|
It seems like they're still acting as though cryptomining will carry demand, or that GPU demand is somehow inelastic, even in the face of consoles that cost half as much as the 4070 Ti.
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 17:36
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 5, 2024 18:04 |
|
|
it’s prolly (wait for reviews) a better price/performance than the card it replaces at that price point. if you don’t like the price point or performance, as always, don’t buy it. nobody needs these, and nobody should feel pressured to play at 4k/144 or whatever just because it’s all the rage, and there are (usually) better used deals from a prior gen to be had. the only thing weird about nvidia/AMDs pricing and naming is the belief that there are people to whom $800 is just right, but the other cards too extravagant. is there really that much price granularity for these toys? do we really need this many SKUs from both brands over $500?
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 17:42
|
|
|
K8.0 posted:Another product that literally no people should buy, along with the 4080 one of the worst deals in the history of computing products. I'm pretty sure I can come up with some worse ones.
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 17:47
|
|
|
Really unless you're trying to do 4k144hz I don't see much reason to even think about the new gen GPUs, for $500-600 you can get a last gen card that'll pretty easily be able to handle at least 1440p144. E: Actually never mind I just found out GALAX are doing a pink 4070Ti can anyone lend me $800?  Also this line in the Videocardz article made me laugh. quote:NVIDIA confirms that RTX 4070 Ti is ‘faster than RTX 3090 Ti’, but the slide does not really explain how. Also they announced the laptop versions of the whole 40 series stack down to the 4050. Looks like the usual laptop standard of dropping the performance down a level but keeping the same name, so a laptop 4070 is roughly a desktop 4060. 
njsykora fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Jan 3, 2023 |
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 18:00
|
|
|
Inept posted:It seems like they're still acting as though cryptomining will carry demand, or that GPU demand is somehow inelastic, even in the face of consoles that cost half as much as the 4070 Ti. It's truly inexplicable and I really hope this experiment fails for them. loving greedy bastards.
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 18:13
|
|
|
Maybe TSMC 4N was a mistake
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 18:15
|
|
|
Rinkles posted:Maybe TSMC 4N was a mistake Anything past 22nm was extravagance
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 18:18
|
|
|
Also holy poo poo I just noticed they're launching this thing in 2 days, god help all the reviewers who are scrambling to do their reviews on whatever cards they've gotten. E: Oh yeah and no FE model, so all of these cards are going to be at least $900. njsykora fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Jan 3, 2023 |
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 18:20
|
|
|
njsykora posted:Also holy poo poo I just noticed they're launching this thing in 2 days, god help all the reviewers who are scrambling to do their reviews on whatever cards they've gotten. I’m already seeing some 4070Ti listed at Best Buy, at $840 and $900
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 18:25
|
|
|
Zedsdeadbaby posted:It's truly inexplicable and I really hope this experiment fails for them. loving greedy bastards. If you look at the last 2 years of NVDA it makes perfect sense. Nvidia's stock price has fallen >50% since late 2021, their earnings are way down and until and unless Nvidia starts really scaling up in the AI market as it probably grows, their projections are likely overly optimistic. Consistently missing projections is not a thing the market generally considers a sign of a healthy company, so they are desperate to keep profit, expected profit, and thus stock price all high by juicing consumers. Consumers have to push back and tell Jensen to eat a dick and accept that his company isn't worth what it was a year ago and won't be unless it can come up with some major new revenue stream.
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 18:38
|
|
|
nvidia is finally making this mainstream, probably the rtx maxine sdk? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XA-tQpQqD7U at least i don't have to feel bad about being a firefox user, since i'm a 1070 owner anyway 
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 18:40
|
|
|
kliras posted:nvidia is finally making this mainstream, probably the rtx maxine sdk?  
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 18:47
|
|
|
$799* *not actually $799 anywhere.
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 18:49
|
|
|
njsykora posted:Also they announced the laptop versions of the whole 40 series stack down to the 4050. Looks like the usual laptop standard of dropping the performance down a level but keeping the same name, so a laptop 4070 is roughly a desktop 4060. 4070 having more cuda cores but clocked lower is interesting. If they can really run it at 35watts that might be a portability beast.
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 19:43
|
|
|
kliras posted:nvidia is finally making this mainstream, probably the rtx maxine sdk? That's neat but what kind of dogshit bitrate were they upscaling from? it's 1080p but the kill feed on the top right looks smeary as hell.
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 19:48
|
|
|
Inept posted:It seems like they're still acting as though cryptomining will carry demand, or that GPU demand is somehow inelastic, even in the face of consoles that cost half as much as the 4070 Ti. Cryptomining on GPUs is completely dead last I checked though? I don’t think it even beats the cost of electricity now.
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 20:00
|
|
|
Yes it's virtually all but dead now, that's pretty much their point - nvidia has their heads in the sand about it. They think it's still a thing and have priced their gpus as such
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 20:01
|
|
|
also happening https://twitter.com/tomwarren/status/1610315813742952449 rip the shield
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 20:01
|
|
|
I’m hoping enough people go for the 4070ti than 3080 prices drop another 100 bucks
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 20:16
|
|
|
kliras posted:also happening I hate them, love the shield though
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 20:24
|
|
|
I love my shield but never used it for gaming. Maybe they are introducing a new shield?
