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Mr. Grapes! posted:Luthien being a Jedi would be such a disappointment. It just makes the galaxy feel so small, that everywhere you loving turn is yet another guy who dodged Order 66 for some reason. You're not the only one. I grew up with alot of ancillary star wars stuff like videogames and novels, and to me Star Wars was more space adventures, WW2 spaceship dogfighting, alien worldbuilding and David vs Goliath good guys vs evil empire stuff. The Jedi were a cool mystery, and stood out in my mind for their mysticism rather than their warrior qualities. The prequels and the ancillary material around them doubled down on the idea they were super hero warrior factions, and each property got more ridiculous at how they were going to out 'cool' the last lightsaber gimmick with some new twist on it. This really ended up cementing the idea that Jedi ARE Star Wars, and everything has to revolve around them. Even Rogue One, a film that was supposed to be different, ended having a warrior blind monk guy who uses the Force, like they had to hit that bingo card or else it wouldn't be Star Wars enough.
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No Mods No Masters posted:The show's thesis is basically that you don't have to be a jedi for your life to matter in star wars. It owns quite a bit that people can't accept this even to the extent of hallucinating secret jedi Going frame by frame when a laser is fired to see if it might actually be a lightsaber is something I was not expecting
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Bongo Bill posted:Luthen hobnobs with senators in the heart of Coruscant, and his disguise does not include a hood or closed helmet, only a wig. He can't be a Jedi; he'd have been recognized. Not all force users were Jedi  I don't care either way tbh. I just hope he goes out like a badass.
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Hes actually the first escaped Palpatine clone, effectively making him Rey's uncle All roads lead to episode IX
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Is Andor the first Star Wars show/movie to not have a lightsaber sound effect at any point? Even Solo had Maul turn his saber on and off for no reason right before his zoom with what's her name ended lol
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They haven't actually released any info on what plans might be in the works for moving forward with the story post-RoS have they? They have all of this content from the past several years that plays around in the past, I just wonder if they've even put any plans in motion yet about how they're going to push forward with the story instead of constantly looking back.
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Basebf555 posted:They haven't actually released any info on what plans might be in the works for moving forward with the story post-RoS have they? They have all of this content from the past several years that plays around in the past, I just wonder if they've even put any plans in motion yet about how they're going to push forward with the story instead of constantly looking back. I seriously doubt it. I think they're going to continue running Star Wars in a purely reactionary way. Like eventually Disney+ subscriptions or overall viewer numbers for Star Wars tv shows may go down more than they want. About a year after that on May 4th or whatever they'll drop the promo image that's just a starfield with a big angled "EPISODE X" on it regardless of what they have planned or not. lmao or they give Rian Johnson a call Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Jan 11, 2023 |
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Obi-Wan lost viewers with every episode and Andor gained them, so that's heartening.
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At this point you can't really tell if they're doing the right thing (planning, experimenting to see what people want, building a roster of proven creatives for future projects) or just sort of randomly doing things like a dog. But you do wonder what will signal to them that "star wars fatigue" has abated and it's time to put the movie hose at full blast again
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Neo Rasa posted:Is Andor the first Star Wars show/movie to not have a lightsaber sound effect at any point? Even Solo had Maul turn his saber on and off for no reason right before his zoom with what's her name ended lol Ewok movies, right?
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I have no problem with Luthen being a jedi, depending on how they develop that He would be a fallen jedi that can no longer be considered light side, but is not dark side either, so going beyond the simplistic "light vs dark" dualism I matches his character being a very effective guerrilla leader/agent while being a cruel, ruthless rear end in a top hat. "forced to use the means of the enemy" and all that
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I get there are lots of people who don't engage in inside baseball, but if you've ever heard tony gilroy talk about star wars I think you can be pretty confident he's not going to use andor to explore what it means to be a grey jedi
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This is a pointless conversation since he obviously isn't one, but also, there is no need for a word for a Force user who's an effective agent but also a cruel, ruthless rear end in a top hat, because that describes both Sith and Jedi.
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Neo Rasa posted:
I can see them considering this, controversy creates buzz. The real question would be if Johnson is bored of pumping out Knives Out sequels by then
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I really hope we get a proper bounty-hunting series because Mando has gone miles from that.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I really hope we get a proper bounty-hunting series because Mando has gone miles from that. They're probably not going to do a third series about a Bounty Hunter unfortunately.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I really hope we get a proper bounty-hunting series because Mando has gone miles from that. There's the Bounty Hunters comic series, set between ESB and RotJ, which gets into the various clans and crime families and bounty hunters in-fighting over everything
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It's interesting that nintendo called samus aran a bounty hunter presumably because they were ripping off boba fett, then later learned what a bounty hunter was and wanted the character to have no association with any of that. Then that process repeated with the mandalorian, then it finally repeated with actual boba fett himself
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No Mods No Masters posted:It's interesting that nintendo called samus aran a bounty hunter presumably because they were ripping off boba fett, then later learned what a bounty hunter was and wanted the character to have no association with any of that. Then that process repeated with the mandalorian, then it finally repeated with actual boba fett himself Except that those last two things aren't even close to being true.
