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it's one of those cases where even if you (general, as in anyone) could, you really still shouldn't
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Jerry Pournelle is a great read if you ever actually want to understand how a certain kind of conservative guy thinks. It's like, he's smart enough to recognize that institutions are failing and stuff but way to racist and in his ideology to embrace anything to fix them other than a return to crowned heads.
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Everyone posted:The key word in my original post is "almost." I had a couple of ideas like the Ermey drill sergeant or some Tony Stark style insane weapons systems (which I won't name because I don't want to eat another probation over this) but I also know my talent (or lack thereof) well enough to know that there's no way I could pull this off. Nah, I think I could do it, actually, but it'd have to be hard satire from the opening scene. It's obviously crossing the line too far, which means you gotta make people understand you're absolutely not serious. And it can't be titillating AT ALL. But understand, it has to be dudes and chicks getting raped or it's no bueno. It'd work better if it was a machine that symbolized male oppression. It'd be like the space race or the atom bomb. I'd show the Russians building their rape machine and the U.S. building their rape machine. I'd bounce back and forth between scenes like Rocky IV, playing on nationalist ideals and jingoistic tropes. There would be teary-eyed newscasters as the machine finally launched on its inaugural mission. Broadsheets and propaganda posters on the walls. The lead American scientist, a genius inventor, is a woman who symbolizes the women who enable the patriarchy to continue the systematic oppression. She is willing to build a machine that subjugates women because she's greedy and wants power. She understands the advantage of having the world's first superpower rape machine. However, her co-worker, a pompous young white man whose only idiosyncrasy is that he habitually wears a bow-tie, get's paid 10% more than her credit. In revenge, she reprograms the rape machines to rape everyone, especially white men who wear bow-ties. The president has a button on his Oval Office. The advantage of the rape button is that it is a step down from the nuclear option. And after you hit the rape button and the machine rapes your entire army, navy, and capital city, everyone knows you can do it again at any time. When they're out golfing with friends. At the pope's funeral. In the line at the DMV. No matter where you are or what you're doing the machine rapes you. And of course, through the use of imagery and theme I would infer that the rape machine stands for the intrinsic power systems and unconscious biases that oppress everyone. Anyway. Assault on Ball's Deep is free to everyone for the next 5 days. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0881N2Y6H (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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The Rage of Dragons (The Burning #1) by Evan Winter - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07L2VKFP5/
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VostokProgram posted:
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MartingaleJack posted:Assault on Ball's Deep is free to everyone for the next 5 days. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0881N2Y6H Assault on Ball's Deep is awesome and we should talk about that instead of, um, other things.
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Jan 5, 2023 23:57
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MartingaleJack posted:Assault on Ball's Deep is free to everyone for the next 5 days. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0881N2Y6H Yeah that'd about do it. Good stories all around sir.
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Not many people know this but mein kampf was originally written as a farce, a joke on antisemitism, like a springtime for Hitler situation. Things just got a bit out of control after people didn't get the parody though.
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RDM posted:Not many people know this but mein kampf was originally written as a farce, a joke on antisemitism, like a springtime for Hitler situation. Things just got a bit out of control after people didn't get the parody though. That's a good story prompt, like Life of Brian but with Hitler
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That's Dune
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MartingaleJack posted:That's a good story prompt, like Life of Brian but with Hitler what? absolutely not
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fez_machine posted:what? absolutely not Around 2019 with Trump and everything I would not have been in the least surprised to have seen some kind of Life of Hitler movie/show come out. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised to see poo poo like that hit in 2023.
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VostokProgram posted:please stop
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Most influential fantasy novel that isn’t by Tolkien, go!
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StrixNebulosa posted:Most influential fantasy novel that isn’t by Tolkien, go! Journey to the West
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StrixNebulosa posted:Most influential fantasy novel that isn’t by Tolkien, go! Rothfuss a close second though. Grrm disqualified for the final season of got.
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StrixNebulosa posted:Most influential fantasy novel that isn’t by Tolkien, go! The Once and Future King
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StrixNebulosa posted:Most influential fantasy novel that isn’t by Tolkien, go! A Pilgrim's Progress or Gulliver's Travels
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I'm three books in to the Poor Man's Fight series by Elliott Kay, and that means I'm back once again to quickly review a goon recommended palette cleanser style of mil-SF series that may or may not be KU (it is) The first book I think is definitely a worthy read for the fans of mil-SF thriller kind of dad fiction. The last third/half of the book is one long action scene that reminded me most of Die Hard but on a spaceship. Book 2 managed decent action and kept my interest too, a fine enough follow-up to the first, but I felt was clearly more framed towards moving the series forward so I kinda raced through it, and just started book 3, so that's all I got for now. if nothing else, book 1, the one actually named Poor Man's Fight is a fun read if you want to see a guy go through boot camp and eventually kill a loving LOT of Bad Guys. I will hold off on recommending the rest of the series for now, pending reading it. See you next time 
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StrixNebulosa posted:Most influential fantasy novel that isn’t by Tolkien, go! D...racula? Or maybe Frankenstein? Except Frankenstein is science fiction, notionally...
