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Alchenar posted:Oh Medvedev absolutely wasn't a Western-style reformer, but he clearly wanted a stable and peaceful relationship with the West and seemed to be willing to liberalise Russia (at least as far as could be done without threatening everyone's money funnels). Something like Medvedev's Presidency is probably the best possible low-probability outcome we could hope from a Putin successor. I liken him to being the Russian Hu Jintao since my crowd is more China-savvy.
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Lum_ posted:Yeah, I wasn't nominating him for Last Best Hope For Peace or anything. He's definitely a Russian nationalist although his views have moderated some -- in Russia and specifically Navalny's case it literally means moderating from "outright racist" to "well-spoken nationalist". Is it just me or the poor video quality, but it almost looks like the audience was digitally inserted. Or the whole thing was put through a Zoom filter or something. Side note, I've noticed this more and more lately. So I assume it has something to do with the resolution tricking my eyes, yet I keep seeing it places. For me, it is firmly in the uncanny valley... I see something that flags it as wrong.
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ASAPI posted:Is it just me or the poor video quality, but it almost looks like the audience was digitally inserted. Or the whole thing was put through a Zoom filter or something. It's mainly the compression artifacting on the video. The studio lighting is pretty weird too, very bright and flat across the whole studio and very flat lighting on the old dude in the red suit making him look like a 2d projection superimposed on the video.
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kemikalkadet posted:It's mainly the compression artifacting on the video. The studio lighting is pretty weird too, very bright and flat across the whole studio and very flat lighting on the old dude in the red suit making him look like a 2d projection superimposed on the video. That makes more sense. I've been noticing it more and more, but couldn't put my finger on what exactly I was noticing.
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All Russian TV just happens to look like haunted Willy Wonka. It's a phenomena going back to Soviet times.
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https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1610296498155028480?t=8EyS0WXZHL7d01oV7Ol7Kg&s=19 This reminds me of the Navy individual augmentees program writ large during the surge years
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1610296498155028480?t=8EyS0WXZHL7d01oV7Ol7Kg&s=19 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9db8CDV3n70
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Two things from yesterday: -Ukrainian missile strike took out a large Russian barracks. -learned that India is buying all the oil they can from Russia and helping keep their economy viable.
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Alchenar posted:Now Putin is obviously not Gorbachev Not even Gorbachev was initially Gorbachev though. https://mobile.twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1566082893973274629 The tl,dr of the long and meandering Galeev tweetfest is that Gorba was originally a hardline statist in the vein of his mentor Andropov, but had to change course because oil prices fell so much that the Soviet Union didn't have enough foreign currency to modernize its industries. KGB economy-knowers probably sold him on some Deng Xiaoping-style reforms, but they quickly spiraled out of control. https://mobile.twitter.com/kamilkazani/status/1566107212182953985 In this regard the price cap on oil is probably the best tool to declaw the bear. 
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1610296498155028480?t=8EyS0WXZHL7d01oV7Ol7Kg&s=19 Russian forced reclass happen much more efficiently than decadent western military.
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not caring here posted:Russian forced reclass happen much more efficiently than decadent western military. In Battlefield 3 and 4 you just switch to the winning team
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Nick Soapdish posted:https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1610296498155028480?t=8EyS0WXZHL7d01oV7Ol7Kg&s=19 What, you're saying that there was a problem with sending, say, highly trained naval aviators to work as truck convoy commanders in the desert?
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Two things from yesterday: India is looking out for itself and probably getting a great discount while doing so, russia isn't getting as much for the oil as they would like from any buyer.
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Stultus Maximus posted:What, you're saying that there was a problem with sending, say, highly trained naval aviators to work as truck convoy commanders in the desert? I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you're exaggerating.
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slurm posted:Is Russian society actually particularly hosed up or should I as an American ask myself some questions about my own society based on how insane and bloodthirsty Russia is looking right now? I remember reading/hearing somewhere that the really insane Russian TV talk shows sort of exist to make the Kremlin look somewhat moderate and rational, though I have no idea how true that really is. It does explain some of the lunacy we see on those shows though.
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I'm sure they're not truly representative of Russian society, but a decade and a half of Russian dashcam footage certainly paints an, shall I say, interesting picture of how things work there.
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if only they had daschams in government
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Alan Smithee posted:if only they had daschams in government Or hotel windows.
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Jasper Tin Neck posted:The tl,dr of the long and meandering Galeev tweetfest is that Gorba was originally a hardline statist in the vein of his mentor Andropov, but had to change course because oil prices fell so much that the Soviet Union didn't have enough foreign currency to modernize its industries. Galeev isn't a good source on Russian history at all. Gorbachev had MANY faults but describing him as an Andropov-style hardliner is nuts. Gorbachev was a Leninist true believer in the Bukharin vein - state command of the economy with enough private enterprise to keep people productive, more democracy within a one-party Communist-led state, and full autonomy for non-Russian nationalities. (It didn't work for Lenin either and Lenin's legacy would have been much less successful had he lived much past 1924.) None of Gorbachev's ideas really worked out very well - freeing the economy merely turned it over to speculators and mobsters, introducing democracy into the government created a strong opposition that was far more radical than Gorbechev ever was, and the non-Russians mostly wanted nothing less than full independence. However he was, by all evidence, a genuinely decent person (which meant he didn't have the willingness to suppress opposition violently which the Stalinists in his government demanded) who ended the Cold War rationally when it could have easily gone MUCH worse.
