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fart simpson posted:any examples? The main things I remember are just ideas about NL that they walk around with and make me go "wait, what?", like: The government takes care of you. (lol) Children don't have constant pressure of competition. (less than China sure but also lol) Trying to remember specific propaganda stuff they mentioned. Only one I have off the top right now is "the West is anti-China, but people here have always been so nice to me and I'm Chinese so this is proven false".
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Jan 11, 2023 16:08
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AnimeIsTrash posted:they should be killled in my humble opinion It seems rather stupid to kill off the people you just spent 3 decades educating and getting to the cutting edge of their fields and wish to use to drive innovation in China and transform the economy away from being cheap labour imo.
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Jan 11, 2023 16:09
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gradenko_2000 posted:stephenthinkpad thank you btw for the Taiwan election post - I was able to engage with some people from a position of not-complete-ignorance when somebody makes an effort to teach we all learn something, and may thank God it wasn't me who wrote the post
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Jan 11, 2023 16:10
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someone tried to kill the chinese delegation in kabul, afghnistan https://twitter.com/AmuTelevision/status/1613139690290544640
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Jan 11, 2023 16:14
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anybody wanna put money down on turkish spooks being behind this?
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Jan 11, 2023 16:16
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Orange Devil posted:It seems rather stupid to kill off the people you just spent 3 decades educating and getting to the cutting edge of their fields and wish to use to drive innovation in China and transform the economy away from being cheap labour imo. I was only joking. Helen Yaffe talks a bit about how Cuba approaches the issue of people who have fallen off the revolution in her We Are Cuba book. I'm running some errands right now, and will will post the exerts when I get back to my computer.
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Jan 11, 2023 16:18
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gradenko_2000 posted:stephenthinkpad thank you btw for the Taiwan election post - I was able to engage with some people from a position of not-complete-ignorance I am glad to make some positive contribution to the world (during my work hour)(behind a vpn). Let's hope the common voters of Taiwan realize how much dangerous uncharted water Tsai has steered the Taiwan ship into and make a effort to push back on DPP's foreign policy of completely betting on the US side. And thus making the election next spring more interesting.
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Jan 11, 2023 16:25
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Orange Devil posted:Major worry for China's approach of building communism through using capital to unleash productive forces though. From my experience with young Chinese (<35 years old, doing PhDs abroad) they are both rather liberal in their outlook and very naive and ignorant about the results produced by liberalism... There was that information about the size and popularity of Marxist studies programs at Chinese universities a while back in the thread. That by definition isn't reaching study abroad types but it's gotta be doing something to keep young thinkers on track in China.
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Jan 11, 2023 17:44
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R. Mute posted:very bad
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Jan 11, 2023 18:37
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Orange Devil posted:Major worry for China's approach of building communism through using capital to unleash productive forces though. From my experience with young Chinese (<35 years old, doing PhDs abroad) they are both rather liberal in their outlook and very naive and ignorant about the results produced by liberalism. They all had major support and respect for the protests against zero covid back in China, and this was only very partially due to their own benefitting of removing travel restrictions. Most of them plan to go back to China and live their lives there after they finish their studies but see the people protesting as "risking their lives to make China better". about to go to bed but there's imo there's some aspect of post-modern perspective about this that might be useful. i think baudrillard lays out how perception skews reality until it is superseded by it. i only have a half-baked conception of it tho
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Jan 11, 2023 19:09
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https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/1613183847126171652?s=20 I want to suck a vaccine
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Jan 11, 2023 19:48
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DiscountDildos posted:https://twitter.com/RealSexyCyborg/status/1613183847126171652?s=20 They just copied (typical) this from Elon musk in glass onion
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Jan 11, 2023 20:21
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SuperKlaus posted:There was that information about the size and popularity of Marxist studies programs at Chinese universities a while back in the thread. That by definition isn't reaching study abroad types but it's gotta be doing something to keep young thinkers on track in China.
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Jan 11, 2023 20:54
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And tbh whenever I read translated Chinese government texts my eyes kinda glaze over. The language is very particular and to me at least very annoying. Imo CPC should do more basic explaining on why they take the actions they have taken. Even better if up front about when poo poo goes wrong what was intentional and a bad idea in hindsight and what was not intentional. At the same time, not like I'm a propaganda expert, so maybe I'm just flat wrong here. Again from those Chinese I speak though, they aren't in my estimation hostie to their government, but they certainly don't understand it.
