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Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!


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oobey
Nov 19, 2002

We've secretly replaced Prickly City with an old television tuned to static. Let's see if viewers can tell the difference...

Cowcaster
Aug 7, 2002



i want to reach up tatsuya ishida’s butthole and turn him inside out like a shirt sleeve

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
idk if you could get the hand in, his head's already stuck up there pretty firmly

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
I've finished categorizing and recoding entries for the 2022 Kellies; we've had some very interesting nomination shifts, including some categories having very few entries, and others an unprecedented number. I'm going to be looking for additional nominees in the following categories to keep them viable for voting:

Best Threatening with a Good Time
Laziest Gorrell
Least Concealed Bigotry (General) (so not race, LGBTQ+, antisemitism or transphobia)
Most Any Day Now
Most Grotesque
Most Internationally Tone Deaf
Most Willfully Dense
Worst Cartoon That Could've Been Published 20 Years Ago
Worst Concern Trolling

More details in the thread OP, which should appear later this week.

Also, my thanks to Intoluene and Skeleton Mom for coming up with the idea of a separate Least Concealed Bigotry (Transphobia) category.

Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Jan 9, 2023

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Angepain posted:

:kstare:

I suspect this might be something of a send-off for Sinfest - Space Cadet Omoly seems to not be posting it anymore and half the thread wanted it to stop anyway.

Yeah, looking at Sinfest every day was starting to bum me out so I decided to take a break from it (that and I recently went on a trip where I didn't have internet access) I was thinking of doing one final send off post, but you did it for me which is honestly a huge relief, thank you!

Man, I've been doing Sinfest posts since the end of 2020, back then the comic was still "both sides bad" it got really right wing really quickly after that. Fascist propaganda is fast acting, and being a TERF is the first step to being a full on Nazi. If there are any lessons to be learned from this whole mess it's those things.

Tibalt posted:

Yes

The reaction has been hilarious, especially considering that "Joker is pregnant!" is absolutely a golden age story.

Honestly the most surprising thing about this storyline for me is that it's the first time a male character has gotten pregnant in a DC comic because like you said the golden age did this kind of stuff constantly.

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

It's been interesting watching how quickly the TERF stuff consumed everything in Sinfest. Back in 2020 the plotlines and characters were insane but at least they were there. I can't remember if anything happened in 2022 other than baby new year was born, became a handmaid then died. I guess Monique sulked for a bit in an alt-right diner? That was the year?

Space Cadet Omoly
Jan 15, 2014

~Groovy~


Trapezium Dave posted:

It's been interesting watching how quickly the TERF stuff consumed everything in Sinfest. Back in 2020 the plotlines and characters were insane but at least they were there. I can't remember if anything happened in 2022 other than baby new year was born, became a handmaid then died. I guess Monique sulked for a bit in an alt-right diner? That was the year?

This year was mostly spent praising Musk for doing such a great job running Twitter, comics which have already aged incredibly well.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

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This isn't even a joke. It's just a character turning to the camera and going "YES. THE CHRISTIAN GOD IS REAL."

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!
In this world of his comic, God is definitely real and multiple main characters have evidence of the no-poo poo existence of both God and Satan and various devils. Of course, God is also a huge jerk in the comic, and I assume we're supposed to forget about that part at this point and take it as a comment on the real world instead.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

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idonotlikepeas posted:

In this world of his comic, God is definitely real and multiple main characters have evidence of the no-poo poo existence of both God and Satan and various devils. Of course, God is also a huge jerk in the comic, and I assume we're supposed to forget about that part at this point and take it as a comment on the real world instead.
In which case a punchline that would've been an actual joke and reinforced Ishida's beliefs would've been "he's not invisible, he's right over there" and God's just chilling up in the sky.

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!
"Don't worry, he'll put on an rear end in a top hat puppet show for your friend later."

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!


J.A.B.C.
Jul 2, 2007

There's no need to rush to be an adult.


Vib Rib posted:

This isn't even a joke. It's just a character turning to the camera and going "YES. THE CHRISTIAN GOD IS REAL."

I could remember when God was considered half joke, half malevolent force that only the most unlikable and gullible of people (Seymour) ever listened to.

Now Monique is taking that position and God is totally cool and awesome and we need him more than ever. I expect Kevin Sorbo and the Newsboys to enter the strip at any time now (yes that was a God's Not Dead reference and that's the level of quality we have reached) with no irony.

:patriot: Thank you for your service, Space Cadet Omoly. Hope your 2023 is happier and much less sin-fest-full.

