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ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



neck pickup on this vintera is getting worse and worse so I'm going to just speed up my eventual goal of putting different electronics in. I found a factory prewired 3-ply guard with 57/62s in it, and that seems to check all the boxes for me on a run of the mill '50s/early 60's wiring schematic for the vintera. I want to switch the tortoise guard out on my am pro anyways so my plan is to pull the 57/62 electronics off the guard, switch them into the vintera 1 ply guard, set all the vintera electronics (including S-1 knob) aside as spares. then just swap the am pro stuff into the 3 ply guard.

I noticed the vintera has a super switch already installed in it, I guess that's part of the 'mod' wiring. I'm not into all of that, my am pro already has a push pull pot. So I think I'll pull the super switch out and keep the new a normal 5 way (2 pole? I guess is the difference). Unless somebody here can tell me a really good reason to keep it in a strat I'm trying to make sound more vintage than my am pro.

Anyways trying to look up diagrams I noticed people saying the 'superswitch' can let you do interesting things with changing series and parallel around.. maybe you need the switch, landgrabber? I have no idea though.

I look at the extra poles then and just get extra confused.

It's also occured to me to pull the V-MODs out of the am pro and put those in the vintera, and put the new 57/62 in the better guitar, but hey wheres the fun in that. Also the VMODs sound great in the am pro so I could open myself up to fixing what aint broke.

edit: boy I really have a talent for sniping top page lately.. totally unintentionally

ethanol fucked around with this message at 17:27 on Jan 8, 2023

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Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer

ethanol posted:

neck pickup on this vintera is getting worse and worse

what does it mean...? do you mean the literal sound has changed, and not for the better? or do you mean that you've soured on it?

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Helianthus Annuus posted:

what does it mean...? do you mean the literal sound has changed, and not for the better? or do you mean that you've soured on it?
I mean it's totally dead when i plug in the guitar about 90% of the time now. I can sort of get it to go in and out by pulling the pickup out and waving it around a bit. I couldn't find any loose wires or shorts and I think the problem is the solder joint at the end of the copper wind, to ground. They didn't wrap the end of the wind around the solder joint on the ground side so I think it's going in and out because it only has the single strand of copper to connect to. I think once it makes a circuit it warms up a bit and stays on. the only other thing I can think of is a short, but I'm not seeing anywhere that can happen.

Also I thought it was cheaper sounding to begin with, but like not terrible. Also the volume pot really sucks on this guitar, it's like totally dead below 5. I think I'd just be better off swapping everything fresh as kinda was my goal anyways.

edit: also there are absolutely no power clips, pops or otherwise sounds when it goes in and out. If it were a short or something I would think I would hear some unpleasant sounds when it makes contact or not

edit2: If I can find my dang multimeter is there some resistance value I can check the pickups against, or even continuity check the two +/- solder joints?

ethanol fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Jan 8, 2023

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

creamcorn posted:

https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1611895768368963586

this old balding florida man doing gratuitous pinch harmonics during the anthem is really funny imo
When I attempted to sell a digidelay on craigslist, I got some great responses, though I probably would have been killed if I followed up on any of them.

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

GUITAR MEGATHREAD: I have a truck that doesn’t have tags

GUITAR MEGATHREAD: I’m playing the star spangled banner for a party and I need that delay

GUITAR MEGATHREAD: Gotta have delay for the national anthem

trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 19:41 on Jan 8, 2023

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

Ok Comboomer posted:

GUITAR MEGATHREAD: I have a truck that doesn’t have tags

GUITAR MEGATHREAD: I’m playing the star spangled banner for a party and I need that delay

GUITAR MEGATHREAD: Gotta have delay for the national anthem

That last one for sure

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer

ethanol posted:

I mean it's totally dead when i plug in the guitar about 90% of the time now.

omg bad fender QC strikes again?? same brick-and-mortar store as before, or online order? either way, scandalous!

creamcorn posted:

https://twitter.com/SteveGuest/status/1611895768368963586

this old balding florida man doing gratuitous pinch harmonics during the anthem is really funny imo

lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xDqL4op54U&t=95s

same guitar, you think? it's fun to imagine!

