This will take your wet palette issues out of the equation. Because when I say drybrush I mean dry. I use a piece of tile as a palette. I put paint on it, pick up some with a brush, and then work it over a quality paper towel to both remove excess paint but especially any moisture from what's on the brush. This is not great for the brush, but it's terrific for the mini you're painting. Dry. Pigment on bristles. Finish those three or four layers, hit any details like eyes, and you're done. You won't get any Golden Demon winners, but you will be able to put out minis that look great on the table.
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ugh went to prime some minis and my spray cap completely snapped off in a weird way I can't even like temporarily use. I ordered some new primer but can I just thin some normal Skull White and brush prime, or will even that be too thick?
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Charity Porno posted:ugh went to prime some minis and my spray cap completely snapped off in a weird way I can't even like temporarily use. Brush-on priming is usually fine, though you may need multiple coats if you thin it down. I would recommend a dedicated primer though, not just a regular white or black paint.
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Charity Porno posted:ugh went to prime some minis and my spray cap completely snapped off in a weird way I can't even like temporarily use.
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gesso is really thick and will clog details, don't use it. Any model primer from Vallejo, Scale75, etc is perfect to be brushed on.
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Gesso can be gritty too, it is worse than painting directly on plastic
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Jan 2, 2023 18:22
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I'm thinking about getting a vortex mixer but there's so many out there and most have not good reviews. I don't want to drop $100+ on a lab one, but I don't want one that breaks after a week. Is there one that anyone's used and had good luck with?
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Floppychop posted:I'm thinking about getting a vortex mixer but there's so many out there and most have not good reviews. I don't want to drop $100+ on a lab one, but I don't want one that breaks after a week. Is there one that anyone's used and had good luck with? I have this one and it's been going strong for a while. I glued some googly eyes to it as well https://www.amazon.com/INTLLAB-Function-Vortexer-Adhesives-Centrifuge/dp/B08CR43XR3
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Spanish Manlove posted:I have this one and it's been going strong for a while. I glued some googly eyes to it as well I have that same mixer and can also vouch for its quality and durability.
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You can also watch eBay for lab mixers, I got a hardcore one for about $30 because it was missing the (easily replaced) rubber plate.
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Floppychop posted:I'm thinking about getting a vortex mixer but there's so many out there and most have not good reviews. I don't want to drop $100+ on a lab one, but I don't want one that breaks after a week. Is there one that anyone's used and had good luck with? https://www.amazon.com/Mini-Vortex-Mixer-Scientific-Interface/dp/B08KSTMNTJ/ I got this one for my birthday and it's been  for at least 7 months so far.
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I haven't heard of using a lab/vortex mixer for paints before, how noticable are the benefits?
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arsenicCatnip posted:I haven't heard of using a lab/vortex mixer for paints before, how noticable are the benefits? For army painter paints and other paints with bigger separation issues it is really, really helpful and I love mine. Most of my citadel paint I can shake by hand and it will be fine, but for an all day painting session I really like having the mixer. It works better if you have agitators in the paint pot though.
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IncredibleIgloo posted:For army painter paints and other paints with bigger separation issues it is really, really helpful and I love mine. Most of my citadel paint I can shake by hand and it will be fine, but for an all day painting session I really like having the mixer. It works better if you have agitators in the paint pot though. I actually use army painter paints and I have noticed those issues in some paints. Might have to grab one with christmas money
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I think for most people* a vortex mixer is a nice luxury. I got a cheap one for about £30 (just looked and its up to 38 now on amazon) and I've not regretted it for a second, if it breaks I'll be buying a replacement. Its just a nice quality of life improvement to be able to go brrr and the paint is mixed. Some of my paints dont need it, but some contrast paints and tesseract glow seperate a lot in the pots, and if I havent used them for a while it takes a while to shake all the pigment back into the paint by hand even with an agitator. I'm always slightly reluctant to recommend someone get one because they really arent necessary and its an expensive hobby to start with but... If you have hobby money going spare, there are definitely worse things you could buy with it. Its a nice thing to have, and speeds up workflow that little bit when you suddenly realise that you have the perfect paint for a thing, but its in a dropper bottle thats been standing upright for 6 months and will need some shaking. *obviously if someone has issues that mean they cant shake paint by hand then they may be a necessity.
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Spanish Manlove posted:I have this one and it's been going strong for a while. I glued some googly eyes to it as well I also bought this one a few months ago, working fine so far. The bottom of Vallejo bottles feel like they're perfectly sized to slip off the pad just enough to stop the motor. Holding them upside down seems to work fine. No paint on them yet, but finally built up some eldar corsairs for kill team using spare guardians and old forge world bits: 
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Vortex mixers are worth it just for the sheer time saving alone, it's 5-10 seconds of holding a bottle on a rubber nipple and having perfectly mixed paint vs 60+ seconds of vigorously shaking it with your wrist and not even mixing the paint nearly as well
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Do they work for metallic paint?
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TheCondor posted:I also bought this one a few months ago, working fine so far. The bottom of Vallejo bottles feel like they're perfectly sized to slip off the pad just enough to stop the motor. Holding them upside down seems to work fine. I broke a few bottle caps by holding them upside down, so don't do that. For vallejo bottles I just hold them at an angle on there
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Anyone got a recomendation for a cheapish desk lamp that's good for painting ect.?