JamesBont
Oct 1, 2021

Shut the gently caress up.

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Kellies nomination: Most Opposite of Reality

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

Rall: It's My Party and I'll Conflate If I Want To

Ted Rall posted:

Ever since Donald Trump became president, Democrats have taken to equating the fate of their own party to the fate of American democracy. In a two-party system, the logical conclusion is that this is profoundly undemocratic.

Trapezium Dave fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Jan 9, 2023

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

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Ah thanks Rall glad we had a staunch leftist like you to finally come out in favor of the Republican Party

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under


So... no mention of the other party that is making themselves virtually poison to vote for, Rall?

Lareine
Jul 22, 2007

KIIIRRRYYYUUUUU CHAAAANNNNNN

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STRIKE 14. ON THE 15TH VOTE MCCARTHY HAS BEEN ELECTED SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE.
STRIKE 11, STRIKE 12, STRIKE 13…
STRIKE 7, STRIKE 8, STRIKE 9, STRIKE 10…. POSTED CARTOON UPDATE 01/05/2023
STRIKE 3, STRIKE 4, STRIKE 5….STRIKE 6 POSTED 01/04/2023
BREAKING: 4TH US HOUSE VOTE FOR SPEAKER – MCCARTHY LOSES 4TH VOTE AS CONSERVATIVES VOTE FOR BYRON DONALDS
BREAKING :MCCARTHY LOSES 5TH VOTE FOR SPEAKER TRIES TO BROKER DEAL WITH DEMS FOR SPEAKERSHIP
BREAKING :MCCARTHY LOSES 6TH VOTE FOR SPEAKER
Yesterday Kevin McCarthy lost his bid for Speaker of the House in three consecutive votes.

It was the first time in 100 years that Speakership was not decided in the first vote.

YOU DON’T ‘DRAIN THE SWAMP’ BY PUTTING THE ALLIGATOR IN CHARGE.
Today the RINO establishment is resorting to threats.

Rep. Mike Rogers Threatened 20 Conservative Lawmakers to vote for McCarthy or be Stripped from Committees and Primaried from Office.

Will MAGA be threatened into submission?

Or Will MAGA republicans rip the leash out of the RINO establishment’s hands?

A determined band of Republicans are playing hardball. They refuse to support Kevin McCarthy for Speaker of The House. McCarthy, who is a status-quo supporter of the Deep State Globalist Swamp, struck out three times yesterday. He could not muster the necessary votes from his own party. Let’s hope this continues today. We need to take stand and refuse to go along with uni-party politicians who are destroying the country and our rights.

President Trump needs to renounce McCarthy. Trump did his best to work within the system during his first term. As a result, he was backstabbed and the Swamp did not get drained. To drain the Swamp, we need the MAGA-minded in control of the House and maybe in two more years, the Senate as well.

This morning Trump endorsed McCarthy.

WILL MCCARTHY TAKE A KNEE AND KISS THE TRUMP RING?
We will find out.

The House will vote again this afternoon.

Developing story check back for updates.


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LOOKING FOR A DRIVER- ALLIGATORS ONLY APPLY
Today is the second anniversary of the January 6th protest of the stolen election. Never forget our fellow patriots still locked up in Pelosi’s gulag for two years. Freedom Friday, release the January 6 protestors.

MAGA Republican voters have got to be frustrated. If we’re lucky, we are able to see our chosen representatives sent to Congress. Unfortunately too many of them become Swamp dwellers. They go along to get along. Many turn into RINOs (Republican In Name Only) and meld together with the Democrats to form what’s known as the “Uni-Party.” They then vote for massive spending packages that they don’t even read. The trillions of dollars spent drives up inflation for the average man. They vote for funding an insane war that we have no stake in. Over $100 billion has gone to Ukraine only to further the corruption and death there. Yes, too many Republicans are in favor of this war, because they love the Military Industrial Complex and do their bidding.

Sean Hannity, the war monger and establishment shill at Fox News, was in angry form as he barked at Representative Lauren Boebert because she’s one of 20 who are holding up the election of Kevin McCarthy to House Speaker. Hannity yelled that we needed ‘governance’ to resume. That got me thinking. Why? What has the House and indeed the Senate and White House done for us lately? They’ve done nothing to help our border while at the same time they loudly applauded a tyrant and his sacred borders of Ukraine.