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You should say that on twitter so people can take you seriously
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I restrict my twitter to shitposts, memes, and the occasional laughing at Russian talk shows.
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Anyway for more on Gorbachev this is definitely the recommended work https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09HKL3NC3 quote:Collapse: The Fall of the Soviet Union
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Lum_ posted:Galeev isn't a good source on Russian history at all. Gorbachev had MANY faults but describing him as an Andropov-style hardliner is nuts. yah galeev is kind of, idk, eurasia history fishmech on twitter. wikipedia articles distilled into twitter threads. kind of a running joke among all the actual academia accounts. go read a zubok collapse if you want a better sum of gorbyfollies (or at least the podcast version if you dont wanna read the whole book, https://www.mixcloud.com/seansrussiablog/the-collapse-of-the-soviet-union/ or https://newbooksnetwork.com/vladislav-m-zubok-collapse-the-fall-of-the-soviet-union-yale-up-2021)
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Lum_ posted:Galeev isn't a good source on Russian history at all. Gorbachev had MANY faults but describing him as an Andropov-style hardliner is nuts. galeev takes a conclusion and then works the story back from whatever point he is trying to make. it would be really bizarre if it wasn't so transparently pushing a specific point
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Lum_ posted:Galeev isn't a good source on FTFY
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Lum_ posted:Galeev isn't a good source on Russian history at all. Gorbachev had MANY faults but describing him as an Andropov-style hardliner is nuts. Duly noted. Still, the point stands that what happens in Russia from here might have less to do with what kind of program Russian leaders want to push and more with what the Kremlin has the ability to push. Reducing European energy dependency on Russia works to that end, regardless of who is in power.
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Lum_ posted:Galeev isn't a good source This guy has a stable of half-trained interns who compile his posts, and on his main account, all actual subject matter experts are preemptively blocked, so they can't debunk his BS.
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psydude posted:I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you're exaggerating.
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Stultus Maximus posted:What, you're saying that there was a problem with sending, say, highly trained naval aviators to work as truck convoy commanders in the desert? Has Russia begun sending navy crews as infantry into Ukraine? Guessing that would be a way to get a few thousand guys, and if they were sending missile technicians wouldn’t be out of character.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Has Russia begun sending navy crews as infantry into Ukraine? Guessing that would be a way to get a few thousand guys, and if they were sending missile technicians wouldn’t be out of character. Russia has forces designated as Naval Infantry, they're something like the US Marines, but also not. They're theoretically trained in conventional warfare, and have a long history of being used as such. Using those guys in Ukraine wouldn't be much of a stretch. Using engine techs off the Kunetsov is a different story, of course.
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Hyrax Attack! posted:Has Russia begun sending navy crews as infantry into Ukraine? Guessing that would be a way to get a few thousand guys, and if they were sending missile technicians wouldn’t be out of character. They have reclassed some Navy as Infantry, I know during the Melitopol days they found Weatherman forced into tank commander roles
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A.o.D. posted:Russia has forces designated as Naval Infantry, they're something like the US Marines, but also not. They're theoretically trained in conventional warfare, and have a long history of being used as such. Using those guys in Ukraine wouldn't be much of a stretch. Using engine techs off the Kunetsov is a different story, of course. I’m sure I’ve seen reports of their naval infantry in Ukraine pretty much the whole time?
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A.o.D. posted:Russia has forces designated as Naval Infantry, they're something like the US Marines, but also not. They're theoretically trained in conventional warfare, and have a long history of being used as such. Using those guys in Ukraine wouldn't be much of a stretch. Using engine techs off the Kunetsov is a different story, of course. I wouldn't be too surprised to find they'd pulled all the Kuznetsov's firefighters and DC people. It might explain a few things.
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As much as I would like to clown on Russia for shoving sailors and airmen to the front lines in Ukraine, well, we kinda did the same thing. lt's how I ended up touring the hindu kush. But at least I wasn't doing a straight up infantry job.
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Jimmy Smuts posted:As much as I would like to clown on Russia for shoving sailors and airmen to the front lines in Ukraine, well, we kinda did the same thing. lt's how I ended up touring the hindu kush. But at least I wasn't doing a straight up infantry job. Around the time of And last year, the guys operating the counter-UAS systems in a combat zone were national guard mortarmen and chemical corps. This isn't a dig, they were pretty good, just an example of deciding humans are humans and they'll do what you need them to. mlmp08 fucked around with this message at 04:42 on Jan 4, 2023 |
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Icon Of Sin posted:Chemical corps is forever doomed to do literally anything but their primary purpose, and the world is a better place for that fact. If ChemCorps ever has to do their actual jobs, sign me the gently caress up for the next shotgun mouthwash because gently caress living in that world. My year in Korea taught me a lot of things (mostly about aggressively borderline-functional alcoholism) and one of them was you don't want to live through a no poo poo chem/bio exchange.
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