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Toxic Fart Syndrome posted:There is no wrong way to play this game: it is incredibly chill. The wrong way to play the game is to go on the official forums and actively campaign to make the game worse.
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Mr. Crow posted:Oh god I've forgone my X52 pro in favor of the couch and a controller and I think I'm having fun again? I got through the tutorials and half of the challenge missions and it was actually pretty good on a controller? I realized I couldn't bring myself to keep playing at my desk, felt to much like work and it was a pain in the rear end constantly going from hotas to kb+m and also the constant downtime from SC, but lazing about on the couch it is a completely different experience (to me). There's an option somewhere that lets you put roll and yaw on the same stick. It's a little weird but it works for me once I got used to it. It'll make small horizontal movements yaw and bigger movements roll. You can also set it as an alternate control scheme to toggle it on and off with R3.
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IMO, bind pitch and yaw to the same stick if you want to be able to aim at stuff, put roll and vertical thrust together on the other. Then handle lateral thrust with the stick clicks, unless you have a fancy pad with back paddles. A good tip to access useful throttle controls is to set it to move in 25% increments per click, with a hold input to max forward and max reverse quickly, that way you don't have to suffer the incredibly slow digital slider.
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Gamepad user here, +1 on pitch+yaw on left, roll+vert thrust on right. I use back paddles for lateral thrust, and E:D has a handy built-in thing where you can use button combos for things so all my face buttons are "hold plus" buttons-- X+RT for 100% throttle, X+RB for 75%, X+LB for 0%, X+LT for full reverse, etc. You can go pretty hog wild with getting nearly everything you need pretty close at hand, although you'll probably want a cheat sheet on hand until the muscle memory latches in.
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Jan 4, 2023 11:15
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Something they added pretty recently is the ability to just hold a single button and have it register a long press as a different input. It's pretty useful. I think they might have double-taps as well? Can't remember.
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Jan 4, 2023 14:40
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You can alsso switch between normal and alternate controls, which I abused the gently caress out of back in console-days. I managed to nearly double the possible inputs by making one button the dedicated toggle between both control schemes. Should also work on PC, imho.
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Jan 4, 2023 15:45
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Tommy the Newt posted:Something they added pretty recently is the ability to just hold a single button and have it register a long press as a different input. It's pretty useful. I think they might have double-taps as well? Can't remember. I just see myself blasting all my heat sinks while I'm panicking for whatever reason
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Jan 4, 2023 17:30
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Inspector Hound posted:I just see myself blasting all my heat sinks while I'm panicking for whatever reason could be worse, could be when Eject All Cargo was inexplicably hotkey'd right next to your other controls
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Jan 4, 2023 18:57
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or the first time you discover silent running!
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Tommy the Newt posted:IMO, bind pitch and yaw to the same stick if you want to be able to aim at stuff, put roll and vertical thrust together on the other. Then handle lateral thrust with the stick clicks, unless you have a fancy pad with back paddles. A good tip to access useful throttle controls is to set it to move in 25% increments per click, with a hold input to max forward and max reverse quickly, that way you don't have to suffer the incredibly slow digital slider. Swapping roll and yaw made a huge difference, and the tips about 25% throttle increments and hold max were gold too. I've noticed a lot of the accessory stuff (shield cells) aren't bound by default will try and get the existing basic functionality memorized then figure out some combinations for those. Or maybe ill just keep it chill on their own fire groups since I have no intention of PvPing anyway so responsiveness isn't a huge issue.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:or the first time you discover silent running! It should really change the lighting in the cockpit or something, maybe go all red like a submarine movie, that little "silent running, you're slowly killing yourself" light on the dashboard is not enough.
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Is anyone else encountering a lot of desktop crashes since the last few patches? The crashes go straight to desktop and don't show error messages. The crashes are occurring when I'm in ship doing exobiology on planets/moons. Mountains seem to make the issue worse. I tried validating the game files which helped for a while, but now the crashes returned. I also tried lower graphic settings. I didn't see any ongoing issues on their bug tracker so it's probably my computer's fault...