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Dear thread,

Hope I'm in the right place with this. I've found a guitar neck at a thrift store, is this any good?



BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

There's no obvious brand, and I can't tell if it's warped or otherwise it of shape from the pictures, so who knows? Is there a truss rod in the hole on the head, and does it turn? How flat is the side with the frets (compared to a really flat thing like maybe a tabletop or slab of stone you have for some reason).

Arcsech
Aug 5, 2008

petit choux posted:

Dear thread,

Hope I'm in the right place with this. I've found a guitar neck at a thrift store, is this any good?





Can’t tell from pictures. You’ll have to get someone who has the proper tools to take a look at it. There are some things you can look for up front - for example, if you look down the neck from the headstock and it’s warped (not bowed along the length of the neck, that’s normal, I mean like twisted side to side), the neck is hosed. Run your hands down the sides of the neck, ideally they shouldn’t catch on any of the frets, past that you need tools like a guitar straightedge with slots cut for the frets or a fret rocker to really dig in to how good it is. There’s no make printed on the headstock, which means it’s probably either a high end custom neck or a cheap poo poo (probably the latter but you never know!).

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Helianthus Annuus posted:

omg bad fender QC strikes again?? same brick-and-mortar store as before, or online order?

Again I make no apologies for fender qc but it’s a different store from the avii, one with owners I know and was working fine for like two weeks so no I’m not putting this fault on the store. They’d fix it if I brought it back but as I said I was going to change the electronics anyways, so I’m just gonna do that.

BonHair
Apr 28, 2007

If I want a Fender, what brand should I actually get? Like, if I want a Gibson, I'm getting an ESP/LTD because they're essentially superior copies. But if I want a quality classic strat, where do I go?

Arcsech
Aug 5, 2008

BonHair posted:

If I want a Fender, what brand should I actually get? Like, if I want a Gibson, I'm getting an ESP/LTD because they're essentially superior copies. But if I want a quality classic strat, where do I go?

I think the common answer is going to be G&L, though I’ve never played any myself. Also founded by Leo Fender, makes good quality stuff at better prices than the big name brand.

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
A lot of options but my first thought is G&L

E:^^^^ I have a G&L tele and even though it's one of the cheaper import ones it's really good, was an upgrade from the Squire I had before it

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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Yeah, G&L is kind of the actually better than Fender brand that is still legit Fender. He sold the company and they started making cheap poo poo, and when he wanted to try and develop new ideas they pushed him out so he founded a second company to continue to make Fender-ish things the way the guy named Fender thought they should be made. Leo wasn't some immutable god or anything like that, but he was an engineer with some very interesting ideas and made some really solid technological developments.

Malaria
Oct 21, 2017



BonHair posted:

If I want a Fender, what brand should I actually get? Like, if I want a Gibson, I'm getting an ESP/LTD because they're essentially superior copies. But if I want a quality classic strat, where do I go?

G&L makes great stuff.

The Schecter Nick Johnston strat is amazing for the price too. It's more of modern take on a strat though.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



Do what I do and keep buying and returning mia fenders from sweetwater until one works. Meanwhile be piecing together a mim into your ideal guitar . I will say I love my am pro ii though and it’s never had an issue

G&Ls seem ok :)

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer
conventional wisdom is: Squier for a budget guitar, G&L for a legit but affordable guitar, Suhr for an ultra legit production guitar. I only buy affordable guitars, so i only have Squiers and G&Ls and i only know about Suhr from reputation. Fender is great too if you get a good one.

EDIT: If you are rich, consider placing an order with a boutique or custom shop instead of buying production guitars.

Helianthus Annuus fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Jan 8, 2023

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer

petit choux posted:

Dear thread,

Hope I'm in the right place with this. I've found a guitar neck at a thrift store, is this any good?





definitely a buy at 4 dollars, regardless of whether it turns out to be any good!

Even if it is good, since it's unlabeled, it might be hard to find a body that will join with it nicely.