Politicians are elected and get fabulously rich and enjoy generous benefits while they sit back and invent ways to stick it to American citizens. Congress has brought us the NDAA, the so-called “Patriot Act,” (should be renamed “UNpatriotic Act”), as well as 87,000 IRS agents ready to harass the average Joe. This is what Congress does. They steal from voters by means of taxes. They stab their voters in the back the first chance they get with legislation that limits freedom. The twenty Republicans who actually listen to their voters have had enough of it and are holding up the show. This enrages Hannity (who claimed not to know what the Bilderberg meetings were) and power brokers such as Karl Rove, who helped rig Republican primaries against Ron Paul during the latter’s campaigns for president.

Maybe it’s a good thing not to have any governance for awhile. Stick it to the Swamp! Let’s have a bit of anarchism, which means more freedom. Even if for a short while.

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UNI-PARTY, “WE’RE BACK IN BUSINESS BABY!”
Cartoon Published January 8th, 2023
Now that the House has elected a Speaker, they can begin governing everyone again. Many were terrified at the prospect of not having a functioning government there to tell them what to do while enacting new and expensive legislation that robs their pockets and liberty. Those who worship big government can now get back on their knees and spout a prayer of thanks.

Speaker McCarthy is a very experienced politician and that’s not a good thing. It means he’s used to compromising and getting along to go along. He revealed his ‘tell’ in his acceptance speech. He invoked the name of Lincoln and how great that president was and blah blah blah. Lincoln was NOT a great president. He is worshipped because he was the victor of a bloody Civil War. Schoolbooks mold young minds and they end up parroting the statist praise. Lincoln caused the deaths of 620,000 men. 1.5 million casualties total when the injured are factored in and that’s a huge number considering the US population was around 31 million back then. Lincoln trampled on the Constitution and arrested his political opponents. He helped create a strong central government and weakened the rights of individual states. Big government has grown ever since and now it’s a dominating leviathan of force and power. Our politicians love that power and all the money that goes with it.

Everyone saw how angry McCarthy became when one of the last MAGA holdouts, Matt Gaetz refused to vote for him. The Neocon RINO Representative Mike Rogers of Alabama was so incensed that he seemed to threaten violence toward Gaetz. This is not surprising, because Rogers probably thought his gravy train was being unduly delayed. Too many go to Congress ostensibly to represent their voters, but when they get there they go along with the Uniparty and then they get very rich due to insider trading and kickbacks. They get very comfortable and end up doing all they can to support the Swamp rather than drain it.

Promises were made this time around, but to me they were made to be broken. Let’s start with cancelling the 87,000 armed IRS agents who will be ready to swoop down on the middle class and destroy them. We know the socialist Democrats love the IRS. They pretend the IRS will go after the rich, but the middle class can’t afford tax lawyers, so they will suffer the most. The Democrats will never relinquish their power to transfer money from hard working people and give it to various victims du jour. The RINOs will be enlisted to go along. Most likely we’ll see a small cut in the amount of those new IRS agents—and you can be sure the Republicans will cynically trumpet it as a victory.

The Republican Party loves to complain, but they do little to stop the spending, the debt, the open borders, and the open corruption taking place. That’s because they benefit from many of those problems. The complaining is for the benefit of their voters. Trey Gowdy did this when he was a Representative in the House. Now that he’s on Fox News, he parrots the warmonger establishment NeoCon, Sean Hannity. Remember, when the Republicans were in charge during Trump’s first two years, the wall was not built, and real change was not made. Expect more of the same inertia.

The Republican-controlled House has to put up or shut up. At this point I’m in ‘show me’ mode.

I have a feeling they’ll show us the same old same old.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Ben posted:

President Trump needs to renounce McCarthy. Trump did his best to work within the system during his first term. As a result, he was backstabbed and the Swamp did not get drained. To drain the Swamp, we need the MAGA-minded in control of the House and maybe in two more years, the Senate as well.

This morning Trump endorsed McCarthy.

:sickos:
It's amazing how he keeps oscillating between "SAVE US LORD TRUMP" and "sigh, Trump did nothing" and just never learns.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer

Trapezium Dave posted:

Rall: It's My Party and I'll Conflate If I Want To


This is so weird as a viewpoint, from a Norwegian stance at least. It's not like Democrats all agree on every point, even here there's like 12 different flavors of parties competing. Saying "well, it wouldn't be democratic if it was only the Democratic Party" is actually insane to me. American options are basically infighting or accepting fascism.

