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Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Groda posted:

So how many of us are buying this watch as an inside joke about post-9/11 hysteria?

I've made friends in adulthood bonding over this dumb joke.

I musta missed this meme

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Raluek
Nov 3, 2006

WUT.

Humphreys posted:

I musta missed this meme

that one watch you had as a kid because it was cheap and indestructible is also notorious for (apocryphally?) being used as an IED timer because it was cheap and indestructible.

for a while you could get hassled at security checkpoints because ~~terrorism~~ for having a normal watch

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Raluek posted:

that one watch you had as a kid because it was cheap and indestructible is also notorious for (apocryphally?) being used as an IED timer because it was cheap and indestructible.

for a while you could get hassled at security checkpoints because ~~terrorism~~ for having a normal watch

Ah I was thinking it had some timer functions like the Nike watches our Combat Engineers used to use in the 2000s that had 3 or 4 simultaneous timers to keep track of sequenced detonations.

Edit: Actually I have a vague memory from 2000s Army gossip that they could open the back up and wire into the alarm speaker as a sort of ignition relay trigger stupidly easy.

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You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

r u ready to WALK posted:

kinda depressing that we've gone from these beauties



I remember admining Xserves from G4 to the last of the Intel based ones with a 2TB XRaid connected to it. It provided authentication and home drives/folders for the Linux, Mac and Windows clients we had.

It was pretty rock stable, the only issues I had with it was when upgrading the Xserve hardware we weren't told that you needed to upgrade the firmware on the Xraid first.

Anyway, saw a friend yesterday and got these Apple Pro Speakers for my G4 MDD PowerMac



They sound so good for small speakers

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


You Am I posted:

I remember admining Xserves from G4 to the last of the Intel based ones with a 2TB XRaid connected to it. It provided authentication and home drives/folders for the Linux, Mac and Windows clients we had.

It was pretty rock stable, the only issues I had with it was when upgrading the Xserve hardware we weren't told that you needed to upgrade the firmware on the Xraid first.

Anyway, saw a friend yesterday and got these Apple Pro Speakers for my G4 MDD PowerMac



They sound so good for small speakers

And yet you still use the best mouse ever.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

Humphreys posted:

And yet you still use the best mouse ever.

I have one I literally found at the rubbish tip.

I’ve been finding a lot of great stuff at tip shops lately, like one time I found a mud-encrusted PS3 Slim. I swapped out the failing hard drive for a spare 240GB SATA SSD nicked from a dead laptop at work, found and removed four DVDs crammed into the blu-ray drive one after another, and now it works great. Best thing is it’s old enough that you can pick up games for only a few bucks each at any second hand shop, but not so old that collectors have driven the price up yet.

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!
In this 2-parter, Odd & Obsolete restores a lil' Mac SE30 with horrific battery corrosion by way of a replacement motherboard PCB and endless hours of soldering. Owns that we live in the era of inexpensive access to custom PCBs, and enthusiasts mad enough to recreate the schematics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K9OV4kSGGAc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_tdcKXJ1E0

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


https://i.imgur.com/54wCq6g.mp4
Unmute

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012





That is one funky man.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Humphreys posted:

And yet you still use the best mouse ever.

I have a real soft spot for the early MS ball-less mice, got a pile of them.

Today was back up the G4 MDD PowerMac. However it would not recognise my external Firewire HDD even though the rest of my Firewire equiped Macs do. So this setup was the solution:



PowerMac in Target Disk mode, connected to one of the Firewire ports on my G4 PowerBook, with the external HDD connected to the other Firewire port.

Even with a fresh install of OSX 10.5.8 on the PowerMac it still refused to recognise the external HDD unless it was plugged into the USB port

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


You Am I posted:

I have a real soft spot for the early MS ball-less mice, got a pile of them.

Today was back up the G4 MDD PowerMac. However it would not recognise my external Firewire HDD even though the rest of my Firewire equiped Macs do. So this setup was the solution:



PowerMac in Target Disk mode, connected to one of the Firewire ports on my G4 PowerBook, with the external HDD connected to the other Firewire port.

Even with a fresh install of OSX 10.5.8 on the PowerMac it still refused to recognise the external HDD unless it was plugged into the USB port

Nice.

My first Intellimouse I swapped the red LED for a blue one and the rear red for a UV. Then I cut holes in it and mounted a small fan so I wasnt so sweaty playing Unreal Tournament.

