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jesus WEP posted:it took me a while to get over my own vanity and enjoy things im bad at but it’s a good place to be in zen mind, beginner's mind 
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lmao
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Jan 11, 2023 23:57
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post hole digger posted:hell same
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Jan 11, 2023 23:58
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jesus WEP posted:it took me a while to get over my own vanity and enjoy things im bad at but it’s a good place to be in well said post hole digger posted:zen mind, beginner's mind that one is good, i also like the four agreements, particularly the one about having a strong sense of self and not taking things personally
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Jan 12, 2023 00:00
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fart
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Jan 12, 2023 00:00
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mystes posted:Ah here: thank you!
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Jan 12, 2023 00:01
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Had to actually concentrate and puzzle out a difficult problem the whole work day, feels good I gotta say
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Jan 12, 2023 00:05
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i love when i get to do that, and am afforded the time to actually do it. best part of the job imo
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Jan 12, 2023 00:08
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my nose started bleeding from sneezing i guess and it got all over my shirt  it (was) a white shirt
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Jan 12, 2023 00:11
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just tell people you went to a gwar concert
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Jan 12, 2023 00:15
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Beeftweeter posted:my nose started bleeding from sneezing i guess and it got all over my shirt hydrogen peroxide should take that right out
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Jan 12, 2023 00:15
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post hole digger posted:hell same
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Jan 12, 2023 00:15
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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:hydrogen peroxide should take that right out lol i'll have to get my wife to pick some up
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Jan 12, 2023 00:20
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Beeftweeter posted:lol i'll have to get my wife to pick some up did you break your legs too?
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Jan 12, 2023 00:21
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cls: got my car detailed today, yay. noticed someone dented it after i drove it down there. boo.
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Jan 12, 2023 00:47
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Roosevelt posted:did you break your legs too? nah i hadn't showered in 3 days lol fixed that though
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Jan 12, 2023 01:00
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lord fifth posted:if you said this to cs students at my school youd be bombarded with bad reviews. mfs hate understanding how computers work i teach an introductory programming class and it's all c++ (technically it's arduino but the arduino "language" is just a header file full of macros) i am generally a strong believer that anyone can learn anything given enough time and effort. brains are incredibly plastic and there is no such thing as someone who just "can't do math" or something. disabilities like dyslexia or dyscalculia exist, of course, but there are still examples of people who put in a herculean effort and are able to overcome them to astonishing extents. but my programming class really puzzles me. some people understand all the concepts instantly and run way ahead of the class, and only ever need my help when they run into quirks and edge cases. others will still be struggling with week 2 stuff at the end of the course. i am still not sure what makes such an enormous difference; it's by far the largest spread of outcomes in any course i've taught. i refuse to believe that some people just can't do it. my guess right now is that the talented ones are just people who were already curious about math and logic and patterns, and as they explored their interests they were inadvertently teaching themselves the foundations of programming, while other people genuinely have zero background.
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Jan 12, 2023 01:00
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I think the way of thinking just comes more naturally to some people. I've always found programming to be relatively intuitive to pick up, to where I have a lot of difficulty explaining concepts sometimes because I know how thing works but putting thing into words isn't even something I consciously think of when I think of how to do thing.
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Jan 12, 2023 01:07
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some people form the right mental models right away, some need help forming them, some never form good ones at all
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Jan 12, 2023 01:08
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The biggest skill necessary to program is to be able to get mad at the computer and not leave immediately
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if you find yourself muttering "I hate computers" to yourself but youre still typing away you're on the right track
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Jan 12, 2023 01:12
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jesus WEP posted:it took me a while to get over my own vanity and enjoy things im bad at but it’s a good place to be in it's so stupid and nonsensical, and I tell myself so when frustration peaks, but nevertheless 
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Jan 12, 2023 01:13
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idk whether that being another thing to blame in part on being autistic makes that better or worse lol
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Jan 12, 2023 01:16
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probably my biggest struggle was getting away from the idea that there's a right way and a wrong way, when actually there is just the ways that works for you and the ways that do not.
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Jan 12, 2023 01:17
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Sagebrush posted:i teach an introductory programming class and it's all c++ i was a teaching assistant for a data structures class taught in c++. the problem with that class was that the students had no c++ exposure (they knew java), so they were trying to learn the data structures at the same time they were trying to learn c++. this just didn't work very well. i spent a lot of time hanging out in the computer lab helping them with segfaults
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Jan 12, 2023 01:19
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The real fun of a hobby is getting pretty good at it eventually and just casually accomplishing things
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Jan 12, 2023 01:27
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I do treat posting like a hobby. I don't aim to be good or accomplished in my hobbies, I aim to do dumb things to figure out if they work. Sometimes they do! Most of the time they do not. C'est la vie.
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Jan 12, 2023 01:34
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Sagebrush posted:i teach an introductory programming class and it's all c++ i do not program the computer, op
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Jan 12, 2023 01:46
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Beeftweeter posted:lol i'll have to get my wife to pick some up 
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lol
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Lmao
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now that's a good wife
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Cat Face Joe posted:i do not program the computer, op livin the dream
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rotor posted:livin the dream
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Jan 12, 2023 01:54
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cjs: love to listen to all my teammates talk about how they didn't complete their yearly development objectives last year, nbd, while i pretend i'm not on the precipice of getting fired because of being late on a standard document that my very upset manager still hasn't published two months later
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Jan 12, 2023 01:57
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Sagebrush posted:but my programming class really puzzles me. some people understand all the concepts instantly and run way ahead of the class, and only ever need my help when they run into quirks and edge cases. others will still be struggling with week 2 stuff at the end of the course. i am still not sure what makes such an enormous difference; it's by far the largest spread of outcomes in any course i've taught. i refuse to believe that some people just can't do it. my guess right now is that the talented ones are just people who were already curious about math and logic and patterns, and as they explored their interests they were inadvertently teaching themselves the foundations of programming, while other people genuinely have zero background. i know a lot of people who think of programming as a goal in itself and not a way to write down an idea and i think this explains some of it. these are very smart students with good backgrounds, too; they just care a lot more about the traits immediately visible to an employer than what might make them the best cs student. the popularity of leetcode doesnt help this imo, it seems to encourage memorizing patterns instead of getting real understanding
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if you're gonna pay $$$ to study computer science at a university, you might as well try to learn some computer science while you're there. you have the rest of your life to cram leetcode for job interviews
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DELETE CASCADE posted:i was a teaching assistant for a data structures class taught in c++. the problem with that class was that the students had no c++ exposure (they knew java), so they were trying to learn the data structures at the same time they were trying to learn c++. this just didn't work very well. i spent a lot of time hanging out in the computer lab helping them with segfaults idk, forcing a java developer to think/care about memory usage is kind of funny https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSmKiws-4NU
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Jan 12, 2023 02:18
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i took an “ introduction to programming “ course and it was java. the professor said when he started teaching they taught c++ but too many people were failing. when they changed to java people’s grades got a lot better.
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i learned c++ in high school before that it was vb 5/6 and a ton of people failed out afterwards lol
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