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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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BadOptics posted:Love the EU being in the "good guy" list and then it's constituent nations being listed in the others lol if i had to hazard a guess, it's solely on how enthusiastic of their support for ukraine
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Jan 8, 2023 21:49
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AnimeIsTrash posted:kosovo has potential when its a fake country @_@ well it can only use the potential when it's real.
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Jan 8, 2023 21:49
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if kosovo is real then the dnr and lnr were real
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Jan 8, 2023 21:51
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sum posted:Pretty hosed of Robert Gates and Condoleezza Rice to deny Ukraine's agency like this Weird how the people who spent their whole lives playing the game and actually understand how things work are saying stuff like this
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Jan 8, 2023 22:01
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lobster shirt posted:if kosovo is real then the dnr and lnr were real Kosovo is real because Serbia is real
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Jan 8, 2023 22:09
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Serbia is Greater Kosovo
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Jan 8, 2023 22:10
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ContinuityNewTimes posted:Serbia is Greater Kosovo Ergo, Kosovo is Lesser Serbia 
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Jan 8, 2023 22:14
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Serbia is Equal Turkey
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Jan 8, 2023 22:16
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Orange Devil posted:Nah the Taliban disbanded themselves in 2001 or early 2002. Only later when the US pissed everyone off and left a vacuum they reformed. The Quetta Shura was formed in May 2002, so the Taliban definitely existed, with a formal leadership structure, then. Operation Anaconda happened in early March 2002 and involved Taliban commander Saif-ur-Rehman Mansoor actively involving himself and his men, after regrouping in Pakistan. There are stories about the Taliban or elements of it attempting to surrender in December 2001 but the surrender was rejected by the USA. This is different to disbanding, although it may have indicated a willingness to do so, it didn't happen. You seem to be confusing 'not being very active' with disbanding but I'm pretty stupid so I'm willing to be proven wrong. AnimeIsTrash posted:
Lol at Finland having worse support for Turkey than Greece.
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Jan 8, 2023 22:20
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Weka posted:Lol at Finland having worse support for Turkey than Greece. they’re self hating altai Turks
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Jan 8, 2023 22:30
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Finns are swamp Hungarians. The English of Hungarians
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Jan 8, 2023 22:32
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Frosted Flake posted:Someone smarter than me ITT can explain all of the poo poo NATO and the US got up to leading up the the Turkish invasion of Cyprus, because that paints a pretty clear picture of where loyalties lie. https://twitter.com/xruiztru/status/1553302022430097410
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Jan 8, 2023 22:38
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Frosted Flake posted:They were POWs shot out of hand by the Nazi bastards. Well now I feel bad!! Thanks FF!!!
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Jan 8, 2023 22:39
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Jesus Christ
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Jan 8, 2023 22:39
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stalin was a pussy for trying to appease the west, and not letting the yugoslavians go ham in greece
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Jan 8, 2023 22:41
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yeah, stalin was only about 70% goodAnimeIsTrash posted:kosovo has potential when its a fake country @_@ lol i stopped reading when it listed fake country croatia as good country
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Jan 8, 2023 22:45
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euphronius posted:Jesus Christ lol the Brits got their bases out of it. The US also gave the green light for one NATO member to invade whatever you want to call it, a near-territory, of another and orchestrated the coup in Greece to depose the left leaning non-aligned leadership in favour of the revanchist military government, which “provoked”/provoked Turkey to invade in the first place. It’s amazing. Kissenger was on calls with basically everyone involved, Brit, Greek and Turk. The US at least knew what would play out, possibly set up the whole thing, with the wildcard being the Brits contemplating taking the whole island and British and Turkish troops exchanging fire a few times.
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Jan 8, 2023 22:47
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now see, here's your problem. you've taken a chunk of the island and given it to the british, who manage their own island poorly let alone anyone else's
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Jan 8, 2023 22:48
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Stalin made some factories which is good but he also handed a bunch of jewish communists over to the gestapo, which is not very good
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Jan 8, 2023 22:51
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Jazerus posted:now see, here's your problem. you've taken a chunk of the island and given it to the british, who manage their own island poorly let alone anyone else's Seems like the British managed to retain bases in an independent former colony that was drifting towards the nonaligned bloc just fine.
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Jan 8, 2023 22:55
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Critical support for comrade Stalin in rapid industrialization, less critical support for comrade Stalin for not killing all of the Nazis.