Actually, you are the person to ask a question:
Are there Firewire equivalent of USB sticks? I have a fractured memory of them existing and I want one for 'reasons'

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Humphreys posted:

Actually, you are the person to ask a question:
Are there Firewire equivalent of USB sticks? I have a fractured memory of them existing and I want one for 'reasons'

There was, but I don't think they ever became common.

Like, here's a review for one: https://www.cnet.com/reviews/kanguru-fire-flash-review/

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

CaptainSarcastic posted:

There was, but I don't think they ever became common.

Like, here's a review for one: https://www.cnet.com/reviews/kanguru-fire-flash-review/

quote:

USB memory keys, or thumbdrives, are becoming so widespread and increasingly inexpensive, it wouldn't surprise us if one day, they were included in boxes of cereal.

i wonder if that ever actually happened.

You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

I don't remember seeing any Firewire flash drives. The FW external drives I used back in the day were always spinning rust, as I needed the space for backing up machines or having copies of OSX installers

Samuel L. ACKSYN
Feb 29, 2008


I remember hearing about Firewire flash drives but I never actually saw one irl.


there were also firewire hubs available, including the best one, the Firedino

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
I still have a tech tool pro (I think) FireWire rescue drive. Need to locate it, may be able to offer it up. It came in USB and FireWire versions and I have one of each somewhere.

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CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



I remember I had some Firewire external drive enclosures, but that's the closest I got, I think.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

I still have a tech tool pro (I think) FireWire rescue drive. Need to locate it, may be able to offer it up. It came in USB and FireWire versions and I have one of each somewhere.

Oh that would be amazing if you find it!

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer

Humphreys posted:

Oh that would be amazing if you find it!

I need to see if I have something I can hook it to to make sure I don’t have any company data on here otherwise I’m happy to send it to you. Wonder if there’s a combination of cables that will make it work. FireWire to FireWire 2 to thunderbolt to usb c anyone?

George RR Fartin
Apr 16, 2003




On the way to drop my kids at school, I saw some stuff outside the local church. Turns out most of it was in a Toys for Tots box, so I expertly pretended I wasn't looking at that and wandered to their actual giant pile of garbage and found an old NAD 3220PE amplifier they were chucking out. Took it home and it works just fine. I'm using it to replace a newer amplifier for the purpose of mostly sending sound from my old video game consoles to the bookshelf speakers I have configured.

There is one thing I wanted to run by this thread though (since there are a number of experts popping in and out and it's almost certainly the sort of thing that's an obvious answer from someone who deals with/dealt with similar): The newer amp I'm replacing has an FM tuner on it while the old one does not. Can I just cut an RCA cable in half, stick the bare wires into the left/right speaker outputs, and plug the RCA jack into a pair of inputs on the amp to get radio out of it? I don't know if this sort of thing is converted in some manner and I'm gonna blow something up. I don't expect or care about "adding power" or anything if that were even possible. I just want to sort of pass the radio output to the better amp. Is this an insane plan?

For reference, the newer amp is one of these things:

https://www.amazon.com/Sunbuck-Wire...mplifier+system

empty baggie
Oct 22, 2003

Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:

I need to see if I have something I can hook it to to make sure I don’t have any company data on here otherwise I’m happy to send it to you. Wonder if there’s a combination of cables that will make it work. FireWire to FireWire 2 to thunderbolt to usb c anyone?



I’ve transferred data from old macs to new through target disk mode using FW800 to Thunderbolt to USB-C dongles several times.

E: specifically, old computer connected to a FireWire cable connected to Apple’s thunderbolt to FW800 dongle that was connected to a USB-C to thunderbolt dongle that was connected to the new computer. I assume throwing a FW400 to 800 adapter into the mix would still work lol

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Flipperwaldt
Nov 11, 2011

Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?



George RR Fartin posted:

Can I just cut an RCA cable in half, stick the bare wires into the left/right speaker outputs, and plug the RCA jack into a pair of inputs on the amp to get radio out of it?
No, massively different signal strengths, blowing something up territory.

HKR
Jan 13, 2006

there is no universe where duke nukem would not be a trans ally



George RR Fartin posted:

On the way to drop my kids at school, I saw some stuff outside the local church. Turns out most of it was in a Toys for Tots box, so I expertly pretended I wasn't looking at that and wandered to their actual giant pile of garbage and found an old NAD 3220PE amplifier they were chucking out. Took it home and it works just fine. I'm using it to replace a newer amplifier for the purpose of mostly sending sound from my old video game consoles to the bookshelf speakers I have configured.

