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Probably too much thought into this: I feel like the biggest issue with Ubisoft is that they began splitting themselves between some of the largest AAA titles, in terms of content packed in with the recent ACs, where even folks who I know that stick up for them say "do not do everything, do not do all the sidequests", where comments that an extra 20+ hour campaign coming after the main game is seen as a threat... and then the other side of the company for ages now has been "We put out a lot of B- and C-tier titles on Switch, maybe it'll get ported to something else", and those latter ones have been really, really carved back in recent years as the larger stuff takes on more manpower and the corporation as a whole gets dragged into larger and larger boondoggles taking people away from anything. Skull & Bones, Beyond Good and Evil 2, these have been kicking around for a bit now, and meanwhile there's the sex pest/management problems causing more chaos internally... The first sign to me that there were gonna be problems coming down the road was when they expanded some of those smaller titles to PC for a year or so, up to and including Just Dance for a year, and then got terminally afraid that they'd destroyed their money printing machine because people could mod JD on a computer, so they shuttered it and never brought it back. Nevermind that there's a thriving Switch community for the same thing! Feels Villeneuve posted:far cry 2 was a legitimately innovative game that did a ton of cool stuff in a way that's shocking for ubisoft even if there are some real tedious flaws Also this. I'm so mad that the closest thing we got to picking up that torch was MGSV, nearly a decade later, a game that had its own problems but was still a cool gem which also screams "haha, never agaiiiiiiiiin" as it fades like a photo in Back to the Future
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PantsBandit posted:I remember seeing write-ups for Far Cry 3 and thinking "holy poo poo these guys are doing something completely new and incredible!" I honestly feel they were in a pretty sweet spot in around 2013-2014. Asscreed Black Flag and Far Cry 3 genuinely didn’t feel stale, but on top of that there were small projects like Child of Light, Valiant Hearts and Might and Magic X that I really enjoyed.
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Jan 11, 2023 22:56
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Harvey Smith recently invoked Far Cry 2 when talking about Redfall and I’m curious to find out what that means.
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Jan 11, 2023 22:57
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far cry 3's most innovative feature was having a minor character deliver a Joker Monologue in a scene that exists to get E3 buzz
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Jan 11, 2023 22:57
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By the way, WD: Legion was Clint Hocking's first game with Ubisoft since he left after Far Cry 2.
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Jan 11, 2023 22:58
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ubisoft trying to be edgy was really funny, does anyone remember the marketing for canceled project Rainbow 6 Patriots
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Jan 11, 2023 22:59
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I think they realized they crossed a line. They've had a number of controversial looking things since, but it always turns out to actually be quite safe.
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Jan 11, 2023 23:01
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Feels Villeneuve posted:ubisoft trying to be edgy was really funny, does anyone remember the marketing for canceled project Rainbow 6 Patriots is that the one where the villains are BLM or is it a different one?
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Jan 11, 2023 23:05
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K8.0 posted:FC3 was mildly to moderately innovative, FC2 is the one they deserve more credit for. It failed in a lot of ways but actually did some cool stuff for its time. Even within Assassin's Creed it was a slow decline into the Ubisoft formula we know today. I don't think the complete giving up of any sort of innovation sets in until, like, Unity.
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Jan 11, 2023 23:07
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:is that the one where the villains are BLM or is it a different one? If it's the one I'm thinking of, it was that you were gunning for CEOs, of banks! Or the people in the lone trailer were. I do not believe that game got far after that initial announcement.
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secretly best girl posted:If it's the one I'm thinking of, it was that you were gunning for CEOs, of banks! Or the people in the lone trailer were. I do not believe that game got far after that initial announcement. the amount of free press they'd get for the outrage would be worth millions if they'd actually commit to any of the subversive ideas their games flirt with at a 12 year old level
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Deakul posted:Sail Forth looks really promising too, seems to have a bit of everything that one could possibly want out of a new Sid Meier's Pirates. There was a post about it in the Fresh Releases thread: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3901275&pagenumber=122&perpage=40#post528627762
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victrix posted:the amount of free press they'd get for the outrage would be worth millions if they'd actually commit to any of the subversive ideas their games flirt with at a 12 year old level It turns out that a) I was indeed remembering this correctly and b) boy, they flirted even harder before killing it: quote:Team Rainbow is called to New York City to deal with a terrorist group calling itself the 'True Patriots'. Styling themselves as a populist militia group, the True Patriots have taken it upon themselves to act as judge, jury, and executioner on behalf and avenging the alleged victims of what they see as Wall Street corruption. To complicate the situation, the new leader of Team Rainbow is James Wolfe, a former Navy SEAL who believes ethics are irrelevant in dealing with the True Patriots. As Echo Leader, a man who looks up to Wolfe as a father figure, they must stop the True Patriots at all costs; even at the price of their own personal morality. And the trailer itself! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLhALiOnvs8
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:is that the one where the villains are BLM or is it a different one? e;fb I've never heard of the game before but just looking around online, it apparently focused on an domestic terrorist organization calling themselves "True Patriots...avenging the alleged victims of what they see as Wall Street corruption." "To complicate the situation, the new leader of Team Rainbow is James Wolfe, a former Navy SEAL who believes ethics are irrelevant in dealing with the True Patriots. As Echo Leader, a man who looks up to Wolfe as a father figure, they must stop the True Patriots at all costs; even at the price of their own personal morality." So I guess a terrorist group is killing bankers and financial executives and you're part of a Rainbow org run by a psychopath who will do whatever it takes to stop them and maintain the status quo.
