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PoptartsNinja posted:Xotl, I know your ability to influence the minis line is probably pretty limited; but if CGL ever gets worried the UrbanMech meme is wearing thin you could always recommend a box of Cats (Timberwolf D, Mad Cat Mk. II, Mad Cat Mk. III, Savage Wolf, and Alpha Wolf all in the same star box). I want to run a whole star of Mad Cats, points be damned 
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I would buy multiple Box o' Bugs, I love those annoying little guys.
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FishFood posted:I would buy multiple Box o' Bugs, I love those annoying little guys. Wasp, Hornet, Locust, Flea? What other ones are there that count?
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BugMechs are the original 20-tonners: Wasp, Stinger, Locust. Anything else is BugMech-adjacent
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PoptartsNinja posted:Xotl, I know your ability to influence the minis line is probably pretty limited; but if CGL ever gets worried the UrbanMech meme is wearing thin you could always recommend a box of Cats (Timberwolf D, Mad Cat Mk. II, Mad Cat Mk. III, Savage Wolf, and Alpha Wolf all in the same star box). I would do terrible things to get a Mad Cat mk 2 in plastic. The IWM version is my favorite mech I own. While the sculpt is good, it still struggles just by being metal. In fact I dropped it recently and the legs did not hold up well to the fall. It needs a lot of TLC to be usable again. Also if we get a plastic one I hope it takes more influence from that one than the MWO model.
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PoptartsNinja posted:Xotl, I know your ability to influence the minis line is probably pretty limited; but if CGL ever gets worried the UrbanMech meme is wearing thin you could always recommend a box of Cats (Timberwolf D, Mad Cat Mk. II, Mad Cat Mk. III, Savage Wolf, and Alpha Wolf all in the same star box). Yeah, unfortunately I don't have much input into production stuff: I mostly just do rules. But I suspect they have a mountain of box sets on the drawing board that they'd like to do and believe would sell but the choke points are dev time and production (how many different boxes the market can bear and whatnot). The Mad Cat is definitely one of the all-time iconic BT mechs though, so I wouldn't be surprised to see alternate sculpts coming down the road and an appearance in multiple boxes.
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Defiance Industries posted:BugMechs are the original 20-tonners: Wasp, Stinger, Locust. Don’t the Canopians make all of them? So the 4th mech of the lance should have cats ears and a tail.
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Everyone makes them, that's the entire point. Making it specific to a faction would be missing the point, just as much as the fans have missed the point that those women who get bionic implants to appeal to furries are being pressured into it.
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Defiance Industries posted:Everyone makes them, that's the entire point. So what's the 4th mech everyone makes? Dunno if Urbi's count but they already have a company of them you can buy instead. (I feel like being forced to make something the
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There is a bugmech alignment chart and the cicada and grasshopper are on the evil axis. So browsing game aids I noticed there's contact ping standees for unrevealed mechs. Since the 90's I just played as you put your guys on the table and moved them around. Are there rules for not revealing your dudes until they're in LOS; and where would I find those? As part of campaign play as I build out the spreadsheet and generate her reserves I've decided there's a fifth ready reserve mech in the implausibly ample store's of my Daughter's merc lance dropship in case of combat losses. What should I throw in there to compliment Griffin, Blackjack, Locust, Commando? My thoughts are to keep her hungry with some squad goals (but make the first several missions close to walk overs as she learns the ins and outs), so not an Atlas obv.
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Wraith is a bug mech because it looks like a beetle
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Owlbear Camus posted:So browsing game aids I noticed there's contact ping standees for unrevealed mechs. Since the 90's I just played as you put your guys on the table and moved them around. Are there rules for not revealing your dudes until they're in LOS; and where would I find those? Tactical Operations has rules for Concealing Information and playing with Double-Blind rules. There are also scenarios where one side has hidden units. They could be used for those kinds of games. Those rules seem a bit complex but I could also see how playing a normal game of BT but with just all mechs being radar blips until they’re in LOS of the other player could be a interesting twist on the normal gameplay.