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Jan 5, 2023 19:27
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Anyone had any issues getting an x52 pro working on win 11?
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I have win 11 and a x52 pro, but it's been a month so I forget what steps I had to take to get it working. You installed the software for it? https://support.logi.com/hc/en-us/articles/360024847013--Downloads-X52-Space-Flight-H-O-T-A-S- When you get to the nightmare of "why doesn't the i button work?????", the key is to go and disable "clutch". It's in the old joystick control panel, which still exists on windows 11 because lol. From other places: Run joy.cpl, select your X52, go to Properties, choose MFD tab, untick Enable Clutch Mode and OK
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Trying to log in for the first time since last Summer. Launcher says I need to verify, emails me a code, I put the code in and it tells me I need to buy the game. I own Horizons and the launcher seems to be set to Horizons, not Odyssey, but idk how things work now. I guess not very well. Just got an x52 (non-pro) myself, and I wanted to play around with it. edit re above post - do you recommend installing the software? I saw some people complaining (not-ED specific) that the logitech software was more buggy than just using whatever drivers/software windows sets up by default. (I'm not on Win 11 though)
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Jan 6, 2023 00:34
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RVT posted:Trying to log in for the first time since last Summer. Launcher says I need to verify, emails me a code, I put the code in and it tells me I need to buy the game. I own Horizons and the launcher seems to be set to Horizons, not Odyssey, but idk how things work now. I guess not very well. I ran into this issue once — restarting my computer did the trick
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RVT posted:edit re above post - do you recommend installing the software? I saw some people complaining (not-ED specific) that the logitech software was more buggy than just using whatever drivers/software windows sets up by default. (I'm not on Win 11 though) I guess I didn't realize it wasn't an option, and I'm not sure I ever tried it without. Once I got the software configured, it seems to run fine. Plus you can actually make the screen show what buttons do when you press them if you go through and configure it all. Side note, I had to laugh when I realized the flight stick modelled in the game is literally an x52. Unless it dynamically switches that out based on what controller you have plugged in.
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ZeusCannon posted:Anyone had any issues getting an x52 pro working on win 11? RVT posted:Trying to log in for the first time since last Summer. Launcher says I need to verify, emails me a code, I put the code in and it tells me I need to buy the game. I own Horizons and the launcher seems to be set to Horizons, not Odyssey, but idk how things work now. I guess not very well. In Elite Dangerous, there (used to be) a hard limit on the number of buttons you can have assigned per joystick, and since the X52 and X52 Pro are connected via the same port, you can sometimes run into that. I will say, though, that even if that limit is removed, the one argument to still use the software is that it allows you to setup quick-pipping so that you can make pip management much easier on yourself. In addition to that you can also go completely mental (like I did) and set up different modes (although this may be a X52 Pro-only feature, since I'm not sure the X52 has the mode switcher).
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God drat I cant believe how buggy this stupid game still is
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Mr. Crow posted:God drat I cant believe how buggy this stupid game still is Well the thargoids are invading so yeah
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Mr. Crow posted:God drat I cant believe how buggy this stupid game still is It's really tragic that it's actually getting worse. The game's always been extremely janky in more-or-less obvious ways throughout its lifespan but the Horizons -> Odyssey hop was grim. It'd have been unfathomable to many of us in 2018 that we'd start thinking of Horizons as the stable, polished mode. To be fair the biggest offender for most people is networking which has always been terrible, probably to a similar degree, but they have increased the amount of content that relies on/encourages it so it looks worse and worse over time too.
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I had a sudden fear that we were talking about two very similar x52 pros since everyone is talking logitech and mine is branded saitek but they appear the same. I assume something happened in the past years I missed
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ZeusCannon posted:I had a sudden fear that we were talking about two very similar x52 pros since everyone is talking logitech and mine is branded saitek but they appear the same. I assume something happened in the past years I missed I think Saitek died.
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Logitech bought Saitek. My x52 is branded logitech but I don't think they did anything to the actual hardware other than slap a G on it.
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Yeah Logitch is just using the same old Saitek software. Which isn't great, but it's not like Logitech's other software is... good.