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Jan 8, 2023 22:56
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He let Roosevelt talk him down at Yalta from the initial goal of killing every Nazi officer they could put their hands on like a rube!
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Jan 8, 2023 22:58
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why would Roosevelt argue against that ??
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Jan 8, 2023 22:59
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Critical support for stalin in killing tukhachevksy who probably wasn't planning a coup but probably was a freaky neo-pagan
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Jan 8, 2023 23:00
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Endman posted:He let Roosevelt talk him down at Yalta from the initial goal of killing every Nazi officer they could put their hands on like a rube! Roosevelt thought the idea was funny, it was Churchill who got mad
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Jan 8, 2023 23:00
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AnimeIsTrash posted:stalin was a pussy for trying to appease the west, and not letting the yugoslavians go ham in greece yeah he did a lot of fuckups
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Jan 8, 2023 23:10
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Endman posted:He let Roosevelt talk him down at Yalta from the initial goal of killing every Nazi officer they could put their hands on like a rube! in the west hes now remembered as the guy who killed 8000000000 people under communism
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Jan 8, 2023 23:14
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Stalin joked about hanging like 50,000 German officers to celebrate the Yalta conference and Churchill turned into a huffy little bitch and Roosevelt had to convince him not to walk out because Churchill loving loved nazi officers
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Jan 8, 2023 23:16
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We are all Victims Of Communism
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Jan 8, 2023 23:16
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"Our nazi enemies are only defending themselves against the vile Bolsheviks who are our allies!" -Britain's Most Famous Prime Minister
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Jan 8, 2023 23:24
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Churchill was probably among the worst people who could have headed the Empire at its moment of greatest crisis. The idea of treating the end of the war like the Congress of Vienna was another problem, and that was common among the Americans as well as Brits. The idea of "constructing a postwar world" meant the Nazis were more-or-less going to get off unpunished because of those 19th century ideas about a European balance of power. Throw in Churchill's insane anticommunism and you can see why this arrangement proved to be much, much more unstable than The Concert of Europe. Had Stalin perceived the consequences of Bretton Woods a better deal could have been arranged on the Soviet's part as well. Matt Christman started explaining the diplomatic arrangements and ideas at the close of the war, particularly Bretton Woods, but then veered into unlistenable woo woo poo poo, which is a shame. Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 23:39 on Jan 8, 2023 |
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Jan 8, 2023 23:35
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There was a proposal to make Germany agrarian as poo poo, including filming propaganda videos to convince Germans to chill out in small towns and be OK with different religions. It was filmed and based on a very boring town. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison,_Indiana
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Jan 8, 2023 23:44
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ContinuityNewTimes posted:Stalin joked about hanging like 50,000 German officers to celebrate the Yalta conference and Churchill turned into a huffy little bitch and Roosevelt had to convince him not to walk out because Churchill loving loved nazi officers iirc Roosevelt suggested a compromise of 30,000 which is pretty funny
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Jan 8, 2023 23:45
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Ukraine Shoots Down Its Own MiG-29 Fighter Jet Using Osa Missile Defense System to prove that they could shoot down other nation's fighter jets if it wanted.
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Jan 8, 2023 23:57
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Corky Romanovsky posted:Ukraine Shoots Down Its Own MiG-29 Fighter Jet Using Osa Missile Defense System to prove that they could shoot down other nation's fighter jets if it wanted. “A Ukrainian Osa missile air defense system downed its own, Ukrainian, MiG-29. We have got only slightly involved,” The claim of 600 killed Ukrainian soldier by a large missile strike in the article surprising.