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:Sid Meier's Pirates! Not an empty quote. Pirates! is a great game
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Didn't The Division 2 have a nearly identical problem as well, trying to make the enemies 'roving BLM antifa gangs'
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pentyne posted:Didn't The Division 2 have a nearly identical problem as well, trying to make the enemies 'roving BLM antifa gangs' Division's story is really cool on the surface and increasingly unhinged to a hilarious degree when you look closer
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very Tom Clancy now that I think about it
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turns out the politics of the government murder squad games are kinda hosed up
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:turns out the politics of the government murder squad games are kinda hosed up They should make a game that highlights those aspects.
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further evidence that Cruelty Squad owns
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The Division 1 did kind of lean into the idea that the titular Division weren't really the good guys at all, especially considering the endgame gang are just remnants of the first Division before your cell was activated and you make things worse everywhere you go. Anyway who cares shoot shoot shoot!!
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Did you have a gun? Did your neighbor?
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zoux posted:They should make a game that highlights those aspects. they made two! and did nothing with it the sequel was offensively milquetoast, because the first game you could almost mentally get on board with your gang of government sleeper agents murdering everyone to hold a crumbling society together but the sequel happens after it's very clear that there is no new normal, and they could have easily built a story looking at what it would mean to have that power against a range of ideologies-as-gangs in the world they did absolutely none of that, and the dlc to 2 was more storyline navel gazing I probably wouldn't give a poo poo at all, but as a game, division had a lot of really fun elements, an amazing engine, beautiful graphics, and an absolutely killer OST the writing? not so much
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Anno posted:Maybe there’s a better thread for this, but, parent goons of the Steam thread, can you recommend anything for my almost-5 year old to play? She’s been asking for awhile now to try games, and has played a little of this little of that, but I’d like something pretty much just for her that she can play either with a controller or mostly the mouse to help her develop those skills a bit. My kids love Trombone Champ.
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Tom Clancy's The Division 2 had the fake press release about Mexico building a wall to keep the infected American hordes from crossing their border, in 2019:  I'm also annoyed that we probably won't get another Michael Ironside Splinter Cell game, and his return as Sam Fischer will be limited to cameo appearances in the last two Ghost Recon games. Like someone already mentioned, Blacklist was pretty good and feels like they went back to Chaos Theory for inspiration, instead of making Conviction 2. I've said it before, but I think Splinter Cell: Conviction (and Hitman: Absolution) would have been better as a Jason Bourne game. Conviction is responsible for bringing Elias Toufexis into the series, though, so it's not entirely bad.
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Ghost Recon Wildlands is a fun game but Ubisoft had to apologise to the nation of Bolivia after they made it.
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Perestroika posted:Yeah, there are far too few capital ship spacegames around. Let me captain a single big-rear end battlecruiser, directing gun batteries, dispatching fighter squadrons, and launching giant missile salvoes. But it seems like almost all games that aim for that scale are either higher-scope strategy games or the endgame of clunky 4xs. I don't think they needed to move up to even that scale for a theoretical sequel. I would have been perfectly happy with mostly the same. And more of the terribly awesome/awesomely terrible soundtrack. I have been enjoying Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 for much the same reasons but that's kind of a 4X.
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Pwnstar posted:Ghost Recon Wildlands is a fun game but Ubisoft had to apologise to the nation of Bolivia after they made it. Yeah it's like a Far Cry story but played completely straight and set in a real country. Not great. Gameplay's alright though.
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ScootsMcSkirt posted:further evidence that Cruelty Squad owns it’s been almost 30 seconds since we had a cruelty squad is extremely good derail so let me chime in that cruelty squad is incredibly good and the people writing it off as a troll game are doing themselves a disservice
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victrix posted:very Tom Clancy now that I think about it I still every so often have to take a moment to remember just how batshit insane (and racist!) The Bear and The Dragon was, and then remember that I've been told his books got even MORE unhinged after that.
