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Good Idea: Playing Souls games on your platform of choice Bad Idea: Bringing up Souls games on the Something Awful forums
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Jan 4, 2023 21:19
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Cowcaster posted:how am i the butthurt one here stux is agreeing with you
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Jan 4, 2023 21:20
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Cowcaster posted:how am i the butthurt one here HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:stux is agreeing with you
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Jan 4, 2023 21:21
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:stux is agreeing with you good, i like stux
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Jan 4, 2023 21:21
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HerpicleOmnicron5 posted:just to add, Armored Core (1, at least) also has an inverse of dragonrot where the more you game over the easier the game becomes, I personally prefer Sekiro to the Souls games because the build diversity without free respecs just makes it a bit grindy to me and it's unclear when you need that grind or when you just need to "git gud", but Armored Core actually does all of these things perfectly from the very first entry Somewhat. It wasn't a very long game either, which is why most people who play AC1 call playthroughs "runs" and such. That's a fair criticism of the souls games though, it really did take until Elden Ring for them to add a respec mechanic and I feel like they only did it because the game is so goddamn long and the caps on item scaling are way up there.
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Jan 4, 2023 21:21
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AfricanBootyShine posted:I was hoping posters getting ultra-butthurt when their favourite game faces any sort of criticism would be something we'd leave in 2022, but lol my criticism: i am not good enough at the game and thaht is a flaw with the game, for some reason.
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Jan 4, 2023 21:21
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i liked Sekiro but it frustrated me to the point of intense irritation so I just shoved on a literal game trainer and 1 shot everything, i completely cheated myself out of "the experience" by doing this but i'd rather do it that way than give up halfway through and never look at it again
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Jan 4, 2023 21:21
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ds2 has respecs
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Jan 4, 2023 21:21
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So we got dark souls 2, marauders, tired git gud posts, what’s next for the new steam thread speedrun
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Jan 4, 2023 21:21
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protip: you can use whatever cheatengine trainer or mods you want on a pc and you don't need anyone else's approval
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Jan 4, 2023 21:21
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:So we got dark souls 2, marauders, tired git gud posts, what’s next for the new steam thread speedrun Cuphead is racist
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Jan 4, 2023 21:22
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NoEyedSquareGuy posted:Cuphead is racist Go on
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Jan 4, 2023 21:23
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was that a real thing??
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Jan 4, 2023 21:23
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:So we got dark souls 2, marauders, tired git gud posts, what’s next for the new steam thread speedrun Hollow Knight is good & also a Souls game, just like Sekiro.
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Jan 4, 2023 21:24
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Gay Rat Wedding posted:So we got dark souls 2, marauders, tired git gud posts, what’s next for the new steam thread speedrun Cruelty Squad Astalon Gedonia Dread Delusion My Time at Sandrock Ctrl-Alt-Ego Courier of the Crypts Super Sami Roll Overboard! FAR: Lone Sails (Switch) Transiruby (Switch) Picross S: Sega Genesis (Switch) AfricanBootyShine posted:was that a real thing?? The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Jan 4, 2023 |
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Jan 4, 2023 21:24
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The 7th Guest posted:cowcaster is right Sekiro doesnt have stamina and, thus, is not a Souls game simple as
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Jan 4, 2023 21:25
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Jan 4, 2023 21:25
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the quake 3 rail hitbox should be 50m wide so i can hit people more consistently. its failure to do so is a serious game design fail.