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PoptartsNinja posted:While I'm waiting for the gloss coat on my Marik Militia to dry so I can do final weathering, I got a good start on my I look forward to this finished Nova cat as a Spirit Cat. I may be tempted to buy another Clan Fire STar Box just for an extra Nova Cat to paint one more white like this. Do you recommend using a white or grey primer when painting white minis or do you think a black primer is still alright? Also, if you need good images of clix pieces, this is the best source you can use. Every single piece has a picture here by faction. http://warrenborn.com/UnitSection.html Anyways, I finished The Damocles Sanction, my final spoiler thoughts. ~ I struggle to understand why people are supposed to have a problem with Julian. The only two legitimate criticisms of him I can find are A) He's trying to hard to lead from the front and that's risky, and B) He killed Toranaga without a trial in the spur of the moment. But A is what everyone loves about Erik, so I don't get why Julian has less support in the public than Erik when he's done the same thing and more successfully (Up to that point). His advisors can certainly be frustrated with A, but not the general public. ~ I get that Erik is really popular for leading Julian's campaigns successfully, he's essentially the face of the AFFS, but why isn't he more tarnished from his time as Caleb's Champion, a member of the Old Regime that nearly killed the Suns? I feel he gets a pass there. As one of the sole surviving AFFS high command from Caleb's time, he should get blamed for at least some of those mistakes. ~ Why are so many of Erik's advisors (Tuorto, Elise) determined to make Julian look bad in order to elevate Erik more? Tuorto interprets everything in the worse possible light about what Julian might be doing. ~ Why was Gavin Marik-Davion in a cell and then not? Did Julian capture him? How'd he escape? I know it's a mystery as to what Gavin really wants (Does he want Julian to stay in power? He seems to be a Davion fanboy, but he seems to enjoy that Erik is more popular than Julian). It's strange and I wish we had a scene going into more of his motivations. His Dark Age motivations seemed to be pro-Julian. ~ I do wish the Combine had won at least one battle in-novel, so that there was more tension on whether Erik would succeed liberating the Tongue. Good book, besides the typos. Crazy Joe Wilson fucked around with this message at 18:03 on Jan 7, 2023 |
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Defiance Industries posted:BugMechs are the original 20-tonners: Wasp, Stinger, Locust. The Assassin is the secret 4th Bug 'Mech, and the first official "Bug 'Mech Killer" (it's also the "Bug 'Mech Killer" that's the worst at its job). Crazy Joe Wilson posted:Do you recommend using a white or grey primer when painting white minis or do you think a black primer is still alright? I prime everything white (or with a zenithal highlight) regardless of color; I prefer the vibrancy it lends to whatever colors I'm painting and not needing to paint 50 layers to build up over black. For the Nova Cat, and because I absolutely hate using actual white for anything except as a very rare highlight, I did a basecoat of a very light grey-blue and then a topdown zenithal from my airbrush with Vallejo's White Gray. I picked a different shade from the gray-green I used to prime my ComGuards, just so they'd look a little different standing next to each other. Just for comparison: White Primer vs. Spirit Cats White vs. Com Guards White.  I picked grey-green as the base for the ComGuards because it gives this weird undertone of wrongness to them. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jan 7, 2023 |
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PoptartsNinja posted:The Assassin is the secret 4th Bug 'Mech, and the first official "Bug 'Mech Killer" (it's also the "Bug 'Mech Killer" that's the worst at its job). Speaking of, the Assassin got a new variant in RecGuide 29. It's... not that much better than the normal Assassin at killing Lights. LPPC, MML5, and a one shot SRM2. It does have Stealth Armor and an Angel ECM at least, so it can pull duty as a distruptor even if its ability to actually kill is limited.
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Owlbear Camus posted:As part of campaign play as I build out the spreadsheet and generate her reserves I've decided there's a fifth ready reserve mech in the implausibly ample store's of my Daughter's merc lance dropship in case of combat losses. What should I throw in there to compliment Griffin, Blackjack, Locust, Commando? My thoughts are to keep her hungry with some squad goals (but make the first several missions close to walk overs as she learns the ins and outs), so not an Atlas obv. Valkyrie is a good Mech and makes for a choice of which 4 she fields depending on mission.
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The Assassin's a 'Mech that's awful at its intended role; but as a backline raider / supply depot hunter it's superb. Anytime the OpForce is likely to be a couple of unarmed trucks and an APC or two the Assassin shines and it's just heavily armed enough that a recon lance being called in for back up probably doesn't want to tangle with it. I still think it'd be better off with a Clantech ER Medium Laser but how much more money do you really want to spend on your Assassins anyway? An Assassin that actually gets caught on the battlefield or pulled into a Lance v. Lance fight has a moron for a Mechwarrior and an even bigger moron as a C.O. At the same time, if a command catches an enemy Assassin somewhere (operating with a lance or otherwise) killing it should be a high priority both because it's an easy-ish takedown and it deprives the enemy of a very irritating supply line raider. Owlbear Camus posted:What should I throw in there to compliment Griffin, Blackjack, Locust, Commando? My thoughts are to keep her hungry with some squad goals (but make the first several missions close to walk overs as she learns the ins and outs), so not an Atlas obv. She's got a high-end medium, a low-end medium, and two low-end light 'mechs. I want to recommend another light 'Mech like a Valkyrie or a Javelin, but I think you'll be better served doing this: Play up that her chief tech is "working on something," but don't tell her what right away. If she takes a combat loss you can then reveal a comparable replacement. Not necessarily a Locust for a Locust or a Commando for another Commando; but maybe a small upgrade like the dead Locust gets replaced with a Spider or a dead Commando gets replaced by a Javelin. If she makes it through your tutorial missions without losing anything, you can then reveal a nice low-end trooper medium that she can use when she wants a little more durability. Something tough but not exceptional like the Hermes II, or maybe even a Vindicator. Double-edit: Or something that will make her cackle with glee like a Hunchback. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 20:05 on Jan 7, 2023 |
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Hunchback is a great choice. It’s a smile generator.