There is one thing I wanted to run by this thread though (since there are a number of experts popping in and out and it's almost certainly the sort of thing that's an obvious answer from someone who deals with/dealt with similar): The newer amp I'm replacing has an FM tuner on it while the old one does not. Can I just cut an RCA cable in half, stick the bare wires into the left/right speaker outputs, and plug the RCA jack into a pair of inputs on the amp to get radio out of it? I don't know if this sort of thing is converted in some manner and I'm gonna blow something up. I don't expect or care about "adding power" or anything if that were even possible. I just want to sort of pass the radio output to the better amp. Is this an insane plan?

For reference, the newer amp is one of these things:

https://www.amazon.com/Sunbuck-Wire...mplifier+system

nope, that's an incredibly bad idea. If you need FM radio, there are a number of vintage dedicated tuners out on the used market for cheap that'll usually have much better reception. If you need a digital FM tuner for whatever reason, there are dedicated tuner models that go for about $100-$200 on ebay.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



George RR Fartin posted:

On the way to drop my kids at school, I saw some stuff outside the local church. Turns out most of it was in a Toys for Tots box, so I expertly pretended I wasn't looking at that and wandered to their actual giant pile of garbage and found an old NAD 3220PE amplifier they were chucking out. Took it home and it works just fine. I'm using it to replace a newer amplifier for the purpose of mostly sending sound from my old video game consoles to the bookshelf speakers I have configured.

There is one thing I wanted to run by this thread though (since there are a number of experts popping in and out and it's almost certainly the sort of thing that's an obvious answer from someone who deals with/dealt with similar): The newer amp I'm replacing has an FM tuner on it while the old one does not. Can I just cut an RCA cable in half, stick the bare wires into the left/right speaker outputs, and plug the RCA jack into a pair of inputs on the amp to get radio out of it? I don't know if this sort of thing is converted in some manner and I'm gonna blow something up. I don't expect or care about "adding power" or anything if that were even possible. I just want to sort of pass the radio output to the better amp. Is this an insane plan?

For reference, the newer amp is one of these things:

https://www.amazon.com/Sunbuck-Wire...mplifier+system

It's been a while since I played around with stereo equipment, but I think you would want to connect the better non-radio amp to the tape output ports on the old radio amp, then set the old amp as though you were recording radio to tape. That should give you radio on whatever input you connect to on the better amp.

George RR Fartin
Apr 16, 2003




I appreciate the responses! I figured I'd ask just to be sure, since I had a nagging feeling that doing it in such a manner would be a source of problems.. I'm certain I can find something around here to hook up legimately to this amp (in the garage I just used a power supply and an old car stereo hooked up to some speakers) but I haven't been able to dig anything out of the pile as of yet. I can just patiently wait for someone to chuck a radio component out as well, it's not like I can't find non-hifi radios around and it's not life or death or anything.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



George RR Fartin posted:

I appreciate the responses! I figured I'd ask just to be sure, since I had a nagging feeling that doing it in such a manner would be a source of problems.. I'm certain I can find something around here to hook up legimately to this amp (in the garage I just used a power supply and an old car stereo hooked up to some speakers) but I haven't been able to dig anything out of the pile as of yet. I can just patiently wait for someone to chuck a radio component out as well, it's not like I can't find non-hifi radios around and it's not life or death or anything.

Do you have enough RCA cables? Because I'm pretty sure what I suggested would work fine, as long as the radio is getting signal. Radio amp RCA from tape out to AUX in on new amp, set radio amp as though you were recording radio to tape (whatever the combo of switches might be on that specific device) and set new amp to play from AUX.

George RR Fartin
Apr 16, 2003




Looking around, what I want is a signal to line converter, IE:

https://www.amazon.com/Speaker-Level-Converter-Adaptor-Control/dp/B007VTMSEO

...which takes the output meant for speakers and converts it to a lower signal I can use to input into the other amp.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



I have a hard time believing any amp made since the 1970s would not have the ability to record to tape from radio, but I suppose there might be some out there.