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!
Clay Bennett




Steve Kelley




Apologies for this batch; I'll resize them to something more sane next time so they don't have to be t'imged. (Didn't notice until after I'd reuploaded them already.)

Lee Judge




Mike Smith




Kirk Walters

Trapezium Dave
Oct 22, 2012

Do cartoonists try to outdo themselves by how out of date their game controllers are because that is some Spacewar! vintage gear.

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Trapezium Dave posted:

Do cartoonists try to outdo themselves by how out of date their game controllers are because that is some Spacewar! vintage gear.

It's just some gizmo™️. I'm more intrigued by that game, apparently it's a 2D side scroller shooting game where your character's upper body takes up 20% of the screen and you have a scoped rifle but can't see what you are aiming at. Those are the best games.

Grey Hunter
Oct 17, 2007

Hero of the soviet union.
Accidental destroyer of planets

Nenonen posted:

It's just some gizmo™️. I'm more intrigued by that game, apparently it's a 2D side scroller shooting game where your character's upper body takes up 20% of the screen and you have a scoped rifle but can't see what you are aiming at. Those are the best games.
Also, rather than a solider, the shooter seems to be a middle aged man in normal cloths.

J.A.B.C.
Jul 2, 2007

There's no need to rush to be an adult.


Nenonen posted:

It's just some gizmo™️. I'm more intrigued by that game, apparently it's a 2D side scroller shooting game where your character's upper body takes up 20% of the screen and you have a scoped rifle but can't see what you are aiming at. Those are the best games.

He's actually playing an FPS but that's his squadmate using the MightyPen Sniper Rifle. In a game like this it's a lot better than your melee options, even surpassing the sword's DPS.

Mordaedil posted:

This is so weird as a viewpoint, from a Norwegian stance at least. It's not like Democrats all agree on every point, even here there's like 12 different flavors of parties competing. Saying "well, it wouldn't be democratic if it was only the Democratic Party" is actually insane to me. American options are basically infighting or accepting fascism.

It's good to remember that Rall is a contrarian, and a shill. He can never accept good things happening even when the alternative is far, far worse. So he has to weasel into these positions to look smart and authoritative. He just looks like a dumb rear end in a top hat.

Adding to what you pointed out, as we saw with the recent speaker vote, even the Repubs aren't 'one party' anymore. They start as neo-con right and dive headlong into christofascism and violent conspiracists. Saying that one party with a dozen different viewpoints has a slight majority compared to another party with a dozen different viewpoints is somehow 'one party rule' is absurd even without any sort of context or nuance, which Rall couldn't communicate to save his next check from Moscow.

J.A.B.C. fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Jan 9, 2023

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment that I'm alive, I pray for death!

Trapezium Dave posted:

Do cartoonists try to outdo themselves by how out of date their game controllers are because that is some Spacewar! vintage gear.*

*Latest Fad.

kartikeya
Mar 17, 2009


Gosh, it sure is sad that this character I know literally nothing about died. Good thing she had all those good memories with her friend, whose name we don't know and who somehow manages to have much more personality despite her entire character being "hurr i'm crazy and dumb in what the artist thinks is an endearing way", and he didn't just shove it all in last minute. Excellent story-telling, just the best.

I can't believe I'm saying that 2021 was much more of a character with a death that was more emotional (if still hilariously sudden and instantly forgotten). That reminds me, her parents were still around this year and Tex got far more time than 2022, what with kidnapping random dudes and then hanging out in some diner dancing with Traitor McMustache. Then he and his wife went and crashed a Twitter party. lol, even they've forgotten 2021 existed.


Ben absolutely did not draw this one. He maybe half assed the batter's face. Maybe. The rest of it is pure Tina.

edit:

idonotlikepeas posted:

"Don't worry, he'll put on an rear end in a top hat puppet show for your friend later."

kartikeya fucked around with this message at 16:50 on Jan 9, 2023

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

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Still laughing at the personification of 2022 dying on January 8th 2023. You know, the date when the year is over.

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Guardian:

"Ben Jennings on Rishi Sunak’s answers on healthcare — Rishi Sunak has refused to say whether he uses private healthcare amid suggestions he is out of touch with millions of ordinary people who face long waiting times to receive treatment on the NHS"

Telegraph:

'Bring Boris back': Inside the Tory grassroots group creating fresh headaches for Rishi Sunak

Times:


Evening Standard:

Prince Harry makes fresh bombshell accusations against royal family in ITV interview with Tom Bradby; Start Me Up: Final checks made ahead of first UK rocket launch tonight

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



I'm fine with last Sunday being the last Sinfest Sunday. He's gone full-on right wing, incel apologist, born again "Christian", swerf/terf, and I think the only things he's missing on the extremist bingo card was "outright neo-nazi" and "holocaust denier".

idonotlikepeas
May 29, 2010

This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!