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 20:31
|
|
|
GruntyThrst posted:I’m hoping enough people go for the 4070ti than 3080 prices drop another 100 bucks Does that sound realistic? That price tag made me go back to browsing ebay.
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 20:33
|
|
|
GruntyThrst posted:I’m hoping enough people go for the 4070ti than 3080 prices drop another 100 bucks Used 3090s are still hovering around +850$ and i dont think its gonna get lower anytime soon, so if i were to set my expectations around that the 4070ti still feels better. Not good in anyway, but a brand new 4070ti looks like the best option? ughhhh fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Jan 3, 2023 |
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 20:38
|
|
|
Baba Oh Really posted:I love my shield but never used it for gaming. Maybe they are introducing a new shield? No my friend they are killing the shield and killing Gamestream which fucks over a lot of other people as collateral damage. All so they could rent out the GPUs that aren’t selling.
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 20:48
|
|
|
ughhhh posted:Used 3090s are still hovering around +850$ and i dont think its gonna get lower anytime soon, so if i were to set my expectations around that the 4070ti still feels better. Not good in anyway, but a brand new 4070ti looks like the best option? Still waiting on what Asus and Noctua cook up for their next card, but yeah agreed on all counts. It loving sucks.
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 21:08
|
|
|
ughhhh posted:Used 3090s are still hovering around +850$ and i dont think its gonna get lower anytime soon, so if i were to set my expectations around that the 4070ti still feels better. Not good in anyway, but a brand new 4070ti looks like the best option? 3090s are expensive, but a 3080 is ~$500 on ebay and should be in the same performance ballpark as a 4070 Ti.
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 21:28
|
|
|
4070 Ti is roughly 3090/3090 Ti performance from what we know, so a reasonable bit better than 3080 performance. certainly better value than the 3090/3090 Ti but not the 3080
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 22:26
|
|
|
lih posted:4070 Ti is roughly 3090/3090 Ti performance from what we know, so a reasonable bit better than 3080 performance. certainly better value than the 3090/3090 Ti but not the 3080 No no, the 4070 is THREE TIMES FASTER 
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 23:12
|
|
|
lol where's the tiny text to say "*with frame generation" etc. they did announce that dlss 3 is getting updated to support not garbling ui elements
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 23:30
|
|
|
lol the 4000 series is really shaping up to be a huge bore. gently caress them prices.
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 23:32
|
|
|
K8.0 posted:3090s are expensive, but a 3080 is ~$500 on ebay and should be in the same performance ballpark as a 4070 Ti. Most 3080s are in the $600ish range now, or get there within a day of bidding. For a card that’s supposed to be MRSP $700 and two years old , feels kinda bad
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 23:33
|
|
|
mobby_6kl posted:No no, the 4070 is THREE TIMES FASTER Nvidia saw AMD's claims about the 7900XTX and thought hey we can lie too! njsykora fucked around with this message at 23:55 on Jan 3, 2023 |
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 23:34
|
|
|
GruntyThrst posted:Most 3080s are in the $600ish range now, or get there within a day of bidding. For a card that’s supposed to be MRSP $700 and two years old , feels kinda bad Most important of all, USED, not new. All the new ones have apparently been gobbled up or just being scalped to high heaven.
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 23:36
|
|
|
njsykora posted:Nvidia saw AMD's claims about the 7900XTX and thought hey we lie too! https://twitter.com/GamersNexus/status/1610391620679081984
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 23:37
|
|
|
GruntyThrst posted:Most 3080s are in the $600ish range now, or get there within a day of bidding. For a card that’s supposed to be MRSP $700 and two years old , feels kinda bad If you search 3080 -Ti and check "sold", you'll find plenty of them are selling for $500.
|
|
#
?
Jan 3, 2023 23:52
|
|
|
It's almost like our economic system regularly results in recurring crises of overproduction
|
|
#
?
Jan 4, 2023 00:04
|
|
|
gradenko_2000 posted:It's almost like our economic system regularly results in recurring crises of overproduction https://twitter.com/nntaleb/status/1436776641536090117
|
|
#
?
Jan 4, 2023 00:09
|
|
|
K8.0 posted:If you search 3080 -Ti and check "sold", you'll find plenty of them are selling for $500. That sounds great for those who got them at 500$ but doesn't mean much if I can't actually find one atm and can't babysit a bid. mobby_6kl posted:No no, the 4070 is THREE TIMES FASTER I know it was really stupid on Nvidia's part to release these slides, but I am impressed by what I have seen of frame generation and feel like it would give the GPUs with that tech some longevity. ughhhh fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Jan 4, 2023 |
|
#
?
Jan 4, 2023 00:12
|
|
|
kliras posted:also happening Ok now this is interesting
|
|
#
?
Jan 4, 2023 00:17
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 5, 2024 18:04 |
|
|
Paying £18 a month to rent a 4080 isn't that interesting.
|
|
#
?
Jan 4, 2023 00:21
|
|