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mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016
Yeah I mean uhhhhhh I can stop the whirlwind of data whizzing through my head at all times? That'd be rad...

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Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


does it also quiet tinnitus? Mines gotten to an annoying level of late

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

ive decided its time I learned to summon birds

is CE5 legitimately worth trying? whats the best way to do so if it is. I'm not going to pay Greer for a lovely app that's for sure

typhus
Apr 7, 2004

Fun Shoe
For me the silencing of the endless stream of self-hating chatter in my head was the most miraculous part of it. My mental illness manifests in a variety of ways but that was the one that I couldn't therapy my way out of -- like even if I knew how to deal with it with CBT, it was still this never-ending stream of poo poo that infected every experience I had. Like the self-judgment was so constant and ferocious that eventually I couldn't even take my own sadness seriously because I'd be too busy critiquing it while also being miserable.

Anyway, that poo poo slowed after one session and halted entirely by the third. I'm two months outside of my full course of treatment and it's still holding steady. It perks up from time to time, but what's really wild is after having a couple of months of cooperative executive function you get really good at dealing with it. Those intrusive thoughts feel completely foreign to me now and I'm able to immediately set it aside. Feels like a loving superpower and is benefitting me in ways I didn't expect. I'm thinking clearer and quicker, recalling better, just generally just feeling more in command of my mind. There's no more membrane of judgment between me and my perceptions of the world. I'm not watching the typhus show that sucks and is garbage and that I constantly have to be making GBS threads on.

I really can't underscore how miserable this poo poo had made me, and for so long. It was the most bulletproof manifestation of my mental illness and k loving ate it for breakfast after three trips. And as of two weeks ago, I'm no longer on an SSRI, which feels pretty loving rad after twenty years.

Edit: I could swear it's made a difference (maybe blunting the perceived volume by like 10-15%?) in my tinnitus, but the tinnitus is definitely still there.

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Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Armadillo Tank posted:

life as we know it on earth uses water as a solvent on the surface

generally it can't support it for long if its always above 45 C (unlike deserts)

There will be survivors in the ocean but i don't know enough if those are "permanent" changes or just set you back 1 billion years BC changes.

(again the ocean might rebound and then lead to a surface rebound, it could also become a mild, like covid, venus)

Imo these outcomes are overly doomer because they ignore the fact that industry will collapse and we literally can't keep emitting as we are indefinitely but I could be wrong. Don't want to enter the psychic damage thread to find out though.

I'm also of the opinion that a global nuclear exchange is right around the corner and will likely give life on earth as a whole some reprieve.

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

Slavvy posted:

Imo these outcomes are overly doomer because they ignore the fact that industry will collapse and we literally can't keep emitting as we are indefinitely but I could be wrong. Don't want to enter the psychic damage thread to find out though.

I'm also of the opinion that a global nuclear exchange is right around the corner and will likely give life on earth as a whole some reprieve.

Please elaborate the bolded

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008



Slavvy posted:

Imo these outcomes are overly doomer because they ignore the fact that industry will collapse and we literally can't keep emitting as we are indefinitely but I could be wrong. Don't want to enter the psychic damage thread to find out though.

I'm also of the opinion that a global nuclear exchange is right around the corner and will likely give life on earth as a whole some reprieve.

where do you see nuclear war coming from?
i guess it doesnt matter once they fly how we got there but the scenario is fascinating anyway

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

The American empire and their NATO vassals will not go quietly into the night and they certainly won't submit peacefully to a communist power. We are well past the point of steely eyed cold warriors who remember ww2 running the show (and even in those days we got remarkably close to apocalypse several times despite everyone's best efforts), they're all dead and now the button is in the hands of the failsons of the failsons, who are at Marie Antoinette levels of fart huffing delusion, self importance and ignorance of material reality. Imo the specifics aren't that important but fwiw I'd wager on some kind of conflict over Taiwan or the south china sea being provoked, then things escalating from there either intentionally or not. I can't see this taking longer than a couple of decades as the empire is crumbling fast and biosphere collapse will only hasten the fall.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Well, that's the thing about nuclear apocalypses

You only have to be right once

Though you don't get a lot of time for saying "I told you so"

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

What are you talking about my bunker and my tinfoil hats all have I told you so written on them in big letters

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008



yeah thats a pretty grim and sadly accurate summary, at least it feels that way

my own guess would be an AI or 'dead hand' type thing deciding that its time and away we go

D-Pad
Jun 28, 2006

What do you think would happen if we all launched the nukes and the birds shot them down/disabled them without saying or doing anything else. Just appeared, zapped them, and went back to being inscrutable.