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Jan 9, 2023 00:10
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If you look at what happened in Austria, the Soviets did a much better job recognizing the threat, identifying what the game was, and securing a post war arrangement that was not only positive but lasting. A Cold War over Austria: The Struggle for the State Treaty, Neutrality, and the End of East–West Occupation, 1945–1955 "After World War II, Austria was occupied by Soviet, American, British, and French forces. This study provides the history of the treaty that was negotiated in order to end this occupation. In the Moscow Declaration of 1943, the United States, Great Britain and the Soviet Union had declared that Austria should be liberated from Nazi rule and reconstructed as an independent state. After the war, however, this goal was soon overshadowed by security and power considerations, and then by the Cold War. While the West strove to safeguard Austria’s independence from communist expansion, the USSR refused to finalize a treaty and to withdraw from its zone in the eastern part of the country. In the end it took until 1955 to come to an agreement and receive Soviet consent for a treaty. An important Soviet precondition for agreeing to withdraw was Austria becoming a permanently neutral country. The roots of Austria’s neutrality as traced in this volume were not only linked to Soviet, but also to Austrian considerations. Based on US, Soviet, British, French, German, Swiss and Austrian documents, the book analyzes the risks, pitfalls and blockades that had to be avoided and overcome before Austria could finally regain its independence and be reconstructed." You can tell it worked because look at how mad the Austrian right still is about it today: Between East and West: The Origins of Post-World War II Austrian Diplomacy during the Early Occupation Period "Austrian postwar diplomacy started in the most treacherous of international environments in the final days of World War II. In 1945/46 Austrian diplomacy was initially totally isolated from and then severely circumscribed by the occupation powers and the Allied Council. The raping and looting of the Red Army throughout Eastern Europe and in Austria has to be seen as taking revenge. The first Western representatives to see Vienna and the surrounding Soviet zone of occupation stayed from 3 to 13 June. While the Soviets had set up shop at the glorious Hotel Imperial, the Western powers had not yet established headquarters in Vienna. The Landerkonferenz was a crucial turning point in the fate of postwar Austria. The rocky origins of postwar Austrian diplomacy and the successful conclusion of the Austrian State Treaty proved David Lloyd George wrong, for biding one’s time—one of the hallmarks of the 'old diplomacy' —still could help to produce results." This is despite, by that author's own admission in the more academic Austria in the First Cold War, 1945-55, "American military assistance turned Austria into a 'secret ally' of the West". The Soviets insisted the postwar government have Austrian socialists leading it, and because they had more gumption that others this gambit was used on, that prevented the Bundesheer from doing Gladio poo poo. Final note, detailed in Austria, Germany and the Cold War: From the Anschluss to the State Treaty, 1938-1955 the cost of the Austrian state and society being reconstructed in a way that kept them out of NATO, kept a social safety net despite, well, Austrian Economics, and everything else is that they developed a weird revision of their own. See, the official Austrian position, and I'm not joking here - is that Austria was the first victim of Nazi aggression. That's how Austrians think about and describe the country's involvement in the Second World War, they compare themselves to Poles and Czechs, maybe even more hard done by as their country was occupied by the Germans for the longest. There's way more than I can go in to here, but it's a very weird position to have developed, but one that worked. Poland isn't asking them for reparations. "In the 'Moscow Declaration' of 1943 the Allies officially propagated the notion of Austria as the first victim of Hitlerite aggression and announced their intention to set up a 'free and independent Austria' after the war, which finally happened in 1955. By questioning why it took so long to get to this point, the author addresses issues such as the victim thesis, Austrians as perpetrators, Austrian anti-Semitism and official attempts to mitigate its effects after the war. He discusses the various proposals for post-war Austria and connects for the first time the issues of Anschluss, German question, Cold War, and the State Treaty. He makes it clear that the question of Austria was from the very beginning inextricably linked with the more important question of Germany." To touch on ethnography again, there was a conscious push to refer to Germans and Austrians as separate people, in English at least, postwar, which is almost incomprehensible if you think about it. If you asked the average American what language Austrians speak, they would say Austrian, and it goes from there. This, as opposed to Austrians being Germans living in Austria. The whole thing is kind of incoherent without the Hapsburgs but preventing Austria and Germany from being united has been a priority in European Great Power politics since the 1500's so the existence and independence of the Federal Republic needed to be constructed somehow. Describing them as an independent nation invaded by Germany accomplished this. Also the Sound of Music was a part of this project, though I know less about that. I don't think the CIA or KGB called up Oscar Hammerstein or anything, but I digress.
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Jan 9, 2023 00:15
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https://twitter.com/carterforva/status/1612139328494526464?t=kUO2vwulxYe3lsWuL-aBkw&s=19 https://twitter.com/carterforva/status/1612156171514793987?t=Alt2NphEunqImZ2xAMbJ8A&s=19
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Jan 9, 2023 00:15
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It's the Eurasian Times. I posted it only for the thread relevant headline.
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Jan 9, 2023 00:15
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There's that Finnish SS guy who is maybe the only guy to get his rear end kicked by communists in three different wars in three different national armies Of course he was a green beret
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*pöhinä-äänellä* erillissota
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