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Kibayasu posted:Every time I see a spaceship fighting/trading game it reminds me that I wish Rebel Galaxy kept with its 2D plane Age of Sail gameplay for the follow-up rather than trying to make Privateer again. Everyone always tries to make Privateer again. Perestroika posted:Yeah, there are far too few capital ship spacegames around. Let me captain a single big-rear end battlecruiser, directing gun batteries, dispatching fighter squadrons, and launching giant missile salvoes. But it seems like almost all games that aim for that scale are either higher-scope strategy games or the endgame of clunky 4xs. Oh is it finally time for me to bitch that I'm so tired of space games being the exact same mine/trade/shoot pirates/become pirate sandbox over and over and over? Once in a blue moon somebody makes a mission-based dogfight game instead, but unfortunately for me I'm not really into those either. The only games I can think of that do anything even slightly differently are Chrous (which is still a dogfighter), Hardspace Shipbreaker which is its own totally different niche, and then uhhhh...the space parts of the most recent Lego Star Wars? I guess there was Starlink, but that was all terrestrial pew pewing. Basically the same problem where they keep making super crunchy mech games whereas I want dumb fun mecha games. Like I guess a case can be made for Rebel Galaxy and Everspace 1 sort-of counting for reasons? I wouldn't count 6dof shooters, though. It's a shockingly shallow pool of choices either way.
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Out of curiosity, what type of space game are you wanting? It's just a setting, and there's not much to recommend it unless you're doing space-only stuff, which is typically ships going pew-pew. There's spacey role playing games, spacey 4X's, spacey RTS's, spacey FPS's (which you don't like), spacey ship tactics games (ditto), spacey roguelikes, so on so forth. I think only the RPGs didn't have lasers going pew. For controlling a single massive ship, there was Dreadnaught, and honestly F2P aside, I don't think it'd be a cool game anyways as controlling a single hero unit gets boring quickly.
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Pwnstar posted:Ghost Recon Wildlands is a fun game but Ubisoft had to apologise to the nation of Bolivia after they made it. Wildlands is a really fun shooter where you can set up all kinds of fun ambushes and action set pieces and 100 kill stealth ops. The squad mechanics are great, the map is huge, the weapons are essentially aesthetic so it’s about maneuver and finesse. Breakpoint is a loving disaster of a game where they took what was a cult favorite and tried to turn it into a looter shooter and ended having to retroactively invent something resembling the mechanics of the first one but didn’t quite get there. Not to mention bullet sponge drones loving everywhere and changing the player character from a nameless cypher into a somehow even broodier Marcus Fenix. They laid out a lot of cash to get John Berenthal to mocap the villain so every cutscene is these two dudes growling and grimacing at each other. Then a year ago they announce GR: Frontline and now it’s a multiplayer battle royale and the fan base went into a berserker rage and the backlash was so vitriolic they had to apologize, announce they were rethinking the direction of the game, and they ended up canceling the game six months later.
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sebmojo posted:check out the monomyth demo, it's basically deus ex dark souls. Simple and fairly short demo, but nails the vibe and doing immersive sim stuff in an intricately interlinked dark souls castle is surprisingly engrossing. the dev was aiming for end of 2022 but is still putting out regular progress videos - def worth wishlisting. Missed this from yesterday but thanks for posting, looks neat & I wishlisted.
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zoux posted:Wildlands is a really fun shooter where you can set up all kinds of fun ambushes and action set pieces and 100 kill stealth ops. The squad mechanics are great, the map is huge, the weapons are essentially aesthetic so it’s about maneuver and finesse. Breakpoint is a loving disaster of a game where they took what was a cult favorite and tried to turn it into a looter shooter and ended having to retroactively invent something resembling the mechanics of the first one but didn’t quite get there. Not to mention bullet sponge drones loving everywhere and changing the player character from a nameless cypher into a somehow even broodier Marcus Fenix. They laid out a lot of cash to get John Berenthal to mocap the villain so every cutscene is these two dudes growling and grimacing at each other. If I ever pick one up in a sale, which should I get?
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Serephina posted:Out of curiosity, what type of space game are you wanting? It's just a setting, and there's not much to recommend it unless you're doing space-only stuff, which is typically ships going pew-pew. Something full 3D with action and open world elements (or really just any kind of tangible exploration, doesn't have to be a full blown Ubisoft iconfest), but without relying on the same repeated sandbox formula where you toil away space trucking between generic space stations so you can afford to make numbers go up a tiny bit and exploration takes the form of "sometimes you see a pretty skybox". Like I want to zip my little ship inbetween the wreckage of some huge gently caress-off dreadnought to retrieve some cool bespoke weapon, then when pirates inevitably ambush me I can use the terrain to my advantage. It's probably going to sound dumb as hell, but basically the same kind of well-rounded experience as something like the Arkham games or Tomb Raider or something but you just happen to be in a spaceship. Explore/sneak/fight, find collectibles or upgrades, mild RPG elements instead of insanely meticulous and granular ship customization. Or to say it in a different, snarky way the absolute complete opposite of Elite Dangerous.
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it's straight up not what you're looking for, but i'd stick it on your wishlist for a steam sale someplace: ace combat 7 is like starfox with a bit of a progression mechanic over a campaign and it's something that really hit me good and you might like it edit: sorry, i posted that weird, as someone who didn't like mission based campaign dogfighters up until that point, ace combat 7 hit me just right, is where that's coming from. but yeah, wait for a deep steam sale before you give it a shot Cowcaster fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Jan 12, 2023 |
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