HKR
Jan 13, 2006

there is no universe where duke nukem would not be a trans ally



CaptainSarcastic posted:

Do you have enough RCA cables? Because I'm pretty sure what I suggested would work fine, as long as the radio is getting signal. Radio amp RCA from tape out to AUX in on new amp, set radio amp as though you were recording radio to tape (whatever the combo of switches might be on that specific device) and set new amp to play from AUX.

the newer amp listed does not have any line outs, only speaker outs.

George RR Fartin
Apr 16, 2003




I have been using the wrong terminology; the older amp is really just a receiver - there's only inputs, levels, outputs and two power ports for daisy chaining peripherals into. I do have a cassette deck I can chuck on top that connects normally that I could try that with though, so it's worth a shot.

EDIT: checked, and I don't know that it'd work with the cassette deck. It only has two RCA in, two RCA out. Nothing else as input. the tape deck is a Denon DRM-550 if that helps at all.

I don't mind at all just getting the line converter; it's ten bucks and should do the trick.

SUPER EDIT: HKR cut to it accurately and succinctly while I was flailing around: it's not the inputs so much as the outputs. All I've got to work with is speaker wire output from the "radio" amplifier.

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wa27
Jan 15, 2007

George RR Fartin posted:

Looking around, what I want is a signal to line converter, IE:

https://www.amazon.com/Speaker-Level-Converter-Adaptor-Control/dp/B007VTMSEO

...which takes the output meant for speakers and converts it to a lower signal I can use to input into the other amp.

This is exactly what you'd need. Though as you said, I'd keep an eye out for a tuner or receiver that has a real line out to replace that thing some day. A cassette deck won't help you because it doesn't do any amplification or receiving of its own.

I actually have the matching NAD fm tuner for that amp, but it would probably wouldn't be worth shipping to you. However, there are plenty of vintage stereo tuners out there for fairly cheap. For example: https://www.ebay.com/itm/385310266580

edit: and honestly, vintage FM receivers generally seem to have better reception than the tuner boards in cheap modern devices.

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George RR Fartin
Apr 16, 2003




Agreed, I'd like to have something that actually suits the amp. The modern amp with the radio is fine for now, but its antenna sucks rear end (just a single monowire apiece for FM and AM), and while it was probably considered to be a fancy feature to include, having a random lady say BLOOOTOOF MODE every time I switch the inputs around is actually quite annoying.

At one point I had all kinds of things going to get the signal to work well for the one college station I actually like to leave on and I had to move poo poo around to get a better signal depending on the weather. An outdoor antenna would make more sense, but yeah....I can wait until I see something better out in the wild or someone tells me they're chucking theirs (which is how I got the tape deck and its gigantic partner, the 5 CD changer. That's only not a part of the stack because it's all resting precariously on a really shoddy bookshelf and as amusing as "crushed by dumb old equipment he felt like using" is for an obituary, I'd love to avoid that).

snorch
Jul 27, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w6XWwlcjrk

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

George RR Fartin posted:

BLOOOTOOF MODE

DankPods spotted

On the topic of FireWire flash drives, I used to work with a guy who had one to use with his G3 Mac. He was using it well into the late 2000s for our company’s marketing material, and stuck with it for so long because he had a lot of graphic design software he didn’t feel like upgrading.

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.
I sent Clint from LGR an invite code about a month ago, along with a link to this thread and the obsolete tech thread. Invited them to come say hi. No results yet :(

Blue Moonlight
Apr 28, 2005
Bitter and Sarcastic

Desert Bus posted:

I sent Clint from LGR an invite code about a month ago, along with a link to this thread and the obsolete tech thread. Invited them to come say hi. No results yet :(

Or he was already a goon and is watching, silently. :tinfoil:

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

Desert Bus posted:

I sent Clint from LGR an invite code about a month ago, along with a link to this thread and the obsolete tech thread. Invited them to come say hi. No results yet :(
It would be cool if he showed up but I'm sure his plate is more than full with what he has now.

Besides, a guy that does reviews on old tech on a bulletin board built from the same old tech from that era but in the present day... I'm sure would disrupt some space/time continuum ?

Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.
I have spent more money on worse things.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.
Speaking of LGR: does anyone know if the stuff people send for review or those blerb videos can be... well, returned to the sender? I have a few mini-trackballs that I haven't seen on YouTube, and they seem like something he'd feature. The catch is that I need them back :v:

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Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Blue Moonlight posted:

Or he was already a goon and is watching, silently. :tinfoil:

Clint spotted

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