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AARD VARKMAN posted:I'm three books in to the Poor Man's Fight series by Elliott Kay, and that means I'm back to once again to quickly review a goon recommended palette cleanser style of mil-SF series that may or may not be KU (it is) So don't feel obligated to keep reading after book 3.
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I mean it's hard to beat The Wonderful Wizard of Oz by L Frank Baum. It basically started the portal fantasy genre in 1900. There might be earlier examples, but probably none as influential. Loved the art by W.W. Denslow too.
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MartingaleJack posted:I mean it's hard to beat The Wonderful Wizard of Oz by L Frank Baum. It basically started the portal fantasy genre in 1900. There might be earlier examples, but probably none as influential. Loved the art by W.W. Denslow too. Feel like if you are doing portal fantasy you got to give it to Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.
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hmm I'd say The Wonderful Wizard of Oz or Alice in Wonderland, both for the exact same reasons. They each serve as a sort of bridge between more traditional fairytales or fables of the past and what would eventually become the modern fantasy novel. They also came out pretty close to one another (historically speaking), so it's hard to tease out one or the other There's also a sort of "artificial" influence in terms of works that change the way publishers greenlight books or authors copy successes, and by that definition it's hard not to bring up Eye of the World or Game of Thrones, even though they're both modern.
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If they ever did a remake they could just have the truck come flying it off the barn to hit her and she wakes up in oz and accidently kills the other witch somehow.
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Hobnob posted:The Once and Future King
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Howard's Conan stories were, I think, the first time someone tried to construct a secondary world with its own internal logic--as opposed to the whimsical "play" worlds of Carroll, Barrie, etc. That's pretty fundamental to everything that came after. But I guess those aren't novels so they don't qualify anyway 
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StrixNebulosa posted:Most influential fantasy novel that isn’t by Tolkien, go! Le Morte d'Arthur or the Grimm Collection.
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fez_machine posted:they count as video games but also famously Custer's Revenge It's still going, or at least is still used as a 'darkness signifier' Jonathan Maberry is currently writing a fantasy meets Lovecraft series and there are many off screenish depictions of rapes and child murders as some poorly plotted evil soldiers simultaneously conquer a whole continent overnight
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:If they ever did a remake they could just have the truck come flying it off the barn to hit her and she wakes up in oz and accidently kills the other witch somehow. Done so many times in so many remakes. I quite liked the one by - Tarsem Singh? - where Ozma was trans and extremely pissed off because for some stupid reason in spite of literal magic and human experimentation the one single absolute no-no is wanting your boy body back. Sailor Viy posted:Howard's Conan stories were, I think, the first time someone tried to construct a secondary world with its own internal logic--as opposed to the whimsical "play" worlds of Carroll, Barrie, etc. That's pretty fundamental to everything that came after. Eddison got there first, anyway. And arguably the Duchess of Newcastle long before, though she's probably more proto-isekai than proto-secondary world..
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Dunsany's Gods of Pegana also.
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WarpDogs posted:hmm I'd say The Wonderful Wizard of Oz or Alice in Wonderland, both for the exact same reasons. They each serve as a sort of bridge between more traditional fairytales or fables of the past and what would eventually become the modern fantasy novel. They also came out pretty close to one another (historically speaking), so it's hard to tease out one or the other This erasure of A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court is disgraceful. Edit: Beaten, but it still counts as being among the first "portal" fantasies. Everyone fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Jan 6, 2023 |
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Everyone posted:This erasure of A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur's Court is disgraceful. Some of E Nesbit too, I should think.
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https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1610754220835147782 Gonna need to request a correction to the thread title
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branedotorg posted:It's still going, or at least is still used as a 'darkness signifier' Jonathan Maberry is currently writing a fantasy meets Lovecraft series and there are many off screenish depictions of rapes and child murders as some poorly plotted evil soldiers simultaneously conquer a whole continent overnight i meant by protagonists but holy poo poo stop talking about it
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/RollingStone/status/1610754220835147782 In the good old days this kind of drama would be safely contained to a single coffee shop or bar and the wider world would never hear anything of it.
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