Malaria
Oct 21, 2017



Also for some reason G&L has really terrible resale value. You can get some absolutely ridiculous deals on Reverb for used ones.

Like I've seen USA made stuff for like half of what they cost new.

JamesKPolk
Apr 9, 2009

Baron von Eevl posted:

Yeah, G&L is kind of the actually better than Fender brand that is still legit Fender. He sold the company and they started making cheap poo poo, and when he wanted to try and develop new ideas they pushed him out so he founded a second company to continue to make Fender-ish things the way the guy named Fender thought they should be made.

lol it sorta happened twice if you count Music Man as distinct from CLF/G&L

creamcorn
Oct 26, 2007

automatic gun for fast, continuous firing

Ok Comboomer posted:

GUITAR MEGATHREAD: Gotta have delay for the national anthem

Helianthus Annuus posted:

conventional wisdom is: Squier for a budget guitar, G&L for a legit but affordable guitar, Suhr for an ultra legit production guitar. I only buy affordable guitars, so i only have Squiers and G&Ls and i only know about Suhr from reputation. Fender is great too if you get a good one.

EDIT: If you are rich, consider placing an order with a boutique or custom shop instead of buying production guitars.

i second this, but would also add a subjective take: don't buy an expensive (more than 1,000 USD) electric guitar if you don't have very specific needs and if it means you don't have a really nice acoustic guitar (preferably classical, but doesn't have to be).

you get much more bang for your buck in terms of avoiding diminishing returns on acoustic, whereas you hit good enough on electric pretty low in the range of available electric instruments. it doesn't matter what you throw into your RAT, they historically thrive on garbage.

800peepee51doodoo
Mar 1, 2001

Volute the swarth, trawl betwixt phonotic
Scoff the festune

Malaria posted:

Also for some reason G&L has really terrible resale value. You can get some absolutely ridiculous deals on Reverb for used ones.

Like I've seen USA made stuff for like half of what they cost new.

This is the way it is for virtually every production manufacturer that isn't Gibson or Fender. In my experience, its also really hard to sell anything that doesn't say Gibson or Fender on the headstock. I've had my LTD EC-1000 on craigslist for a month at $500 and zero takers. Looks like they are $1100 brand new. I don't see any reason to ever buy anything brand new unless you really really want something specific that happens to be in current production. Resale on most brand new guitars is abysmal.

e: I got my 2002 Ibanez RG Prestige 7 for $800 a couple weeks ago. I just looked it up and retail on the current production version is $1900. Lmao why would anybody buy a brand new guitar

800peepee51doodoo fucked around with this message at 23:18 on Jan 8, 2023

petit choux
Feb 24, 2016

Arcsech posted:

Can’t tell from pictures. You’ll have to get someone who has the proper tools to take a look at it. There are some things you can look for up front - for example, if you look down the neck from the headstock and it’s warped (not bowed along the length of the neck, that’s normal, I mean like twisted side to side), the neck is hosed. Run your hands down the sides of the neck, ideally they shouldn’t catch on any of the frets, past that you need tools like a guitar straightedge with slots cut for the frets or a fret rocker to really dig in to how good it is. There’s no make printed on the headstock, which means it’s probably either a high end custom neck or a cheap poo poo (probably the latter but you never know!).

Okay, going from this, it appears to be excellent. Kinda hoping it fits this Squier body I've got here. Have no idea yet. This neck is probably cheap hardware but it feels and looks v nice.


Helianthus Annuus posted:

definitely a buy at 4 dollars, regardless of whether it turns out to be any good!

Even if it is good, since it's unlabeled, it might be hard to find a body that will join with it nicely.

Yeah, maybe foolish to take a chance on it but not costly. When I bust out my Squier body if this works out you will see more about it. Thanks!

Thanks, all!

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



What do you yall think about nash?

edit: are all their guitars relic'd lol

ethanol fucked around with this message at 23:24 on Jan 8, 2023

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Man I put 13s on my acoustic a few months ago and every time I pick it up I hate playing it. Gonna go get some 11s tomorrow.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

ColdPie posted:

Man I put 13s on my acoustic a few months ago and every time I pick it up I hate playing it. Gonna go get some 11s tomorrow.