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Jan 4, 2023 21:25
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oh i think i see the confusion here, me saying sekiro doesn't have stat allotments and equipment and character customization wasn't supposed to be an implied "get good" that was me saying sekiro doesn't have stat allotments and equipment and character customization because it's not supposed to be a souls game
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Jan 4, 2023 21:26
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AfricanBootyShine posted:was that a real thing?? https://www.polygon.com/22937541/the-cuphead-show-interview-racism-animation-history https://kotaku.com/its-impossible-to-separate-cuphead-from-the-era-that-in-1820365021 https://unwinnable.com/2017/11/10/cuphead-and-the-racist-spectre-of-fleischer-animation/ https://www.ggrecon.com/articles/the-cuphead-show-producer-discussess-racist-animation/ https://www.gazettextra.com/blogs/s...9c22d04049.html https://netflixjunkie.com/netflixs-...ly-problematic/ Most insufferable debate in gaming imo
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Jan 4, 2023 21:27
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Cowcaster posted:oh i think i see the confusion here, me saying sekiro doesn't have stat allotments and equipment and character customization wasn't supposed to be an implied "get good" that was me saying sekiro doesn't have stat allotments and equipment and character customization because it's not supposed to because it's not supposed to be a souls game Cool, and therefore doesn't justify it's difficulty is what I'm saying.
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Jan 4, 2023 21:28
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the best debates in gaming are is cuphead racist, should dark souls have an easy mode, is titty armor sexist, and does playing counter strike make you complicit in war crimes
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Jan 4, 2023 21:29
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Feels Villeneuve posted:the best debates in gaming are is cuphead racist, should dark souls have an easy mode, is titty armor sexist, and does playing counter strike make you complicit in war crimes I misread that middle one as "is my armor sexist?" and I thought you had slipped in the funniest bit before I re-read this
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Jan 4, 2023 21:30
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Specifically, the argument goes that Cuphead is problematic because it isn't racist, while using an art style inspired by things that were racist. It always struck me as odd because it's like... what were they supposed to do? It's just a platformer, there isn't really room for a nuanced exploration of a thorny topic like that. Really, it's just people wanting to say "HEY DID YOU KNOW OLD CARTOONS ARE SUPER RACIST" and using Cuphead as an excuse to do so.
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Jan 4, 2023 21:31
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Feels Villeneuve posted:the best debates in gaming are is cuphead racist, should dark souls have an easy mode, is titty armor sexist, and does playing counter strike make you complicit in war crimes My personal favorite was the one that came from this very board: "Everyone who completed the main quest in this WoW expansion is a neo-nazi and should have their accounts banned for being neo-nazis."
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Jan 4, 2023 21:32
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Cool, and therefore doesn't justify it's difficulty is what I'm saying. The 7th Guest fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Jan 4, 2023 |
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Jan 4, 2023 21:34
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where are all the thinkpieces about hypnospace outlaw dealing with its racist inspirations because stormfront was a website
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Jan 4, 2023 21:34
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Feels Villeneuve posted:the best debates in gaming are is cuphead racist, should dark souls have an easy mode, is titty armor sexist, and does playing counter strike make you complicit in war crimes Silent Hill 2 is entirely about male circumcision
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Jan 4, 2023 21:37
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:Silent Hill 2 is entirely about male circumcision 
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Jan 4, 2023 21:38
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:Silent Hill 2 is entirely about male circumcision that's not a debate.
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Jan 4, 2023 21:40
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TheDiceMustRoll posted:Cool, and therefore doesn't justify it's difficulty is what I'm saying. kind of like picking up what i think is a devil may cry and finding out it's a zelda, this is an entirely different argument than the one i expected. i think it's justified, myself.
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Jan 4, 2023 21:41
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The 7th Guest posted:I think it probably does justify its difficulty since a lot of people love it and have beaten it (including our very own VideoGames), it is highly acclaimed and was second place in SA's GOTY vote of 2019. idk what justifying even means in this context. the game expects you to meet it at its level. there are plenty of challenging games out there like that. if i think of games that don't justify their difficulty, i'd say that, like, if Lil Gator Game suddenly had a 90 minute endurance section with spikes/lava everywhere where you start over on death, that would not be very justified in what is otherwise a very chill and family-friendly game. sekiro is a challenging game that is about honing and perfecting a skill and then executing it. what is out of place about the difficulty? it doesnt justify it becuasue that poster has tied themself into a little knot that the only way difficulty is fair is if there are ways to circumvent it, and as previous from soft games had that, anything that deviates is therefor, illegitimatelyt and unfairly diffcult. its a particularly advanced form of cope.