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Jan 11, 2023 21:03
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Orange Devil posted:Again from those Chinese I speak though, they aren't in my estimation hostie to their government, but they certainly don't understand it. this isn't very insightful, but im in a posting mood.
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Jan 11, 2023 21:16
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R. Mute posted:that's only a small subsection of society, though. enough to form a new cadre of marxists, but is that enough? is that anything like a vanguard?
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Jan 11, 2023 21:59
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you don't want to have just a vanguard, especially post-revolution
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Jan 11, 2023 22:17
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Have these Chinese you’re talking to ever been outside a coastal city?
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Jan 11, 2023 22:45
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Some of them are from Shanxi, others somewhere in the south I forget where exactly.
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Jan 11, 2023 23:32
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I was more talking coastal cities in the west than in China. I can see how you might think neoliberalism is great if your experience is living in SF or London or Berlin as a skilled professional. Much less so if you’re talking about West Virginia or the Bible Belt. Especially comparing the status of these places over time.
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Jan 11, 2023 23:43
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unwantedplatypus posted:I was more talking coastal cities in the west than in China. I can see how you might think neoliberalism is great if your experience is living in SF or London or Berlin as a skilled professional. Much less so if you’re talking about West Virginia or the Bible Belt. Especially comparing the status of these places over time. parts of SF and London are as bad as poo poo you'll see in West Virginia, you have to be extremely bubblepilled to live in SF especially and think the government - city, state, or federal - is taking care of its citizens
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Jan 12, 2023 00:28
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indigi posted:parts of SF and London are as bad as poo poo you'll see in West Virginia, you have to be extremely bubblepilled to live in SF especially and think the government - city, state, or federal - is taking care of its citizens You can see poverty almost everywhere now, it's completely impossible to miss. There was a time where if you were a completely u know what you could ignore it and not feel bad.
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Jan 12, 2023 00:41
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I have coworkers who live in the Seattle exurbs and they constantly complain about homelessness too.
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Jan 12, 2023 00:42
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They’re studying in NL, generally do a lot of traveling though but just touristy stuff I think.
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Jan 12, 2023 00:43
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Where is “NL”
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Jan 12, 2023 00:56
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unwantedplatypus posted:Where is “NL” New Lealand
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Jan 12, 2023 01:01
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New Lork
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Jan 12, 2023 01:14
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nether lands
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Jan 12, 2023 01:19
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lobster shirt posted:nether lands no that can't be right, its one word
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Jan 12, 2023 01:35
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North lapland
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Jan 12, 2023 03:55
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unwantedplatypus posted:I was more talking coastal cities in the west than in China. I can see how you might think neoliberalism is great if your experience is living in SF or London or Berlin as a skilled professional. Much less so if you’re talking about West Virginia or the Bible Belt. Especially comparing the status of these places over time. Careful what you wish for! My family friend who moved to the US from China first became a reactionary neolib, but then became a HOA leading mega racist who moved back to China because of Those People. So I guess she imported the grievances of white suburbanites / rural car dealership owners.
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Jan 12, 2023 04:05
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Beautiful, the movement of history in action
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Jan 12, 2023 04:48
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unwantedplatypus posted:Where is “NL” north and east of quebec
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Jan 12, 2023 05:26
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Get ready for a clash of intellectual titans https://twitter.com/DrewPavlou/status/1612676783236845569?s=20&t=z_sxmklrKs2L_lEWNlHnNQ
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Jan 12, 2023 05:58
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remember when people in cspam thought haz was cool lol
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Jan 12, 2023 06:10
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ben-savage-rear end beard
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Jan 12, 2023 06:17
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https://twitter.com/DrewPavlou/status/1613362484576153602 lmao
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Jan 12, 2023 06:19
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that's me, not xi jinping
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Jan 12, 2023 06:22
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indigi posted:remember when people in cspam thought haz was cool lol he has some funny clips
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Jan 12, 2023 06:54
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thinking about the haz mongol clip https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYWIyG3hUlQ
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