13s are absolutely masochistic unless you're playing only open chords folk/bluegrass style

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

ColdPie posted:

Man I put 13s on my acoustic a few months ago and every time I pick it up I hate playing it. Gonna go get some 11s tomorrow.

Out of curiosity why did you put 13s on it?

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR
13s on acoustic are great for alternate tunings like DADGAD. For standard they're pretty stiff, but I've been running 12s with no issues for a while now so it depends on what you're playing (mostly rhythm in a pseudo-latin duo at restaurant gigs plus a little bit of singer-songwriter work). For sure it makes your right hand have to work though!

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

TheMightyBoops posted:

Out of curiosity why did you put 13s on it?

Cause I'm still newish to guitar and want to experiment to find what I like & don't like. 13s go in the Don't Like column.

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

ColdPie posted:

Cause I'm still newish to guitar and want to experiment to find what I like & don't like. 13s go in the Don't Like column.

Try 8s next. They’re fun. You might accidentally bend stuff you don’t mean to though.

Edit:

darkwasthenight posted:

13s on acoustic are great for alternate tunings like DADGAD. For standard they're pretty stiff, but I've been running 12s with no issues for a while now so it depends on what you're playing (mostly rhythm in a pseudo-latin duo at restaurant gigs plus a little bit of singer-songwriter work). For sure it makes your right hand have to work though!

Makes sense, I was mainly wondering because I’m playing 11s for the first time because that’s the only flatwounds guitar center stocks and I don’t think I could physically play any larger stings. I have tiny fingers.

TheMightyBoops fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Jan 9, 2023

ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Ok! I think it had 12s when I bought it.

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

ColdPie posted:

Ok! I think it had 12s when I bought it.

Now that I look I think 8s might be hard to find or totally impractical for an acoustic, sorry I haven’t played or owned an acoustic since high school.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Buy a set of 10s meant for 12 strings and use the light strings only for the D, A, and E. Nashville tuning, baby!

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

I've read that Peter Buck uses .13s on his electrics, but then again he is one of the most economically guitar players out there. He's fascinating.
His confidence to just arpeggiate simple chords and get interesting sounds out of them is amazing to me.
He's not a virtuoso by any stretch but if you ever feel bad about not being able to shred, just listen to Buck and realize you absolutely can write amazing songs with just three chords played very well

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
Didn't Dick Dale use something insane like 16s? Seems like it would actually be good for trem picking miserlou type stuff but really harsh for absolutely anything else

trilobite terror
Oct 20, 2007
BUT MY LIVELIHOOD DEPENDS ON THE FORUMS!

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

I've read that Peter Buck uses .13s on his electrics, but then again he is one of the most economically guitar players out there. He's fascinating.
His confidence to just arpeggiate simple chords and get interesting sounds out of them is amazing to me.
He's not a virtuoso by any stretch but if you ever feel bad about not being able to shred, just listen to Buck and realize you absolutely can write amazing songs with just three chords played very well

it helps that Mike Mills is one of the most melodic bassists and often treats his bass almost as a second guitar

Helianthus Annuus
Feb 21, 2006

can i touch your hand
Grimey Drawer

ColdPie posted:

Man I put 13s on my acoustic a few months ago and every time I pick it up I hate playing it. Gonna go get some 11s tomorrow.

before you take the 13s off, maybe tune it down a whole step to D standard, and see if you like that better? if you do like downtuning, it can be good to have the heavier gauges

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

Helianthus Annuus posted:

before you take the 13s off, maybe tune it down a whole step to D standard, and see if you like that better? if you do like downtuning, it can be good to have the heavier gauges

cries in Sunny Day Real Estate Enjoyer

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widefault
Mar 16, 2009

Helianthus Annuus posted:

before you take the 13s off, maybe tune it down a whole step to D standard, and see if you like that better? if you do like downtuning, it can be good to have the heavier gauges

That just leads to buying baritones and Bass VIs, so, yeah, try that.

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