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Tommy the Newt posted:It's really tragic that it's actually getting worse. The game's always been extremely janky in more-or-less obvious ways throughout its lifespan but the Horizons -> Odyssey hop was grim. It'd have been unfathomable to many of us in 2018 that we'd start thinking of Horizons as the stable, polished mode. Theyre totally doing the one live platform / legacy mode to focus on the game and fix bugs and add focused new content right? Right? 
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Mr. Crow posted:Theyre totally doing the one live platform / legacy mode to focus on the game and fix bugs and add focused new content right? They accidentally found out they can monetize bugs via "loving up old cosmetic skins" followed by "sell  new skins that look like the old cosmetics before they were broken"
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Muscle Tracer posted:Yeah Logitch is just using the same old Saitek software. Which isn't great, but it's not like Logitech's other software is... good. So, it neither Logitech nor Saitek made the hardware, were did it come from? 
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:Gamepad user here, +1 on pitch+yaw on left, roll+vert thrust on right. I use back paddles for lateral thrust, and E:D has a handy built-in thing where you can use button combos for things so all my face buttons are "hold plus" buttons-- X+RT for 100% throttle, X+RB for 75%, X+LB for 0%, X+LT for full reverse, etc. You can go pretty hog wild with getting nearly everything you need pretty close at hand, although you'll probably want a cheat sheet on hand until the muscle memory latches in. I'm back to playing this terrible game and my ancient HOTAS X has twist drift. So I'm learning to use an elite series 2 and this sounds like something to try, stick clicks aren't great for heavy use.
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Is there a keybind for the supercruise assist? Or anyway to not have to go to contacts and select it from the sub menu?
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Libluini posted:So, it neither Logitech nor Saitek made the hardware, were did it come from? Mr. Crow posted:Is there a keybind for the supercruise assist? Or anyway to not have to go to contacts and select it from the sub menu?
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BlankSystemDaemon posted:From someone's butt, OP. can confirm, I'm using a Logitech joystick
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Mr. Crow posted:Is there a keybind for the supercruise assist? Or anyway to not have to go to contacts and select it from the sub menu? Not by default unless you're using a 360 controller which has it as some dual key bind or a hotas 4/x which has it as uh, triangle+hat left?
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Cutedge posted:Not by default unless you're using a 360 controller which has it as some dual key bind or a hotas 4/x which has it as uh, triangle+hat left? Where is the keybind? Thats basically what I was asking I cant find it. Also stupid detail I don't know why I never noticed but when you're jumping to another system it actually is centered on a distant star fron the skybox! Also, some of you may or may not have noticed but the star you're jumping to is accurately reflected in witch space. Its most obvious for white dwarfs as there is a bright white/blue line going across the screen and the star is noticeably brighter than other stars, but you can tell with other as well, e.g. some pink stars will show a pink hue. And since I'm posting stupid details, star ports entrances are always pointing toward the object they orbit, and when targeted there are arrows on the HUD targetting starport object pointing towards the entrance as well. Convenient for coriolises. Coriolis's? Coriolie?
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Mr. Crow posted:Where is the keybind? Thats basically what I was asking I cant find it. There is no keybind for supercruise assist.
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I'm an idiot, my brain swapped out "supercruise assist" with "enter supercruise" Supercruise assist would be a pretty drat nice thing to be able to bind 
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quote:There should be a hunger/thirst mechanic that you satisfy by synthesizing exobiology you find on planets
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Gonna gobble up those dick plants
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Whats a good profit / ton for trading? I've made a few hundred mil doing a 30k/ton route but am not really sure if this is "good" as far as space trucking.
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Mr. Crow posted:Whats a good profit / ton for trading? I've made a few hundred mil doing a 30k/ton route but am not really sure if this is "good" as far as space trucking. https://inara.cz/elite/market-traderoutes/ You can search them with Inara, 30k seems to be at the top end right now. I haven't hauled in a long time but you used to be able to get up to 50k/t occasionally, it varies though and I don't know if there have been any recent changes to markets to make them more or less likely to pop up.
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