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Jan 4, 2023 21:42
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I am so sorry to provoke soulslike arguments, I did not intend to.  Instead I'll report: I'm having a good time with Dark Souls 2! I'm also having a good time reading up this interview on DS2's troubled development and it's fascinating. I did not know it wasn't a) directed by the main dude in charge of the series, b) had to swap directors halfway through so they had to shuffle a lot, and c) originally seemed to be much more comedic than you'd think a Dark Souls game would be? Very strange, but it makes the Giants Forest area more sensible, with how... brightly green it is, almost fantasy stereotype with your little tin men zombies and trolls and so on. I'm almost reminded of Illbleed for some reason. I mean, I'm still dying and having a ton of fun poking my head around corners - or this. Going here and getting stomped while I learn to fight very large dudes is lots of fun, mostly because it's GORGEOUS.       Shoutout to the bloodstain photobombing me also to how goddamn ugly I am thanks to repeated deaths to these big knights
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Jan 4, 2023 21:43
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this is ironic bcos its actually the most fair game theyve ever made as every single encounter is designed with a single playstyle in mind and you cannot come across any boss or area which is a hard counter to your build as u dont have one. its just also very hard.
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Jan 4, 2023 21:43
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The 7th Guest posted:
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Jan 4, 2023 21:44
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Stux posted:also sekiro does have difficulty modes. you are already playing on easy lol Easy is unlocked when you beat NG
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Jan 4, 2023 21:45
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Stux posted:it doesnt justify it becuasue that poster has tied themself into a little knot that the only way difficulty is fair is if there are ways to circumvent it, and as previous from soft games had that, anything that deviates is therefor, illegitimatelyt and unfairly diffcult. its a particularly advanced form of cope. this but phrased in a nicer less aggressive way
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Jan 4, 2023 21:45
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it's just a lil confusing to me, I don't even go super nerdy for From games, DS2 and Elden Ring are the only two i've ever played all the way to completion. this argument just seems like going on American Ninja Warrior and asking them why they can't add trampolines
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Jan 4, 2023 21:45
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The 7th Guest posted:I think it probably does justify its difficulty since a lot of people love it and have beaten it (including our very own VideoGames), it is highly acclaimed and was second place in SA's GOTY vote of 2019. idk what justifying even means in this context. the game expects you to meet it at its level. there are plenty of challenging games out there like that. if i think of games that don't justify their difficulty, i'd say that, like, if Lil Gator Game suddenly had a 90 minute endurance section with spikes/lava everywhere where you start over on death, that would not be very justified in what is otherwise a very chill and family-friendly game. sekiro is a challenging game that is about honing and perfecting a skill and then executing it. what is out of place about the difficulty? Well, because every other FROM game has ways to mitigate it's difficulty and it's what I like about their games. That was literally my original post man. It's not great seeing FROM put out a game that goes completely against the grain so hard they intentionally chose to not include any of the stuff I like about their games. The fact that a mech sim, a first person dungeon crawler and a third person action RPG can all be known for being very hard, but also being very manageable, and then you have "oh also there's a game that keeps the difficulty of the other things in our catalogue, but doesn't have any of the stuff for getting past that difficulty, a thing we're known for" then I just don't really see the purpose of it. You might as well just let people have an easy mode so they can enjoy it as well, since you're not providing the usual FROM methods to mitigate the difficulty. So I dunno what you want from me, I really like FROM games and the first six hours I've had with Sekiro is basically counter to everything I like about their games, it makes more sense if they just had an easy mode, since they seem more interested in telling a story and having cinematic boss fights.
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Sekiro is a good game, I should play it again.
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