It wouldn't surprise me if it just immediately kicked off WW3 as everybody with a grudge realized nukes were no longer backstopping the global order.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

D-Pad posted:

What do you think would happen if we all launched the nukes and the birds shot them down/disabled them without saying or doing anything else. Just appeared, zapped them, and went back to being inscrutable.

It wouldn't surprise me if it just immediately kicked off WW3 as everybody with a grudge realized nukes were no longer backstopping the global order.

Something like that yeah, but also who knows? Really depends on the context, there might be a fear of further provocations depending on the details.

Maybe that's the goal and the nukes are a novel invention that has kept the situation in stasis for longer than 'natural' and prevented our ascension to luxury gay space communism via the crucible of colossal destruction and suffering.

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008



birds dont seem to care about chemical weapons that ive heard so p much WW2 again but with fancier guns and way more sarin

actually why stop there though? if they intervened in that way, ruining all the nukes because we attempted mass use of them, if i was radar id be arguing for eradication on the grounds that we would certainly use them against birds given the chance

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Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?
The big men in charge will neve nuke the world because it's not good for business

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Pontificating rear end posted:

The big men in charge will neve nuke the world because it's not good for business

There are no big men in charge, a mindless system with no regard for human life is in charge. Big men who don't want to push the button are selected out by the system long before they can get within reach of said button. Nuclear war might be bad for business, who knows? But communism is fatal.

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



Stanislav Petrova was the Russian officer who averted total nuclear holocaust back in 1983 by just lying to his CO, all because he didn't want to be the one to start ww3.

An article came out a few days ago highlighting how America's elite soldier caste is busy running drugs and human trafficking out of one of the various forts we have, probably Bragg.

I have no faith in this horrific military system or the people at the helm. They openly lust for war and I'm sure there's plenty of old gently caress Reaganites in charge who still think Russia is the magical biblical city that is supposed to burn in hellfire to start the end days.


The planet is dying because we're killing it. We're killing everything, including ourselves.

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?

Slavvy posted:

There are no big men in charge, a mindless system with no regard for human life is in charge.

ya but they have regard for money

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?
nuclear holocaust is a doomer fantasy lets be real

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



I don't know anyone who considers that a fantasy.
There have been 2,056 nuclear weapons detonated on earth officially. It's not hard to believe another will go off at some point if poo poo goes south.

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?
I dunno I guess it's like a way to cope for depressive people by convincing themselves of a fantasy where the whole world will explode one day
when in reality it will simply carry on without them

Sleekly
Aug 21, 2008



i dont think anyone thinks the whole world will explode either tbh, i see the aftermath as being a hellscape for survivors as loss of supply chains bite but itd be plenty survivable for lots of people

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

nuclear war will just be israel nuking iran or some poo poo, america and russia aren't going to annihilate the planet

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


the us will false flag itself, glass russia, and make a dystopia that's all the dumb parts of judge dredd + everything that sucks about brave new world + way more national socialism

Gravid Topiary
Feb 16, 2012

Slavvy posted:

Imo these outcomes are overly doomer because they ignore the fact that industry will collapse and we literally can't keep emitting as we are indefinitely but I could be wrong. Don't want to enter the psychic damage thread to find out though.
reading climate stuff published in the last few months is like watching a video of someone being murdered with a hammer over and over again, UFOs are way more fun yeah

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



Riot Bimbo posted:

the us will false flag itself, glass russia, and make a dystopia that's all the dumb parts of judge dredd + everything that sucks about brave new world + way more national socialism

Honestly accurate

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Wheeee posted:

nuclear war will just be israel nuking iran or some poo poo, america and russia aren't going to annihilate the planet

How can you of all people still think there are adults running the show?

At that point in the last couple of decades have cooler heads prevailed and everyone done the sensible thing?

Anyway they won't be nuking Russia, they'll be nuking china

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Pontificating rear end posted:

I dunno I guess it's like a way to cope for depressive people by convincing themselves of a fantasy where the whole world will explode one day
when in reality it will simply carry on without them

It's a testament to how hosed up everything is that given biosphere collapse chat (which I desperately try to avoid, I don't know if it makes the dark rumours that escape that thread more or less copeable with) I'm now crossing my fingers for nuclear war

This isn't really how I wanted to start my day lol

I really hope all that NDE poo poo is real because that is definitely my Actual Cope

EDIT oooh yeah, there it is, there's that Existential Despair lol

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SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost

Barry Foster posted:

It's a testament to how hosed up everything is that given biosphere collapse chat (which I desperately try to avoid, I don't know if it makes the dark rumours that escape that thread more or less copeable with) I'm now crossing my fingers for nuclear war

This isn't really how I wanted to start my day lol

I really hope all that NDE poo poo is real because that is definitely my Actual Cope

My main problem with the survivance of consciousness is that I don't know if it's worse that everything ends at death, or that my awareness will continue for eternity until the heat death of the universe.

