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Mooseontheloose posted:The Republican energy platform: Burn the Elderly then let one car get electrified. See also their climate plan to drown the elderly rather than let a single coal power plant be decommissioned
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Possible Outcomes, in the order of my perceived likelihood: The matter is hashed out privately behind closed doors, resulting in a single successful vote for McCarthy or Scalise. The matter is hashed out publicly, with a half dozen votes before we end up with McCarthy, Scalise, or Upton later today. The matter drags out until tomorrow or later, but not so long that we hit the debt ceiling. A compromise candidate is picked with just Republican votes. A Republican compromise candidate is selected with Republican votes, but it's an empty position without power after some rule changes, like letting anyone put a bill on the calendar with sufficient votes. The matter drags out, and a Republican candidate is picked with Democratic votes and support of the Democratic leadership, likely with some concessions regarding the the debt ceiling and the like. The matter drags out, a sufficient number of Republicans vote present or abstain, and a Democratic candidate is picked with Democratic votes. A Republican candidate is picked with Democratic votes but without the support of the Democratic leadership. We get our first no confidence vote for a speaker within the next two years. A Democratic candidate is picked with Republican votes.
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Dems should bring popcorn onto the floor and pass it around before voting starts.
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Why isn't the thread title https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Can_F**k_Himself
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Jan 3, 2023 16:07
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The "Speaker Jeffries" thing is just the Freedom Caucus trying to stand firm in negotiations. You don't have a "private meeting" where that statement leaks immediately for any other reason except as a way to say "We won't budge no matter what" publicly.
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Jan 3, 2023 16:07
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Lot going on https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1610262355920683009https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1610288610334449664https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1610290177682841601https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1610290341621497856https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1610290652536836109https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1610291416600825856 https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1610290773253144578https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/1610290785001381889
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https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1610290823630917636?cxt=HHwWiMC8-Z2-89gsAAAA https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1610289917715943426?cxt=HHwWhMDQrcCJ89gsAAAA So basically this doesn't look good for McCarthy and it sounds like he's actually losing votes as he's speaking. This is gonna be bad for him.
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https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1610291699749625862 https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1610293493221527553 Piell fucked around with this message at 16:14 on Jan 3, 2023 |
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Jan 3, 2023 16:10
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"I earned this job" says man who did nothing to earn it. Entitlement projection at maximum.
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Jan 3, 2023 16:14
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The sad part is we know the Republican party can't govern and the American public seems not to care at all. Like, the Republicans will choose someone horrible, they won't pass a budget, things will suck and the American public shrugs and goes but balance?
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Jan 3, 2023 16:20
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Please god, let this be a shitshow.
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Jan 3, 2023 16:20
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https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1610295268997464064 https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1610295101015887873 https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1610295705989423104
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Piell posted:https://twitter.com/Olivia_Beavers/status/1610295268997464064  20 members voting against the probable speaker on the first ballot is insane. The question is how many stay the course on the second ballot and beyond
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Jan 3, 2023 16:24
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I want trump to tweet "maybe I should throw my hat in the ring?"
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eat poo poo kevin mccarthy
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cr0y posted:I want trump to tweet "maybe I should throw my hat in the ring?" Praying for this to heal our Grand Ol' Party.
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Mooseontheloose posted:The sad part is we know the Republican party can't govern and the American public seems not to care at all. Like, the Republicans will choose someone horrible, they won't pass a budget, things will suck and the American public shrugs and goes but balance? Nah, they will blame Joe Biden for it.
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Jan 3, 2023 16:46
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KingMaker Donny silent
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Jan 3, 2023 16:54
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This is good pre-drama but I think McCarthy is still speaker by the end of the day if not tomorrow. Every time the GOP fights we cheer them on, but they often lack the backbone to follow through with any of their infighting or threats.
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Jan 3, 2023 16:54
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Bob Good (or Scott Perry? Idk) just said that McCarthy asked for who they wanted on committees and basically said that McCarthy was lying to the conference when he said the HFC had a personal wish list E: Matt Gaetz just said "there is very little difference between Kevin McCarthy and Nancy Pelosi". Even if they make McCarthy speaker this sort of attack is gonna rub people raw. E2: probably already assumed but Boebert just announced she's not voting for McCarthy Seth Pecksniff fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Jan 3, 2023 |
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Jan 3, 2023 16:55
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Harlock posted:This is good pre-drama but I think McCarthy is still speaker by the end of the day if not tomorrow. Twenty people is enough that McCarthy won't be Speaker. If it were only five I'd reluctantly agree with you but twenty is the new Speaker ends up beholden to the Dems territory.