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No Mods No Masters posted:It's interesting that nintendo called samus aran a bounty hunter presumably because they were ripping off boba fett, then later learned what a bounty hunter was and wanted the character to have no association with any of that. Then that process repeated with the mandalorian, then it finally repeated with actual boba fett himself I don't think there's ever been any misunderstanding about what Jango and Boba were, they were amoral bounty hunters who did dirty jobs and served bad masters and it ultimately got both of them killed or nearly killed once it brought them into conflict with Jedi. Cad Bane even brings it up, "Boba Fett is a killer who worked for the Empire" - with the implication being "so why are any of you assholes even following him?" And then he gets ventilated by a gaffi stick, proving that melee weapons are the bane of bounty hunters.
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I'm not denying that being a bounty hunter was a starting point for the characters, but it just seems like being protagonists of nominally broadly aimed disney+ space adventures, being a bounty hunter felt icky and their arc had to be becoming general space adventurers and/or whatever the gently caress boba in booka was supposed to be. I can't argue the point very strongly, I haven't watched the shows, just from reputation and feeling
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Doesn't Mando do some bounty hunting in his Boba Fett episodes? It gets pretty violent.
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stev posted:Doesn't Mando do some bounty hunting in his Boba Fett episodes? It gets pretty violent. Yes, which is why the point is weird as poo poo, because it was juxtaposed with Boba Fett goal of becoming a community leader.
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They definitely tried to turn Boba into some kind of honorable space warrior who says no to drugs and works as a de facto town sheriff. Even Mando does more jobs as a kind of one man A-Team than bounty collection. He takes like two bounties in the first episode and one during BoBF.
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galagazombie posted:They definitely tried to turn Boba into some kind of honorable space warrior who says no to drugs and works as a de facto town sheriff. Even Mando does more jobs as a kind of one man A-Team than bounty collection. He takes like two bounties in the first episode and one during BoBF. You know, I just realized that the "true bounty hunter" show that I was envisioning was more like the A-Team, honestly. Mando has become weighted down under the Celebrity Guest Star Appearance style of showmaking and I hope the upcoming season breaks away from it.
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galagazombie posted:They definitely tried to turn Boba into some kind of honorable space warrior who says no to drugs and works as a de facto town sheriff. Even Mando does more jobs as a kind of one man A-Team than bounty collection. He takes like two bounties in the first episode and one during BoBF. And Mando as you'll notice was (and is) a hardass "I can take you in warm... or cold" cold blooded killer who warms up in the presence of baby yoda, you'll notice he is at his most bounty hunting-est when grogu is absent, and when grogu is there he takes a larger variety of jobs, such as protecting the village or transporting the frog lady and her eggs that grogu keeps eating.
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I'll shut up about a show I basically only know a vague plot summary of after this, but I would have imagined the mandalorian is hunting bounties in booka as a sign of his backsliding into his old bad habits without his babby around. With babby restored he can resume his journey to being a boring goodguy lol efb
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Darth TNT posted:Lego StarWars Skywalker Saga is delightful. Especially after that recent viewing. Mustache twirling Palpatine is wonderful The writers had so much fun . I cracked up pretty hard at obiwan setting up a stepladder than shouting he had the higher ground
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No Mods No Masters posted:I'll shut up about a show I basically only know a vague plot summary of after this, but I would have imagined the mandalorian is hunting bounties in booka as a sign of his backsliding into his old bad habits without his babby around. With babby restored he can resume his journey to being a boring goodguy This, it's why I was a little letdown when he got the new ship that's custom made to hold one pilot and one Grogu. Season 2 already had the holding back on him just cold murking people with his rifle and stuff. His Boba episode ruled because it had violent bounty hunting among other good stuff. I loved season 2 of Mando overall though. I hope they don't take that completely away from Mando like they how bizarrely passive Boba is in his show. But now we have the Bo Katan darksaber stuff happening so will he even have time to hunt a bounty? Regarding Mando being a one-man A-Team, I was so hype when season 1 had Carl Weathers/etc. all working together Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jan 12, 2023 |
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teagone posted:George Lucas' soul Bold of you to assume he didn't sell it already
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Men would rather hunt bounties than go to space therapy
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