My only hope is that if our consciousness survives, it gets absorbed in a greater consciousness and I cease to exist as an individual, leaving the problem of eternal boredom to God.

e: or maybe that time doesn't exist anymore for pure consciousness, so that boredom isn't an issue anymore.

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Tighclops
Jan 23, 2008

Unable to deal with it


Grimey Drawer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Srqyd8B9gE

been watching this continuously for months it's fine I'm fine everything is fine!

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

e: or maybe that time doesn't exist anymore for pure consciousness, so that boredom isn't an issue anymore.

Accounts tend to suggest it's this, plus also not being an animal consciousness anymore boredom is kind of a human problem

Pontificating Ass
Aug 2, 2002

What Doth Life?
Well I gotta say when it comes to the end of the world man I dont even care (for myself)
Like do y'all really have existential dread or is it just dread for society, which is more understandable. If other people are controlling things that will affect your life and you're powerless, then there's a constant pressure on you, which is a pervasive feeling in society nowadays. Like it wouldn't be despair, but status anxiety or something like that

Then again, despite my general morosity, I think society will keep improving tbh im a noob

LIVE AMMO COSPLAY
Feb 3, 2006

Get busy living or get busy dying, imo

Riot Bimbo
Dec 28, 2006


not scared of death and the collapse of the world is probably a good thing on a sufficiently large time scale, and I am alienated from levers of power almost completely.

the only thing left is to fret & have anxiety over what's unknown, but all of that's a spiritual mine field. The world can end because it still won't be our end, but if samsara exists and is Bad, Actually? Wow! That's really something that could send one into a state of catatonic melancholia. Just some real poo poo to never leave your bed over.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

Pontificating rear end posted:

Well I gotta say when it comes to the end of the world man I dont even care (for myself)
Like do y'all really have existential dread or is it just dread for society, which is more understandable. If other people are controlling things that will affect your life and you're powerless, then there's a constant pressure on you, which is a pervasive feeling in society nowadays. Like it wouldn't be despair, but status anxiety or something like that

Then again, despite my general morosity, I think society will keep improving tbh im a noob

I'm sad about the beautiful non-human world that will be at best hopelessly despoiled and at worst absolutely destroyed. Plus I'm sad for the hundreds of millions/billions who are going to suffer and die in the short to medium term future because of climate change. I'm sad for my beloved nieces, who will never know a world that isn't actively ending, and who will probably also live short, painful and terrifying lives, and I'm sad that there's little to nothing I can do about that. I'm sad for myself, still, even now, because this isn't how I imagined my future or the world's future to be, and I mourn the time when I still felt like things were probably going to be Mostly OK.

I'm sad that therapy has led me to the end of the nihilistic hedonism that I've been using to cope so far - now that poo poo doesn't work - and I'm supposed to find some sort of hope or strength to draw on to keep going, which presumably does exist, because other people manage, but for now I'm in the depths of the valley between these two poles

I'm not always sad, but I'm sad a lot of the time, and I can't really deny it to myself anymore. So it goes

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost

Barry Foster posted:

I'm sad about the beautiful non-human world that will be at best hopelessly despoiled and at worst absolutely destroyed. Plus I'm sad for the hundreds of millions/billions who are going to suffer and die in the short to medium term future because of climate change. I'm sad for my beloved nieces, who will never know a world that isn't actively ending, and who will probably also live short, painful and terrifying lives, and I'm sad that there's little to nothing I can do about that. I'm sad for myself, still, even now, because this isn't how I imagined my future or the world's future to be, and I mourn the time when I still felt like things were probably going to be Mostly OK.

I'm sad that therapy has led me to the end of the nihilistic hedonism that I've been using to cope so far - now that poo poo doesn't work - and I'm supposed to find some sort of hope or strength to draw on to keep going, which presumably does exist, because other people manage, but for now I'm in the depths of the valley between these two poles

I'm not always sad, but I'm sad a lot of the time, and I can't really deny it to myself anymore. So it goes

Being sad means you at least have emotions and care. That you love things and have empathy for people. I know for some people it can become so much that depression kicks in and with it, despair and apathy, but a small amount of sad isn't a bad thing. It's definitily better than nihilism.