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Jan 3, 2023 17:00
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1. Speaker vote is scheduled, Dems don't show up and McCarthy becomes Speaker with <200 votes 2. Freedom Caucus schedule no-confidence vote in McCarthy 3. It passes with Dem support 4. Goto 1
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Jan 3, 2023 17:03
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If anything, there's lots of fun quotes: https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1610304995085410309?t=fnnj77_6kj_4fS5_Ul245g&s=19
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Jan 3, 2023 17:04
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Seth Pecksniff posted:Bob Good (or Scott Perry? Idk) just said that McCarthy asked for who they wanted on committees and basically said that McCarthy was lying to the conference when he said the HFC had a personal wish list In the HFC “Kevin McCarthy had an opportunity to be Speaker of the House. He rejected it.” statement from three hours ago the HFC said they gave specific names willing to serve on each committee. So its just semantic games and bullshitting, HFC is going to pull the trigger in an hour just to show they have power.
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Jan 3, 2023 17:05
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https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1610304644885913604 https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1610305792376201216
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Jan 3, 2023 17:06
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133 votes is wild. Just at a cursory search, it looks like Nathaniel Hale was selected as speaker after two months and 21 reps initially threw their hats in the ring. https://twitter.com/stevekornacki/status/1610301040993222656?s=46&t=CyIkbMgHbIFkS-3pkb0qCA
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Jan 3, 2023 17:12
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How does McCarthy run the House when he can't even run his conference? He'd be a Speaker in name only. E: apparently Jim Jordan is saying McCarthy is going to get the votes. Take that for what it's worth
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Jan 3, 2023 17:12
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Harlock posted:This is good pre-drama but I think McCarthy is still speaker by the end of the day if not tomorrow. If they can find someone else that is remotely viable I think he loses the job
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Jan 3, 2023 17:13
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Me, pounding an imaginary table in my mind now that K-Mack actually spoke the words himself: Spea-ker Jeff-ries. Spea-ker Jeff-ries!
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Jan 3, 2023 17:13
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Harlock posted:If anything, there's lots of fun quotes: Crisis detractors
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I’m really enjoying the pause after that line to give the journalists time to write down the quote she workshopped with her team all night.
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Jan 3, 2023 17:18
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FlamingLiberal posted:Eh, it sounds like a lot of his caucus really doesn’t like him I think that much is true and he'll be humiliated on the first ballot as a protest vote. I'm just in believe it when I see it territory that they'd really outst him. Edit: lol https://twitter.com/MZanona/status/1610308032340148230?t=hA0M30DU9vSI8ukJkhtvxA&s=19
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Harlock posted:I think that much is true and he'll be humiliated on the first ballot as a protest vote. I'm just in believe it when I see it territory that they'd really outst him. I feel like it's going to be first ballot Kevin no, and then it's going to be wild and crazy with people voting for different people for speaker At least I hope it's true to be honest
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generic one posted:133 votes is wild. Just at a cursory search, it looks like Nathaniel Hale was selected as speaker after two months and 21 reps initially threw their hats in the ring. The only things I know about Nathaniel Banks are that he was simultaneously too radical and not radical enough in his abolitionism and that he had great hair 
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Jan 3, 2023 17:23
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FlamingLiberal posted:Eh, it sounds like a lot of his caucus really doesn’t like him It's possible a few of the McCarthy loyalists might reject any alternate candidate just to spite the "anyone but McCarthy" group, due to a perception that the latter group doesn't have specific issues with McCarthy and are only doing this to demonstrate their influence. That's the really beautiful part about this speaker election. Rather than actually being about the specific candidate, it's become a stage for factional spite and resentment to play out. How long this goes on will depend on how insistent the various factions are on asserting their strength, and how much they bitterly hate each other. This will entirely depend on how stubborn everyone involved is willing to be.
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Jan 3, 2023 17:23
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Part of this issue is instead of stamping out the HFC at its inception, or at least trying to sideline them, it grew like a boil and this is the inevitable result of the entire 2010's Republican conference leadership's deference to a band of lunatics
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generic one posted:133 votes is wild. Just at a cursory search, it looks like Nathaniel Hale was selected as speaker after two months and 21 reps initially threw their hats in the ring. there are two Nathaniel Hale's: One was a Patriot spy caught and hanged by the British army during the revolution who famously stated that he regretted he only had a single life to give for his country. The other is the legal name of rapper Nate Dogg who famously stated: "I got hoes in different area codes". I don't believe either ever served as speaker
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Jan 3, 2023 17:26
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I would like to see Kevin McCarthy sitting on the house floor weeping into his hands with a spotlight on him like he's Shinji from Evangelion while everyone else argues around him on who they want to be Speaker that's anyone BUT him.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:there are two Nathaniel Hale's: One was a Patriot spy caught and hanged by the British army during the revolution who famously stated that he regretted he only had a single life to give for his country. The other is the legal name of rapper Nate Dogg who famously stated: "I got hoes in different area codes". I don't believe either ever served as speaker I know which one would get my vote though
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More people coming out as No on McCarthy https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/status/1610312717566361600?cxt=HHwWgICyvdC4_dgsAAAA
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