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Silhouette posted:Vortex mixers are worth it just for the sheer time saving alone, it's 5-10 seconds of holding a bottle on a rubber nipple and having perfectly mixed paint vs 60+ seconds of vigorously shaking it with your wrist and not even mixing the paint nearly as well Quoting a post of mine from the last time the "vortex mixer" topic came up, with before and after pics showing why I personally consider it a necessity rather than a luxury for mini painting: Sydney Bottocks posted:All's I can say is your experience is completely different than mine.
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Spanish Manlove posted:gesso is really thick and will clog details, don't use it. Professor Shark posted:Gesso can be gritty too, it is worse than painting directly on plastic You can absolutely use it, just needs some working which may make it not worthwhile. Gesso guide
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Ravus Ursus posted:You can absolutely use it, just needs some working which may make it not worthwhile. Note: if you’re going to the art store to buy gesso, you’re probably passing the hardware store which sells spray primer for way cheaper. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5edMoq7YjY Get the stuff in the can on the left.
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Time to introduce my looted kitchen tool horror to the vortex scene since initially I was too poor to invest in a vortex mixer and now that I have a "working solution", why bother buying a proper mixer.  The hand cranked salad mixer!  Behold! A pot of VGC that's been sitting in a box for about 7 years. It's thicker than tar at the bottom and the medium has separated.  Observe the juxtaposition of paint residue inside the mixer and DIY protective casing made with tape and paper (recycled between mixes ofc.). This is due to earlier spins during which an unprotected dropper bottle sheared its bottom seam open from the friction against everything during a spin. I gave it about 10 seconds of clockwise spins followed by 10 seconds of counterclockwise and repeated both directions for good measure. Paint flows excellent, no impacted acrylic or separated medium in the bottle. I've used this to recover my old pots of Citadel and P3 metallics too. Cons: - The gears on this thing are plastic so it's only a matter of time before they grind to dust, forcing me to actually buy a real mixer. - Need to form fit the paper + tape protection per pot shape and replace them as needed (wasteful) or the mixer will likely break your pot for an impromptu art project.
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Vagabong posted:Anyone got a recomendation for a cheapish desk lamp that's good for painting ect.? I use this thing and it's perfect for my (very, very beginner) needs. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Fancii-Daylight-Magnifying-Rechargeable-Metal/dp/B01MRJ5HU4/ e: I also use a headlamp sometimes if I don't need the magnifier, because bright light hurts my eyes so sometimes I can't have a light shining anywhere other than 'directly away from me'
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Vagabong posted:Anyone got a recomendation for a cheapish desk lamp that's good for painting ect.? https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/tertial-work-lamp-with-led-bulb-dark-gray-00424985/ Get two, put both of them on either side of you. Also a daylight bulb Spanish Manlove fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Jan 2, 2023 |
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HopperUK posted:I use this thing and it's perfect for my (very, very beginner) needs. I have a more rigid version and it works well. I respect that there's LEDs around the magnifying glass so you get a really great look at whatever you need to see, but my hand/eye coordination goes to poo poo if I try to paint that way.
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Jonny Nox posted:Note: if you’re going to the art store to buy gesso, you’re probably passing the hardware store which sells spray primer for way cheaper. Fair enough, but this works as both brush on and through an air gun. And price per oz probably gets your more via the gesso format. I use this homemade bit, but I work for an art and craft company so I have access to some strange stuff.
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Sherbert Hoover posted:I have a more rigid version and it works well. I respect that there's LEDs around the magnifying glass so you get a really great look at whatever you need to see, but my hand/eye coordination goes to poo poo if I try to paint that way. I have a similar one that's on an armature, https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09X16JN93/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1 I don't use the magnifier much, mainly just for faces, but a positionable ring shaped LED is top notch good poo poo.
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First mini of the year done. An engineer for my Space Station Zero crew Crew so far is just the engineer and the captain  Hopefully this year, I can work at a better pace than last year...
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Not a year in review because time is meaningless these days and I can't remember what I did this year, but I just finished up a bunch of Nurgly bois that I'm pretty happy with.       I swear these are three different crawlers I magnetized all the weapons even thought there's probably no point.  
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To quote Mr. Scott, "It's... it's green!"
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Those are some incredibly excellent Gross Green Boys.
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Vagabong posted:Anyone got a recomendation for a cheapish desk lamp that's good for painting ect.? I stand by these beauties available through Amazon: Globe Electric 56963 32" Multi-Joint Desk Lamp Toss in a daylight LED bulb and you're set.
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Crosspost, finished my Alpha Galaxy Ghost Bears! Aside from a tiny amount of drying time on the water effects on two of the bases. Assault Star  Striker Star  Sweep Star  Elemental Star  I really hate my phone. I put everything together and took a picture and what does it do? gently caress with the cockpit colors of everything but the Supernova.  
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I put some initial paint on 8 models today, and got caught up on the imperium magazine for 4 of them, at least partially. Nothing really fancy to show off, just necron immortals, tomb blade, and technomancer have some overall progress on them.
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Bucnasti posted:Not a year in review because time is meaningless these days and I can't remember what I did this year, but I just finished up a bunch of Nurgly bois that I'm pretty happy with. I'm in love with his vibrant this is
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