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Whom amongst us does not like to shred armor with an autocannon so heavy for the weight class it fucks up the whole mech's profile? One of the packages I ordered to spend a B&N bargain AGOAC box voucher came today with salvage boxes. Marauder IIC, Stone Rhino, Supernova, Urbanmech. One of these things is not like the others. One of these things is not the same. It was the one I picked out on purpose because he's my special little guy.
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I ended up grabbing the Clan Invasion box set on top of the Armored Combat one since it seemed like a good deal for more robots and maps and I'm looking at the 'mech sheets. Just trying to get a feel for how all this works and had a question. Why does the Nova-Prime have so many drat lasers? Seems like you'd be running a high risk of shutting down if you used them all at once. Is it just a case of having the firepower if you need it or extras if an arm pops off?
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TheKingslayer posted:I ended up grabbing the Clan Invasion box set on top of the Armored Combat one since it seemed like a good deal for more robots and maps and I'm looking at the 'mech sheets. Just trying to get a feel for how all this works and had a question. One thing: It gives you wider weapons coverage putting 6 in each arm. With a torso twist you can fire behind you, though there's still a blind spot depending on which arm you bring to bear. And if things get truly desperate you can still alpha strike with it and peice trade, hoping whatever you melted was worth more than the aptly named nova. With some luck it might even dissipate that in the subsequent round and get back in the fight. Owlbear Camus fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Jan 7, 2023 |
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Ahhh ok that makes way more sense. The firing arcs thing didn't even cross my mind at an initial glance.
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TheKingslayer posted:Ahhh ok that makes way more sense. The firing arcs thing didn't even cross my mind at an initial glance. The real neat trick is just to dump everything but the upper actuators and you can flip 'em 180 for full 360 coverage. And they call the rifleman a "bad mech." 
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The Rifleman is a bad 'Mech, it's just bad in fun ways. The Rifleman IIC, on the other hand, is a Friendship Ruiner.
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TheKingslayer posted:Why does the Nova-Prime have so many drat lasers? Seems like you'd be running a high risk of shutting down if you used them all at once. Is it just a case of having the firepower if you need it or extras if an arm pops off?  The other reason.
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It's an omni so if you're a coward you can always drop some of the lasers for heat sink. IF you are a coward.
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 Here's my Legion of Vega after speedpaint and before metallics/canopy details. I based the scheme off of the Wolverine in Combat Manual: Kurita, but I used Runic Gray because I did not want to gently caress around with the white speedpaint. I'm wondering how I should paint the glass; the image in CM Kurita has blue glass, but I don't think it will pop with the blue-gray chassis. I'm thinking a bright green, maybe?
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If you want a jeweled cockpit, green would look the nicest with the Legion of Vega's highlights.
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PoptartsNinja posted:The Rifleman is a bad 'Mech, it's just bad in fun ways. I remember when that tech readout came out, I saw the loadout and thought “oh there’s some cheese”
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More W.I.P. Nova Cats, showing off my plans. Most common (8) are Spirit Cat hand-me-downs in white and gray, followed by units with patchwork repairs (2) that haven't been repainted, then traditional Nova Cat camo (3) with Spirit Cats embelishment, and finally Xi Provisional Bullshit (2) with Spirit Cat embelishment.  Yes, I did base the Mad Dog on the colors of Cobra's Alley Viper. So, different, but still unified. Or so I hope. PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Jan 8, 2023 |
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PoptartsNinja posted:More W.I.P. Nova Cats, showing off my plans. How did you get multiple Nova Cats, did you just buy multiple force packs with them in, or did you get individual mechs as you want, and if so from where?
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Crazy Joe Wilson posted:How did you get multiple Nova Cats, did you just buy multiple force packs with them in, or did you get individual mechs as you want, and if so from where? I got a malformed Warhawk in my preorder, so I needed to order a second box to get a second Warhawk to repair it. Then I got lucky and pulled a third Nova Cat out of a blind box. They've been kinda trickling in over months as I get the urge to paint a certain unit. I wasn't originally going to paint Nova Cats or Wolf in Exile at all but I wound up with so many spares I figured I might as well. At this point, I've got at least two of almost everything (with some rare exceptions) and there are only two 'Mechs I don't think I've painted at least one of(the Baboon and Hellion). I wasn't joking when I said I wound up with at least 8 Timberwolves through various means.  At least my wall of shame is more paint than bare plastic/primer now (but that's not all of the 'Mechs I've painted, either). PoptartsNinja fucked around with this message at 19:17 on Jan 8, 2023 |
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 So I think even in my inept hands this will look kind of bad apples painted up, but word of warning to fellow modders as cool as it looks the anime style LRM swarm launch is brittle as Hell even after secondary curing. I might get some of that "ABS like" resin and give it another go.
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Finished the basecoats on my weirder Nova Cats. Will it blend? We'll see, but I'm happy with them. 
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