Beautiful.

Vib Rib posted:

Still laughing at the personification of 2022 dying on January 8th 2023. You know, the date when the year is over.

It's been pointed out a bunch of times, but if you put the loving personification of a year in your comic and have that person die on New Year's Day... like, maybe make those things line up? It's not like you don't know the new year is coming. You know, when you switch the calendar over to December or maybe even November you might want to make a plan about how you're going to handle this.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Ben is going to make a comic sympathetic to Bolsonarno’s personal coup attempt, isn’t he?

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

Pants Donkey posted:

Ben is going to make a comic sympathetic to Bolsonarno’s personal coup attempt, isn’t he?

I'm not sure; he'd need an enemy to cast it as opposing, and there's not one that clearly aligns with his usual views.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.

idonotlikepeas posted:

It's been pointed out a bunch of times, but if you put the loving personification of a year in your comic and have that person die on New Year's Day... like, maybe make those things line up? It's not like you don't know the new year is coming. You know, when you switch the calendar over to December or maybe even November you might want to make a plan about how you're going to handle this.

I think this year death might actually be more on time than an earlier one.

edit: gently caress, sorry for the double post.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
There's idiots on twitter claiming that Lula is a communist and also a globalist and also a WEF plant, so obviously all three are true and that's what Bolsonaro is secretly opposing by making GBS threads himself into hospital in Florida.

ZZT the Fifth
Dec 6, 2006
I shot the invisible swordsman.

Randalor posted:

I'm fine with last Sunday being the last Sinfest Sunday. He's gone full-on right wing, incel apologist, born again "Christian", swerf/terf, and I think the only things he's missing on the extremist bingo card was "outright neo-nazi" and "holocaust denier".

Missing-ish? He's done a bunch of anti-semitic tropes and poo poo; an Einstein caricature devil using "fractional reserve banking" to "subjugate the masses"; complaining about "globalists", the Bilderberg Group, reptilians and the Rothschilds; the whole blood libel poo poo talking about using the blood of children to make eternal youth pills....

Also the whole pandering to 4chan's /pol/ with extremely old memes (loving Pedobear, really?) and also, just in the last week or two, pandering to Reddit's long-gone "frenworld" nazi hideout a what with the pink handmaid going "FREN FREN FREN" and then Ishida adding cut-and-pasted deformed pepe variants used in Frenworld to the ones he'd already drawn, in the middle of a Sunday strip that he was ostensibly trying to evoke pathos with.

If he isn't already down the nazi rabbit hole, he's definitely trying to look up what the Extremely Online nazis are into so he can go "How do you do, fellow young nazis?"

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


Nenonen posted:

It's just some gizmo™️. I'm more intrigued by that game, apparently it's a 2D side scroller shooting game where your character's upper body takes up 20% of the screen and you have a scoped rifle but can't see what you are aiming at. Those are the best games.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1f5Kg4lQB4A&t=79s

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Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



ZZT the Fifth posted:

Missing-ish? He's done a bunch of anti-semitic tropes and poo poo; an Einstein caricature devil using "fractional reserve banking" to "subjugate the masses"; complaining about "globalists", the Bilderberg Group, reptilians and the Rothschilds; the whole blood libel poo poo talking about using the blood of children to make eternal youth pills....

Also the whole pandering to 4chan's /pol/ with extremely old memes (loving Pedobear, really?) and also, just in the last week or two, pandering to Reddit's long-gone "frenworld" nazi hideout a what with the pink handmaid going "FREN FREN FREN" and then Ishida adding cut-and-pasted deformed pepe variants used in Frenworld to the ones he'd already drawn, in the middle of a Sunday strip that he was ostensibly trying to evoke pathos with.

If he isn't already down the nazi rabbit hole, he's definitely trying to look up what the Extremely Online nazis are into so he can go "How do you do, fellow young nazis?"

That's what I mean when I say he's not "outright" a neo-nazi yet. He's blowing the dogwhistles as hard as he can, but he hasn't out-and-out hidden (or blatantly shown) swastikas and having the "protagonists" sieg heiling like that one comic (was it Red Panels?). The mask may have all but fallen off, but it's still hanging on by a thread.

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