Sure not feeling anything is more comfortable but it's definitely not healthy on the long term and comes with its own set of problems. For exemple the feelings you have for your nieces can also spark a desire to bring them more joy, which is a good thing.

It sucks being sad, and it sucks suffering, and I sympathize with you. But I also want you to realize that your sadness comes from the all the love you have for the things and people around you, so at least your heart seems to be in the right place, more so than the majority of people who manage to put these feelings on "ignore" most of the time to be able to function normally day to day.

I don't know what I'm trying to achieve with this post. I don't think it's going to help you a lot. Just wanted you to realize that the sadness that is turning your life into hell comes from a beautiful feeling origninally. Not something that should be removed. More something that should be seen as an invitation to act according to it (spending good times with the nieces, helping those around us who suffer, planting seeds in people's minds about the limits of our current lifestyle, showing by example how to consume less and reuse more, etc) so you feel less powerless

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

Being sad means you at least have emotions and care. That you love things and have empathy for people. I know for some people it can become so much that depression kicks in and with it, despair and apathy, but a small amount of sad isn't a bad thing. It's definitily better than nihilism.

Sure not feeling anything is more comfortable but it's definitely not healthy on the long term and comes with its own set of problems. For exemple the feelings you have for your nieces can also spark a desire to bring them more joy, which is a good thing.

It sucks being sad, and it sucks suffering, and I sympathize with you. But I also want you to realize that your sadness comes from the all the love you have for the things and people around you, so at least your heart seems to be in the right place, more so than the majority of people who manage to put these feelings on "ignore" most of the time to be able to function normally day to day.

I don't know what I'm trying to achieve with this post. I don't think it's going to help you a lot. Just wanted you to realize that the sadness that is turning your life into hell comes from a beautiful feeling origninally. Not something that should be removed. More something that should be seen as an invitation to act according to it (spending good times with the nieces, helping those around us who suffer, planting seeds in people's minds about the limits of our current lifestyle, showing by example how to consume less and reuse more, etc) so you feel less powerless

Nah, I appreciate it a lot, genuinely :glomp:

For a long time I was absolutely in the despair and apathy space, although I could never quite go so far into it that I could totally ditch empathy, even though I really wanted to at times. Now I'm in a much more precarious place (again, thanks to therapy, lol) where I'm trying to stop blanket denying my feelings and start to learn to recognise them again and respond to them appropriately, and in so doing start to rebuild my life (which skidded and then crashed to a standstill over the last seven years or so) and rejoin society in ways that don't betray my very real sorrow and terror. I still really suck and am an enormous hypocrite and often I'm not really honestly working on that but sometimes I am honestly working on working on it lol

No need to worry about me, though, I'm just in a weird spot today where I'm recovering from flu and from being around my parents for too long over the holidays, haha. That + nightmares last night + immediate exposure to bad news just means I'm a bit of a grumpy SOB at the moment

Again, though, thank you.

endocriminologist
May 17, 2021

SUFFERINGLOVER:press send + soul + earth lol
inncntsoul:ok

(inncntsoul has left the game)

ARCHON_MASTER:lol
MAMMON69:lol
My main brain problem atm is that I get despondent jf anyone I love is sad or one kf the pets seems dissatisfied. Maybe that's the cat poo brain worm tho

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost
I think one of the biggest challenge of our time is our constant exposure to not only to our direct surroundings but the whole planet, and since media seem to focus mainly on bad news, the best thing we can do for our mental health is to turn off the news from time to time.

Not to escape reality, but to help refocus on that part of reality that we can actually improve: our lives and how we interact with the people and things around us.

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Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

I think one of the biggest challenge of our time is our constant exposure to not only to our direct surroundings but the whole planet, and since media seem to focus mainly on bad news, the best thing we can do for our mental health is to turn off the news from time to time.

Not to escape reality, but to help refocus on that part of reality that we can actually improve: our lives and how we interact with the people and things around us.

Absolutely.

I need to get better at avoiding certain threads on SA, to be honest (and probably using SA less in general, too). Being in the habit of checking the Epstein or Reactionary or Musk or any UK thread repeatedly throughout the day is definitely like taking a nail file to my mental health. Not this thread, though (usually) - this thread might be making me a Crazy Person but I think I'm honestly happier that way.

Over the holidays I felt a very strong desire to just swear off the internet entirely and return to analogue monke, though I recognise that kind of extreme is pretty unrealistic.

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